Train derailment in Scotland

dere34 · 12-08-2020 12:25pm #1

A train has derailed near Stonehaven - a number of people have been killed and injured.

Nibs05 · 12-08-2020 12:34pm

dere34 wrote: »

A train has derailed near Stonehaven - a number of people have been killed and injured.

There are no reports on people being killed, please don’t speculate until we get official news.

dere34 · 12-08-2020 12:40pm

PA reporting at least one death.

prinzeugen · 12-08-2020 12:48pm

2 deaths are being reported. It was an Aberdeen-Glasgow train that had turned back to Aberdeen due to flooding. A bridge gave way under it.

Leading power car and all 4 coaches reported as going down an embankment. 3 crew and 6 passengers reported onboard. One crew member reported safe but in shock.

12-08-2020 1:00pm

They’ve had some serious rainfall and floods. Saw pictures this morning of cars floating down a road.

RIP

igCorcaigh · 12-08-2020 1:59pm

prinzeugen wrote: »

2 deaths are being reported. It was an Aberdeen-Glasgow train that had turned back to Aberdeen due to flooding. A bridge gave way under it.

Leading power car and all 4 coaches reported as going down an embankment. 3 crew and 6 passengers reported onboard. One crew member reported safe but in shock.

12 on board according to Sky, 6 crew and 6 passengers.

Awful

I always have a terror of being caught up in something like this.

dere34 · 12-08-2020 4:08pm

Three dead.

prinzeugen · 12-08-2020 4:24pm

dere34 wrote: »

Three dead.

Sad to hear. I think that number could rise unfortunately as one of the coaches has been totally obliterated.

Itssoeasy · 12-08-2020 4:25pm

prinzeugen wrote: »

2 deaths are being reported. It was an Aberdeen-Glasgow train that had turned back to Aberdeen due to flooding. A bridge gave way under it.

Leading power car and all 4 coaches reported as going down an embankment. 3 crew and 6 passengers reported onboard. One crew member reported safe but in shock.

The power car went down an embankment the four coaches didn't from pictures from the scene I've seen.

Itssoeasy · 12-08-2020 4:27pm

prinzeugen wrote: »

Sad to hear. I think that number could rise unfortunately as one of the coaches has been totally obliterated.

Well there was something in bits under the two coaches I could see so very possible one coache is in bits.

banie01 · 12-08-2020 4:32pm

Am I correct in the following?
This was a 6:40am Aberdeen - Glasgow service, that turned around due to flooding not all that far outside of Aberdeen?

But that the 1st reports of the crash were at @9:30am and that the story itself started breaking about 2½hrs after that?

The lag is very broad, surely someone knew they were missing a train at some point?

Apologies if my understanding of the timings is wrong, just strikes me as very odd.

RIP to those who've lost their live and speedy recovery to everyone injured.

prinzeugen · 12-08-2020 4:35pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well there was something in bits under the two coaches I could see so very possible one coache is in bits.

That is the lower 4ft of a coach (its lying upside down). Everything above that is gone.

Pictures on Sky news now. One coach is down the embankment and half burnt.

prinzeugen · 12-08-2020 4:42pm

banie01 wrote: »

Am I correct in the following?
This was a 6:40am Aberdeen - Glasgow service, that turned around due to flooding not all that far outside of Aberdeen?

But that the 1st reports of the crash were at @9:30am and that the story itself started breaking about 2½hrs after that?

The lag is very broad, surely someone knew they were missing a train at some point?

Apologies if my understanding of the timings is wrong, just strikes me as very odd.

RIP to those who've lost their live and speedy recovery to everyone injured.

The train stopped at a landslip. The driver then had to wait to get permission to head north back up the southbound track "wrong line" to a crossover. Getting that permission takes time. I believe the driver was seeking permission to use the northbound track to continue south but once the track was inspected, the train had no choice but to return north.

The train then took the correct northbound track at the crossover and shortly after derailed on a landslip that had occurred since it had passed southbound.

That section of line uses old manual signaling still and I understand a member of the traincrew had to walk/run back to the signal box to raise the alarm.

The signalman would have known a train was missing but not why/where. The driver has a radio but he was sadly most likely dead at that point.

banie01 · 12-08-2020 4:45pm

prinzeugen wrote: »

The train stopped at a landslip. The driver then had to wait to get permission to head north back up the southbound track "wrong line" to a crossover. Getting that permission takes time.

Thanks for the info, I was trying to get a sequence of events straight in my mind and you made it far clearer.

I do know from news commentary that the area seems to be a mobile phone deadspot and the topography around the crash site couldn't have helped any radio signals either.