Aaron Brady Guilty as charged

Truthvader

touts wrote: »

And here we go. The shinner bots starting the "punishment tweeting" against the Gardai

Yep already recognise some of the Sinn Fein fanboys arriving here with their vague questioning of the verdict. Obviously not as "safe" as the verdicts handed down to all the young men found in ditches with bags over their heads back in the day.

I would let them at it as it only reveals who and what they really are for anyone taken in by the PR spin they distribute

event

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

So i'm a faceless clown because i'd like to see or hear some evidence.
I thought personal abuse wasn't allowed on this site.
You've waited 7 years for this, really lol

If you want to see or hear evidence. GO LOOK IT UP. There's this wonderful thing called google, you can find all about it there. The majority of the irish news sites reported back daily on it.

Im sure the mods will deal with anything I have said

Yep. 7 years. Here is the original thread the night he was killed and here are some of my posts in it

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=82890257&postcount=174

So yes, I have waited 7 years for this

touts

Truthvader wrote: »

Always suspected that there would be a sticky trail leading back to the good republicans which would lead to the usual "unauthorised" wordplay or "its not us its the dissidents" plus the usual condemnation from you know who. Be interested to see if anything more emerges though I expect he will be encouraged not to open his little rat mouth

Based on rumours there will be a few interesting stories to come about links between him and some "good Republicans". That's why the Shinner Bots have been deployed to start questioning his conviction already.

mikekerry

Deleted User wrote: »

Are we to take it then,there is no physical evidence.....hes prob guilty,dunno nor care really,just think actual physical evidence/surrvelience should be necessary

I think it was mainly circumstantial but there was cctv of him and others staking out the credit union a couple of times that week.
As well as that some confessions he made to others were brought up as well as the the string of lies he kept on telling it was enough to convict him.

ToddDameron

Does voting Sinn Fein automatically mean you support Garda killers now?

Damien360

Damien360 wrote: »

Agree with this. Surely he has a grounds for appeal and all the way to Supreme Court at that. No evidence whatsoever. He’s a scumbag and deserves to be taken off the streets but surely evidence is required for murder.

Thats it exactly......its same as the right wing lads explaining away killing george flyold coz he did drugs


Theres no sense to it

ThewhiteJesus

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Just what i've heard from someone that would know that's all i can say.
That's why i have to repeatedly ask what evidence makes people so sure he's guilty, all i'm getting is abuse, or end of story !
I have no hidden agendas i just like to know the actual truth.

Have you brought this information that “someone in the know” told you to the attention of the Garda ?

Hangdogroad

BPKS wrote: »

His mates who killed Jerry McCabe didn't serve 40 years anyway

They got off with manslaughter even though it was a clear case of capitol murder.

touts

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

a shinner bot !!
I have never voted sinn fein in my life, and never will.

Of course you haven't. You need to be a real person not a Bot to actually vote.

Hangdogroad

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

well you'd imagine finger prints on a gun, or someone actually seeing him shoot the thing would be enough to satisfy everyone.
A drunken bravado chat in a pub, and a few disgruntled guards hearsay should not be enough imo and will be challenged.

Do you have some connection with this chap?

StackSteevens

Deleted User wrote: »

He was found guilty by a jury of his peers in the Central Criminal Court.

I suspect that the members of the jury that found him guilty would take grave exception to being considered to be "his peers"!

Truthvader

ToddDameron wrote: »

Does voting Sinn Fein automatically mean you support Garda killers now?

yes IMO

Hodors Appletart

ToddDameron wrote: »

Does voting Sinn Fein automatically mean you support Garda killers now?

It means you support a party that is happy to turn a blind eye to it, at worst

mikekerry

It's as plain as day he did it anyone with an ounce of sense wouldn't be questioning this verdict

CrankyHaus

Deleted User wrote: »

Thats it exactly......its same as the right wing lads explaining away killing george flyold coz he did drugs


Theres no sense to it

This is very dishonest.


George Floyd was summarily detained and kneeled on by Police until he died.



Aaron Brady fled the country shortly after murdering a Garda in the course of an armed robbery, boasted about it for years in the states, was arrested and deported from the US, given a full and fair trial here in one of the most accused-friendly criminal justice systems in the world, advanced a defence that admitted he was a lying criminal, and was after a long process designed to avoid wrongful convictions found guilty by a jury.

Maybe the prosecution was flawed. But until someone advances an argument better than "someone told me it wasn't him" or "the gang managed to dispose of the physical evidence so you're not allowed to find any of them guilty" then there is no reason to assume that it was flawed.

There is no comparison.

Hodors Appletart

Deleted User wrote: »

While this is some limited evidence....just think confession/eye witnesses are unreliable and think physical evìdence should be needed personally



Everyone,no matter how bad their character should be entitled to due process.....this conviction to me is unsafe to put someone away for 40 years

have you started your campaign yet or are you just harping on this single case as unsafe and maybe one other?

disingenuous to the last

Truthvader

touts wrote: »

Based on rumours there will be a few interesting stories to come about links between him and some "good Republicans". That's why the Shinner Bots have been deployed to start questioning his conviction already.

