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Aaron Brady Guilty as charged

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Absolute scum, murdering a guard for the grand total of €7,000...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,500 ✭✭✭Damien360


    roast222 wrote: »
    https://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/home/565864/the-most-outrageous-contempt-of-court-witness-intimidation-and-interference-in-the-trial-of-aaron-brady.html

    Only 2 witnesses were willing to testify one of whose evidence was discarded due to video interference. Others were intimidated into not testifying and the jurors would have not have been aware of the other 5 testimonies who either failed to show up in court or who retracted their statements.

    That’s disgraceful. Is his gang a bunch of local scobies or ex-IRA or active IRA ? Ignore the SF slant. Who are they? The language used by the people trying to intimidate witnesses is the same used as our ethnic brethren when doing the same to witnesses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    I think with such a terrible crime that the need to get a conviction and the need from the public for justice can be great. I think there will be an appeal and that the appeal against the murder conviction has a good chance of being successful. I think his conviction was based purely on the evidence that he admitted his crime to someone in the states. The Guard who was present at the murder and other witnesses said that the shooter was 6 foot tall whereas Brady is much smaller, that is evidence that will be reconsidered at an appeal.
    It is a bit strange that the only one of the gang caught so far is the one that is now convicted of the murder. How did they come to link Brady to being the killer except by his own alleged bragging in the States?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    It is a bit strange that the only one of the gang caught so far is the one that is now convicted of the murder. How did they come to link Brady to being the killer except by his own alleged bragging in the States?


    https://www.thejournal.ie/adrian-donohoe-verdict-5173833-Aug2020/


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Why didn't he just kill himself in America when approached by the Secret Service??? Idiot. And also, who goes to the US to flee Irish law enforcement. Does he not know of this little thing called extradition treaties?

    Overall a dumb guy and it's good he's paying for it?

    Secret service is not relevant - it was Homeland Security.

    He was not extradited - he was sent home due to immigration status/traffic offences.

    Someone has been watching too many films :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭Raffo69


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Would be very interested if that were the case. I cant imagine you could rob the local credit union on the border without permission or approval but have not heard anything yet

    Criminals in that border area do what they want these days. Republicans would have little to no authority over them, never mind be the ones to allow them do robberies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Lock him up and throw away the key. Scumbag of the highest order.

    Maybe now Det Garda Donohoe’s family can have some closure and he can rest peacefully.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭event


    It is a bit strange that the only one of the gang caught so far is the one that is now convicted of the murder. How did they come to link Brady to being the killer except by his own alleged bragging in the States?

    Sure if it wasnt him he can tell the guards who it was that pulled the trigger. Means he will probably get off on the murder charge and only do time for robbery


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭xvril


    Honestly, I think there is enough reasonable doubt not to convict.

    The main witness says the shooter was at least 6 foot tall, Brady is 5 foot 7.

    Mr Cahill's testimony sounds very dodgy, almost like he is trying to hide something and his situation in the US is very peculiar.

    In saying that I still think it probably was him, I just think there is enough reasonable doubt to say that it might not have been.

    ___

    Key witness in Garda Donohoe trial 'might have had a lot of motives to make things up', defence say

    The “most significant” witness in the trial of the man accused of murdering Detective Garda Adrian Donohoe “might have had a lot of motives to make things up”, a barrister has told the Special Criminal Court. Michael O’Higgins SC, for Aaron Brady, told the jury of six men and seven women that the background to Daniel Cahill giving evidence was “shrouded in mystery” and that he may have been subjected to threats or inducement by Homeland Security before speaking to gardai. Mr Cahill has told the trial that he heard Mr Brady admit to killing a garda on three occasions. Mr Cahill also revealed that he spoke to gardai in New York after Homeland Security agents came to his home in circumstances where he had overstayed his 90-day visa waiver by several years.

    In his closing speech to the jury, Mr O’Higgins also criticised the garda investigation, accusing investigators of closing their eyes to evidence and burying their heads in the sand over evidence that his client was laundering diesel at the time Det Gda Donohoe was shot. Aaron Brady (29) from New Road, Crossmaglen, Co Armagh has pleaded not guilty to the capital murder of Det Gda Adrian Donohoe who was then a member of An Garda Siochana on active duty on January 25, 2013 at Lordship Credit Union, Bellurgan, Co Louth. Mr Brady has also pleaded not guilty to a charge of robbing approximately €7,000 in cash and assorted cheques on the same date and at the same location. Mr O’Higgins said he wanted to start with Mr Cahill’s evidence, which he said was the “most significant evidence in the case”.

