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    #62
    Water John
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    And Trump isn't the Govn't?


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    #63
    Cheerful Spring2
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    Water John wrote: »
    And Trump isn't the Govn't?

    Trump may sit behind the Oval desk for 4 to 8 years, but it's the career bureaucrats who really run the show. Obama promised all hope and change, but the reality set in when the men in suits arrived to tell him this how we do things.

    Donald Rumsfeld for example served four presidents, they are the guys who control the decisions, and place their people in the departments who then will obey them and follow their agenda even when a new administration takes power.


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    #64
    Water John
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    Birx and Fauci are there for six presidents, they must be Very Deep State?


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    #65
    Cheerful Spring2
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    Water John wrote: »
    Birx and Fauci are there for six presidents, they must be Very Deep State?

    Fauci claims hydroxychloroquine doesn't work, but other studies dispute that. I not a scientist, but i think an oxford study is reputable here no? You make no money from a old drug that cheap and already available.

    Leading scientific researchers from the University of Oxford have said that the antiviral medication hydroxychloroquine is being ‘discarded prematurely’ and could still have benefit against COVID-19.

    The University of Oxford and the Wellcome supported Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit (MORU) are leading the COPCOV study, the only large, global clinical trial testing hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19 prevention.

    The COPCOV stud is a double-blind, randomised, placebo-controlled study aiming to enrol 40,000 healthcare workers to determine if hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can prevent COVID-19.

    The researchers maintained that previous prevention studies were too small to show conclusive evidence of whether hydroxychloroquine can work or not as a preventative medication. They also added that early use of the drug is critical, and that safety concerns surrounding hydroxychloroquine have been exaggerated.

    http://www.pharmatimes.com/news/researchers_says_hydroxychloroquine_could_still_prevent_covid-19_1346544


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    #66
    Water John
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    A cheap drug that has use is Dexamethasone. Fauci supports its use, because the science shows it does. As Joe Biden might say, 'gimme a break'


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    #67
    King Mob
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    CNN, MSBC, CBS, NBC is official media. They don't touch stories that disagree with the government narratives.

    Thats why twitter and Youtube channels and alternative new media channels had a bigger audience, because they allowed alternative viewpoints..
    Translation:
    "Real media sources don't support the silly conspiracies I believe, therefore they are part of a conspiracy."


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    #68
    Cheerful Spring2
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    Youtube i see pulled the video down another example of censorship. Doesn't matter if the arrest has nothing to do with the video, this corporation is becoming an institution of thought. Youtube appointed itself as the thought police, and you can only watch stuff they deemed is ok.


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    #69
    King Mob
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Youtube i see pulled the video down another example of censorship. Doesn't matter if the arrest has nothing to do with the video, this corporation is becoming an institution of thought. Youtube appointed itself as the thought police, and you can only watch stuff they deemed is ok.
    No Youtube pulled it down because it was bull**** from bull**** artists.

    Those same bull**** artists are free to host their own propaganda however they like. It's not being censored.

    What's happening though is they won't get the reach and ad revenue, hence their whining. Also as a bonus they get to pretend it's censorship to the gullible and use that as part of their marketing.


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    #70
    Cheerful Spring2
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    Why this is a strange case, the police who turned up at her home, didn't even know what the charges against her were in this case. They got on the phone to talk, you can see that on video, asked the person on the other side of the line what Millie got charged with. Something feels off about this event.

    She appears in court today, so hopefully know more.

    There some rumors this a family dispute over a taken cell phone. The mother filed charges against Millie and later dropped it and the family sorted out their differences? But seems someone in power has taken upon themselves to indict her by grand jury? If that turns out true, then some people in power are actively trying to discredit her personally and the work she did her?

    The charges maybe about something else also?


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    #71
    The Nal
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    She was arrested for robbery, tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice, and domestic violence.

    Yet the conspiracy money machine keeps rolling.

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    People will believe anything. Watched some of the documentary. Jesus, its abysmal.