Would be very interested if that were the case. I cant imagine you could rob the local credit union on the border without permission or approval but have not heard anything yet

BailMeOut

Short read but a good summary. I wonder did someone tip US Homeland security of his whereabouts or was this just bad luck on his part and how he ended up back in Ireland?

Aaron Brady: The low-level criminal who grew to wear murder of Adrian Donohoe like a badge of honour

White lighting

Unknownability wrote: »

Have you a link to the father part please?

No link just a close relation who was in the bar at the time and witnessed it.

Truthvader

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

It means you support a party that is happy to turn a blind eye to it, at worst

Actually they wouldn't agree to the "peace process" unless McCabe's killers were released

White lighting

BailMeOut wrote: »

Short read but a good summary. I wonder did someone tip US Homeland security of his whereabouts or was this just bad luck on his part and how he ended up back in Ireland?

Aaron Brady: The low-level criminal who grew to wear murder of Adrian Donohoe like a badge of honour

Cant have been that hard the find him he kept his facebook page going and posted regular updates from New York. His facebook is still active

StackSteevens

littlevillage wrote: »

Listened to reports....

My takings....

The investigation seems like a job well done by all involved.... especially the US Homeland security.

I think there is some unease regarding the case apparently hanging on a
confession made by Brady to some aquiantances, when he was drunk

(There may be other evidence, and for operational reasons, its not being disclosed ...on-going investigations etc.)

There are still four more accomplices out there who need to be caught.

KaneToad

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Special criminal court puts another scumbag away.

Thank god its not been abolished like a certain party is calling for.

It wasn't tried in the special

stoneill

begbysback wrote: »

Is stating something while drunk in a pub drunk considered sufficient evidence for capital murder, or was there any actual evidence?

The trail, which found him guilty went on for a lot longer, and had more information than a few posts on boards. So trying to argue his innocence here and now with a few comments is a bit silly.

tayto lover

Absolutely delighted with this verdict.
I knew Adrian well through sport and he was a lovely person.
Hope this Brady lad rots in prison. He won’t like prison one bit as he won’t be the bully in there.
Brilliant news.

touts

Truthvader wrote: »

Would be very interested if that were the case. I cant imagine you could rob the local credit union on the border without permission or approval but have not heard anything yet

That's the key issue. He was integral in their Diesel Laundering operation. There is no way someone so involved in the party's main fundraising activity would do a solo run on the local CU. He would have run that up the chain of command and got permission.

KaneToad

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

well you'd imagine finger prints on a gun, or someone actually seeing him shoot the thing would be enough to satisfy everyone.
A drunken bravado chat in a pub, and a few disgruntled guards hearsay should not be enough imo and will be challenged.

The jury, who actually heard all the evidence, thought he was guilty of the murder. Albeit that it was an 11-1 verdict.

That's good enough for me.

StackSteevens

Damien360 wrote: »

Agree with this. Surely he has a grounds for appeal and all the way to Supreme Court at that. No evidence whatsoever. He’s a scumbag and deserves to be taken off the streets but surely evidence is required for murder.

Seems amazing that the judge didn't notice the lack of evidence during the lengthy trial. Should he be impeached?

tayto lover

Damien360 wrote: »

Agree with this. Surely he has a grounds for appeal and all the way to Supreme Court at that. No evidence whatsoever. He’s a scumbag and deserves to be taken off the streets but surely evidence is required for murder.

You should read the Joe O’Reilly case then. All circumstantial evidence but great evidence and convicted him of his wife, Rachel’s, murder.

No evidence whatsoever is a load of cobblers.

ChikiChiki

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

End of story, in other words you don't have a clue either, like the two people spouting the same nonsense in this thread.

Crossmaglen and McEntee can go to **** aswell.

Hodors Appletart

Deleted User wrote: »

Ive listed other cases,with unsafe convictions?


The fact you are an extrmist and view all views other than your own as disingenous is something,you will have to come to terms with

:pac:

that's funny enough fair play

Unknownability

White lighting wrote: »

No link just a close relation who was in the bar at the time and witnessed it.

Thanks, thought his father would've been removed from that.

Scoundrel

padd b1975 wrote: »

Once less piece of "republican" scum to worry about.

FAKE NEWS

Faugheen

Lads, this trial went on for months. You literally would have only heard a snippet of the evidence presented to the jury.

Glad justice was done.

Scoundrel

BPKS wrote: »

His mates who killed Jerry McCabe didn't serve 40 years anyway

They were convicted of manslaughter and hardly mate of Aaron Brady as he would have been 5 when McCabe was killed.

markodaly

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there any evidence?