    Counsel asked the jury to consider why, five years after Mr Cahill first claimed to have heard a confession from Aaron Brady, he “falls out of the sky with this evidence” on July 25, 2019 when he gave his first statement to gardai. Mr O’Higgins reminded the jury that Mr Cahill told them that he gave evidence because he wanted justice for Detective Garda Donohoe, his family and for the Irish justice system. Counsel said: “The first thing I want to do is stress test that claim.” Mr O’Higgins said the witness had claimed to know nothing of the murder of Det Gda Donohoe even after he heard Mr Brady make his alleged confessions. Counsel said: “Maybe it’s possible to ignore it the first time and not take it seriously, put it down to drunken rambling, but then there’s the second time. In the internet age would you be mildly curious enough to even google the event. Daniel Cahill didn’t. Didn’t do it after the third or the fourth time. Does that sound to you like someone with a burning desire to do justice?” Mr O’Higgins questioned why the witness did not tell any of his friends in the New York police, who he practiced jiu jitsu with every week, his wife or anyone else. In his testimony, Mr Cahill said that he met a number of gardai on St Patrick’s Day 2017 who were talking about Det Gda Donohoe and Aaron Brady. Mr Cahill said that he told the gardai present that Aaron Brady had admitted to him that he killed a garda. Mr O’Higgins suggested this was a lie told by Mr Cahill because he needed to explain why he hadn’t spoken about the alleged confession for so many years.

    Had the conversation taken place, counsel said, the gardai who heard it would have taken Mr Cahill’s details, passed the information up the line until it got to the investigation team and a detective would have taken the next flight to New York to speak to Mr Cahill. “None of that happened,” counsel said, “and it didn’t happen because the conversation was completely invented.” Mr O’Higgins said the catalyst for Mr Cahill coming forward was “an early morning knock on the door” from eight or nine members of Homeland Security, including an enforcement and removal officer. When this happened, counsel said, Mr Cahill “had an unusual reaction. He took himself off to the attic, naked, and stayed there for a number of hours.” Homeland Security found Mr Cahill and in their search discovered a cannabis plant and steroids. Mr O’Higgins questioned how, in those circumstances, no charges were brought against Mr Cahill in relation to the cannabis and steroids and, despite being a visa overstayer who had not filled out the paperwork to apply for status to remain, Mr Cahill was released. He reminded them of the evidence of Kerry Bretz, who said that in his 30 years as an immigration lawyer in the US he had never seen that happen.

    Mr O’Higgins suggested that Mr Cahill “might have had a lot of motives to make things up”. Counsel further asked the jury to consider whether it is normal that, during the trial, Homeland Security refused to answer questions about Mr Cahill’s immigration status or what was said to him when he was detained. Counsel reminded the jury that Special Agent Mary Ann Wade would not answer questions about Mr Cahill’s immigration status or whether he was arrested. He questioned why the Director of Public Prosecutions allowed the witness to dictate what questions she would answer and asked the jury to imagine the gardai in similar circumstances, refusing to say if Mr Cahill was arrested and refusing to answer questions about his detention. Mr O’Higgins suggested Mr Cahill was subjected to “inducement, and its Siamese twin, threat.” He added: “You have a situation which is unprecedented that witnesses will come in here and say, here’s what’s on and off the agenda.” He said such an approach rewrites the rules of a criminal trial in a “radical and unprecedented” way and would be something you might expect to see in a “tinpot dictatorship”.

    Counsel also asked the jury whether Mr Cahill was credible in his description of a walk he went on with members of the 32-County Sovereignty Committee, during which he posed for a photo unfurling a banner with Vincent Ryan, a dissident republican who was shot dead in 2018. Mr Cahill described it as a community sponsored walk. Counsel asked the jury if, having heard that story, they would buy a used car from Mr Cahill. If they wouldn’t, he asked: “How could you rely on him for something that is 1,000 times more important?” Mr O’Higgins also reminded the jury that Mr Cahill was pictured with Dean Evans 16 days after Det Gda Donohoe was shot dead and 24 days before Mr Evans murdered Peter Butterly outside the Huntsman Inn in Gormanston, Co Meath. He said the photograph was introduced by the defence not to visit Dean Evans’s bad character on Mr Cahill, but to call into question his claim that he did not follow the news and did not hear of the shooting of Det Gda Donohoe until years later. He said: “If you are hanging around that milieu of people committing those types of crimes, often in the name of Republican activities, the fact that a garda gets shot is a talking point.” Mr O’Higgins further questioned where Mr Cahill learned his court etiquette, asking: “Did it cross your mind that this was a witness who had been prepared? Who was well aware there would be questions about unfurling banners with the 32 County Sovereignty Committee.” He asked whether Mr Cahill’s statement that he was there for justice was a “prepared answer, a soundbite that would inhibit further cross examination.” He urged the jury not to rely on Mr Cahill’s evidence unless they are satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that he is telling the truth.