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    #72
    Cheerful Spring2
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    We have new information coming out now and a released court file.

    The rumor is true. What strange is they have an order to the arrest her brother too for this incident, The accused is Millie, the husband and brother.

    The mother claims she dropped all charges months ago, but a secret grand jury hearing nevertheless took place in Ohio.

    The event is a mess. Either someone out to to discredit her documentary work, or this is a set up, a publicity stunt and the mother involved in it too?


    Felicia McCarron is Millie mother.
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    #73
    Ipso
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    It wouldn’t surprise me if she knew the arrest was imminent and planned the release and recording of the arrest.


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    #74
    Dohnjoe
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Youtube i see pulled the video down another example of censorship. Doesn't matter if the arrest has nothing to do with the video, this corporation is becoming an institution of thought. Youtube appointed itself as the thought police, and you can only watch stuff they deemed is ok.

    Social media platforms are taking action against disinformation and conspiracy stuff. As a conspiracy fan, you clearly don't like that, so you just invent a narrative where they are part of some 1984 conspiracy


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    #75
    Dohnjoe
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    They don't criticize the institutions of government; they criticize Trump. You need to notice the difference?

    It can be difficult to follow your imaginings. What role do the secret Nazi's play in this government?


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    #76
    Dohnjoe
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

    The event is a mess. Either someone out to to discredit her documentary work, or this is a set up, a publicity stunt and the mother involved in it too?

    Or they committed crimes


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    #77
    The Nal
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    Seems like a normal family.....

    InfoWars’ Millie Weaver, boyfriend and brother threw mother to the ground and took her cellphone, police report says


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    #78
    Dohnjoe
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    The Nal wrote: »
    Seems like a normal family.....

    InfoWars’ Millie Weaver, boyfriend and brother threw mother to the ground and took her cellphone, police report says

    Yeah but this comes from a police report and the police are part of the "deep state". And so are the investigators, the prosecutors, the judge, the jury..

    And anyway it seems "weird" so that's always enough evidence that something is a conspiracy.. by the deep state


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    #79
    ohnonotgmail
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Fauci claims hydroxychloroquine doesn't work, but other studies dispute that. I not a scientist, but i think an oxford study is reputable here no? You make no money from a old drug that cheap and already available.




    http://www.pharmatimes.com/news/researchers_says_hydroxychloroquine_could_still_prevent_covid-19_1346544

    so no evidence yet that it does actually work. why would fauci recommend something when there is no evidence that it works?


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    #80
    Cheerful Spring2
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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Or they committed crimes

    According to the information available, this event took place in April and the mother supposedly dropped the charges weeks later?

    For whatever reason, this family dispute case did not get dropped there. The prosecutors decided to continue on and have a secret indictment in July and the court issued an arrest warrant that was only carried out in August.

    The timing is fueling the conspiracy here, just days before her video was released on Youtube.


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    #81
    Cheerful Spring2
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    so no evidence yet that it does actually work. why would fauci recommend something when there is no evidence that it works?

    Fauci is referring to hospitalised patients, it's ineffective there. There still needs to be trials here to see if it can prevent it.

    Trump promoting it, of course, the anti- trumpers will now claim it doesn't do anything to stop covid 19. Scientists are not so sure, and want to do more testing and scientific tests. Let them do it and stop the nonsense.


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    #82
    Water John
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    So Cheerful Spring, do you accept that they assaulted the woman, their own mother?


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    #83
    ohnonotgmail
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Fauci is referring to hospitalised patients, it's ineffective there. There still needs to be trials here to see if it can prevent it.
    .


    that is the point. trials are needed. fauci wont promote something until it has proven efficacy. you seem to have an issue with that.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Trump promoting it, of course, the anti- trumpers will now claim it doesn't do anything to stop covid 19. Scientists are not so sure, and want to do more testing and scientific tests. Let them do it and stop the nonsense.

    trump promoted it while its efficacy was unknown. it is still unknown. it was merely a coincidence that his friends had stock in the company that produces. he also had no concern for lupus patients who cannot get the drug because it was stockpiled. you dont seem to have an issue with that. all very bizarre from you but not unexpected.