This lad looking at 40 years,it would want to be competly 100% faultless........yous are essentially putting someone away for life,there cant be any shadow of doubt about imo

Hilarious tbh... he imo deserves a lethal injection but sure, I am sure he is one of those 'good' republican types so, one has dispelled all rational thoughts and beliefs that yes, he actually did murder a Garda.!!

roast222

Didn't take long for the amateur judges to come out to query the verdict based on reading a few online articles. Thankfully there is a criminal justice system which helped pore over 7 years evidence lasting 6 months in court to reach a decision that he committed capital murder beyond reasonable doubt. The people who think they know better are likely the same people who became qualified epidemiologists upon the outbreak of Covid-19.

Scoundrel

mikekerry wrote: »

It's as plain as day he did it anyone with an ounce of sense wouldn't be questioning this verdict

One juror who sat through all the evidence disagrees with you

StackSteevens

Deleted User wrote: »

You support a death penalty for someone,who no physical evidence exists,they committed the crime?

Isn't it about time that you contacted Brady's lawyers and offered to give him an alibi?

washman3

Truthvader wrote: »

Actually they wouldn't agree to the "peace process" unless McCabe's killers were released

Wrong on that one.
Det. McCabes killers/murderers were not part of the G.F. agreement.
All served out their full sentences for manslaughter.
The murder charge would not have been successful due to witnesses being 'got at' so judicial system accepted manslaughter which the killers/murderers pleaded guilty to.
Consolation was that it did end the reign of that gang in Munster.
One is currently back behind bars for a lengthy period for being a total scumbag.

StackSteevens

StackSteevens wrote: »

Isn't it about time that you contacted Brady's lawyers and offered to give him an alibi?

I dunno the man....its likely he is guilty .....just i dont think,there enough evidence exists to convict him



The fact people openly call for death penalty for people,with no physical evidence linking them to a crime is alarming tbh (i actually support the idea of death penalty in right curcumstances)

Truthvader

touts wrote: »

That's the key issue. He was integral in their Diesel Laundering operation. There is no way someone so involved in the party's main fundraising activity would do a solo run on the local CU. He would have run that up the chain of command and got permission.

To be fair to Sinn Fein/ IRA (not that they deserve it) though I suspect he was one of them you are the only person actually saying this.

Any actual connection?

paw patrol

roast222 wrote: »

Didn't take long for the amateur judges to come out to query the verdict based on reading a few online articles. Thankfully there is a criminal justice system which helped pore over 7 years evidence lasting 6 months in court to reach a decision that he committed capital murder beyond reasonable doubt. The people who think they know better are likely the same people who became qualified epidemiologists upon the outbreak of Covid-19.

hate to break it to you.

the judge didn't find him guilty. the jury did.

And they are most likely if not most definitely (as court officials wouldn't be on a jury) amateurs in the affairs of the court and murder trials.

Ashbourne hoop

BPKS wrote: »

His mates who killed Jerry McCabe didn't serve 40 years anyway

Found guilty of manslaughter, not capital murder.

mcmoustache

Do people here really believe that a case that went on for 6 months only had one piece of incriminating evidence?

Is it a sincerely held belief or is there something else at play here?

The idea that a jury convicted a guy for murder solely because of a drunken boast really stretches credibility and yet multiple people are making that exact same claim.

Where did that idea that he was convicted solely on the boast come from and why are so many people running with it?

Truthvader

washman3 wrote: »

Wrong on that one.
Det. McCabes killers/murderers were not part of the G.F. agreement.
All served out their full sentences for manslaughter.
The murder charge would not have been successful due to witnesses being 'got at' so judicial system accepted manslaughter which the killers/murderers pleaded guilty to.
Consolation was that it did end the reign of that gang in Munster.
One is currently back behind bars for a lengthy period for being a total scumbag.

Not according to Gerry Adams but Ahern disagreed. Gerry's true concerns revealed though. As ever impossible to tell with Gerry what is truth and what is lies - actually same for Ahern

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ahern-denies-mccabe-killers-release-agreed-in-1998-1.979572

Ash.J.Williams

ChikiChiki wrote: »

It would put a serious taint on probably the most successful club in the history of the GAA if true...

Yeah I heard from the club he was set up which I viewed as a lie

Truthvader

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Yeah I heard from the club he was set up which I viewed as a lie

Obviously.

Because when a Guard is murdered all the other Guards who worked with him conspire to set up any local "Republican" and are more than happy to let the person they know is guilty to go free.

For F*ck Sake

whiskeyman

Prime Time tomorrow night to have a special on it also.

ThewhiteJesus

An Ri rua wrote: »

While the WhiteJesus is going against the flow, I have reported this post as your tone is completely against how things should be conducted on Boards. More of a thug than the bogeyman Republicans you deride so much. The WhiteJesus seems contrarian, that is all, while your post is heinous.

haha very assertive of you An Ri Rua and a fair description of my personality (contrary) !