    Molly Staunton told the trial that she was in Mr Brady’s New York apartment where she heard him say he had “shot a cop” in Ireland and was one of the most feared men in Ireland. Mr O’Higgins reminded the jury that under cross-examination, Ms Staunton gave a different account, saying that Mr Brady was upset that he was being linked with the shooting but not that he had carried it out. When prosecution counsel Brendan Grehan showed her a video of her statement to gardai, she went back to her original position, counsel said. Mr O’Higgins described Ms Staunton as a witness “who is swinging right to left to right” and said her testimony was unreliable. Dealing with the defence case, Mr O’Higgins said there is evidence that his client was laundering diesel on the night Det Gda Donohoe was shot. Mr Brady had described his activities in text messages to his then girlfriend Jessica King and there was evidence that a trailer was brought from Dublin that day to Concession Road to be loaded with cubes of diesel waste. He also pointed to phone contacts between Mr Brady and two known fuel launderers and contacts those men had with two other known fuel launderers. He said it was a “no brainer” and a “self evident exercise” to investigate those links to fuel laundering and added: “Yet the State, for some reason or another, will not look, did not look, did not examine.”

    Counsel also questioned a prosecution suggestion that Mr Brady is a “psychopath”, asking the jury to look at his text exchanges with Ms King. A psychopath, counsel said, is someone with no feelings, no moral qualms and who will do whatever they want. In that context he said the jury should look at how he interacted with his girlfriend. He also reminded the jury that Ms King and her family met Mr Brady in the hours after the shooting and said he seemed his normal self; cheerful, cheeky, “not a bother on him”. Mr O’Higgins accepted that his client had told lies and that lies can count against an accused person. However, he also told them that people lie for different reasons and in this case, it was to hide his connection to diesel laundering.

    He asked the jury to consider that if Mr Brady was part of an organised gang who had committed this robbery, why his first false account to gardai the day after the shooting was so easily pulled apart and contradicted by one of his alleged accomplices. Counsel said an organised gang would have prepared a story before passing through the garda cordon within a short distance of where the robbery had taken place. He asked the jury to consider Mr Brady’s lies in the context of the “ambiance and atmosphere” of south Armagh and diesel laundering. He added: “It’s against that background that those lies are told.” Counsel questioned the value of CCTV footage which the prosecution says shows a suspect for the robbery traveling to Clogherhead three nights earlier to steal a Volkswagen Passat that was used as the getaway vehicle. Mr O’Higgins said the CCTV is grainy and the times don’t match up to the prosecution’s claims. He described as “flawed” the prosecution’s suggestion that the fact phones belonging to Mr Brady and two suspects in the case went dead around the time of the robbery.

    Criticising the gardai investigation, Mr O’Higgins said gardai should have investigated his client’s links to diesel laundering in 2013. They had, counsel said, evidence from Jessica King’s phone that he was laundering diesel at the time, they had records that he was in touch with known fuel launderers and they had evidence elsewhere that the yard he mentioned in his statement was being used for diesel laundering. Counsel accused gardai of closing their eyes to the evidence and putting their heads in the sand in relation to the site at Concession Road. Mr O’Higgins will continue his closing speech to the jury tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭StackSteevens


    I think with such a terrible crime that the need to get a conviction and the need from the public for justice can be great. I think there will be an appeal and that the appeal against the murder conviction has a good chance of being successful. I think his conviction was based purely on the evidence that he admitted his crime to someone in the states. The Guard who was present at the murder and other witnesses said that the shooter was 6 foot tall whereas Brady is much smaller, that is evidence that will be reconsidered at an appeal.

    Did winning the case require the prosecution to prove that it was Brady who had actually shot the garda, or just that he had been a member of the gang that had committed the murder? In other words, if the Gardai can identify and prosecute the other 4 gang members will they also be accused of capital murder, or merely of armed robbery?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    event wrote: »
    Sure if it wasnt him he can tell the guards who it was that pulled the trigger. Means he will probably get off on the murder charge and only do time for robbery

    Chances are he'll get off anyway on appeal


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭event


    Chances are he'll get off anyway on appeal

    How does a solicitor like yourself find the time to post on boards during the day. Fair play to ye


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    Irishman80 wrote: »
    Just another "Tiofaigh Ar La" piece of s--t doing scumbag s--t.