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    #84
    Dohnjoe
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    According to the information available, this event took place in April and the mother supposedly dropped the charges weeks later?

    For whatever reason, this family dispute case did not get dropped there. The prosecutors decided to continue on and have a secret indictment in July and the court issued an arrest warrant that was only carried out in August.

    The timing is fueling the conspiracy here, just days before her video was released on Youtube.

    People get arrested and indicted all the time, sometimes they have committed a crime, sometimes they haven't, the facts will speak for themselves

    Just because some conspiracy theorist has been indicted doesn't mean people need to start desperately trying to shed doubt on proceedings in order to hint it's all some conspiracy


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    #85
    Cheerful Spring2
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    Water John wrote: »
    So Cheerful Spring, do you accept that they assaulted the woman, their own mother?

    This is a post that supposedly came from the mother after her daughter got arrested. I have no clue what happened here. If this is the mother? She thinks the arrest was weird too.

    Why go after her, when the mother dropped the charges and make a big fuss online over a family dispute?

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    #86
    Cheerful Spring2
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    that is the point. trials are needed. fauci wont promote something until it has proven efficacy. you seem to have an issue with that.



    trump promoted it while its efficacy was unknown. it is still unknown. it was merely a coincidence that his friends had stock in the company that produces. he also had no concern for lupus patients who cannot get the drug because it was stockpiled. you dont seem to have an issue with that. all very bizarre from you but not unexpected.

    Fauci should wait instead of saying it doesn't work here at all. More trials are need to rule it out completely. Fauci not giving the scientists a chance to find out.

    Doctors are prescribing it to patients and claiming it helping them. We are in weird situation where theres a tug of war over this drug and nobody sure if it does work.

    Studies like this one make it all the more confusing here.
    Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows
    Treatment with hydroxychloroquine cut the death rate significantly in sick patients hospitalized with COVID-19 – and without heart-related side-effects, according to a new study published by Henry Ford Health System.

    In a large-scale retrospective analysis of 2,541 patients hospitalized between March 10 and May 2, 2020 across the system’s six hospitals, the study found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine alone died compared to 26.4% not treated with hydroxychloroquine. None of the patients had documented serious heart abnormalities; however, patients were monitored for a heart condition routinely pointed to as a reason to avoid the drug as a treatment for COVID-19.

    https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study


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    #87
    Cheerful Spring2
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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Social media platforms are taking action against disinformation and conspiracy stuff. As a conspiracy fan, you clearly don't like that, so you just invent a narrative where they are part of some 1984 conspiracy

    You see, the deep state police force is out already.. Remember the fuss about the Russians in Crimea (little green men showing up with no insignia and badges)

    This is America right here, same thing.
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    Controlling the narratives is happening on the ground and across social media platforms.


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    #88
    The Nal
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Y
    Controlling the narratives is happening on the ground and across social medis platforms.

    What narratives exactly?

    How are they controlling them?

    Who are "they"?


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    King Mob
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

    The timing is fueling the conspiracy here, just days before her video was released on Youtube.
    Yes. Which is why the "deep state"/lizard people wouldn't have gone after her then.
    If her documentary actually contained any true, damaging information, then they wouldn't want to bring attention to it.
    They could have easily stopped her from gaining the information in the first place.

    Or if that was impossible, just ignore the movie and let it pass as another one of hundreds produced by bull**** farms like Info Wars. If they did that, then no one would have even paid attention to it.

    The conspiracy theory here makes no rational sense. It's simply a marketing gimmick for the gullible.


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    #90
    Cheerful Spring2
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    The Nal wrote: »
    What narratives exactly?

    How are they controlling them?

    Who are "they"?

    Why did Facebook sign a partnership with a known think tank group in Washington? Atlantic council is basically a front for the neocon agenda. We know for a fact Facebook censorship is US intelligence controlled.


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    #91
    King Mob
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    a fact

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