    For an Irishman, your Irish is awful.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    event wrote: »
    How does a solicitor like yourself find the time to post on boards during the day. Fair play to ye

    Same as an oracle such as yourself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52,010 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Brilliant verdict and another piece of trash out of circulation.
    The others won’t be far behind now thankfully.
    They can expect the knock on the door very soon.

    A lot of their friends and defenders can suck it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Chances are he'll get off anyway on appeal

    What an appalling vista


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    I think with such a terrible crime that the need to get a conviction and the need from the public for justice can be great. I think there will be an appeal and that the appeal against the murder conviction has a good chance of being successful. I think his conviction was based purely on the evidence that he admitted his crime to someone in the states. The Guard who was present at the murder and other witnesses said that the shooter was 6 foot tall whereas Brady is much smaller, that is evidence that will be reconsidered at an appeal.

    He probably shrunk after inhaling the fumes from all the laundered diesel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    The jury is being reassured by serving Gardai and an inspector at the time(since retired 2018)that they made the right decision/judgement...so maybe they have information that cannot be disclosed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    The jury is being reassured by serving Gardai and an inspector at the time(since retired 2018)that they made the right decision/judgement...so maybe they have information that cannot be disclosed.

    seriously what else do you expect them to say, oh you made the wrong decision,
    it's actually been a total f up and the conviction won't stand !
    That sounds like desperation to me from the gardai, why would a jury need to be consoled or reassured, if they heard all this proof that people are taking about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    seriously what else do you expect them to say, oh you made the wrong decision,
    it's actually been a total f up and the conviction won't stand !
    That sounds like desperation to me from the gardai, why would a jury need to be consoled or reassured, if they heard all this proof that people are taking about.

    Why not contact the judges in the Court of Criminal appeal? I'm sure that they will pay regards to your learned opinion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Irishman80


    For an Irishman, your Irish is awful.

    You shouldn't be surprised to learn that even after 12 years of Irish classes, most Irish people have awful Irish.

    And most Irish people don't run around the place shouting Tiocfaigh Ar La like a bunch of rotten scobes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    Edgware wrote: »
    Why not contact the judges in the Court of Criminal appeal? I'm sure that they will pay regards to your learned opinion.

    No need it'll all be done in time by the sounds of it, and i doubt it'll take seven years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,459 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Chances are he'll get off anyway on appeal

    Not really, it's a big outside bet.
    The bar is quite high for getting off on appeal.
    You can't call the evidence into question, a jury has already accepted that it was enough. So the 'unfair verdict, there was no evidence' path is close to a no-go.

    So you actually need to get a part of the evidence thrown out for technical reasons, or find a mistake that the judge made in his directions, or come up with evidence of serious malpractice on the part of the guards or state during the investigation.

    It's very much a rarity to win a murder appeal, maybe 1 or 2% I'd say.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Not really, it's a big outside bet.
    The bar is quite high for getting off on appeal.
    You can't call the evidence into question, a jury has already accepted that it was enough. So the 'unfair verdict, there was no evidence' path is close to a no-go.

    So you actually need to get a part of the evidence thrown out for technical reasons, or find a mistake that the judge made in his directions, or come up with evidence of serious malpractice on the part of the guards or state during the investigation.

    It's very much a rarity to win a murder appeal, maybe 1 or 2% I'd say.

    Ah but the posters here see it happen all the time on t.v.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52,010 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    No need it'll all be done in time by the sounds of it, and i doubt it'll take seven years.

    There’s vacancies in the laundering plant I hear. His girlfriend will be near 60 when he gets out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    There’s vacancies in the laundering plant I hear. His girlfriend will be near 60 when he gets out.
    Ah she's getting her fill already. No point being a martyr


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Did winning the case require the prosecution to prove that it was Brady who had actually shot the garda, or just that he had been a member of the gang that had committed the murder? In other words, if the Gardai can identify and prosecute the other 4 gang members will they also be accused of capital murder, or merely of armed robbery?


    I would think they could all be convicted of murder but I would bow to people more in the legal know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Edgware wrote: »
    What an appalling vista


    Well the last appalling vista took many years to resolve and all those convicted were freed in the end. It is not unreasonable to assume that like that case more evidence may emerge that may change the situation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭billyhead


    It's a pity we don't have the death penalty here. This scumbag deserves it. Do the Gardai know who the other culprits are and are they believed to be abroad?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Well the last appalling vista took many years to resolve and all those convicted were freed in the end. It is not unreasonable to assume that like that case more evidence may emerge that may change the situation.
    Theres lots of things unreasonable to assume but thatdoesnt meant it will happen.
    As it stands Brady is the fresh meat in the cellblock tonight. Lets see how he gets on with his bragging now.


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