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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Your an absolute legend base price thanks so much for that. Link below for anyone who wants to hear it. Starts at 35:00. Thought it would be longer but was half awake when listening to it.

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/10861880

    That was a lovely listen, thanks very much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,146 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    The stockman/ manager in skidoo that use to eat lunch in the rolenstown inn every working day, wondering is he still alive,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    The stockman/ manager in skidoo that use to eat lunch in the rolenstown inn every working day, wondering is he still alive,
    I came across Richard in the Coolquay in Feb when I dropped in for a bite of lunch. Thankfully I haven't heard any untoward news about him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    As your heading from Lees Cross and go down the hill towards the bad bend and road you turn left to go to Rolestown. Lawless's Poultry farm was on the left before the sharp bend. On the right there is, if i remember correctly a gate to a house there. I was told that Oliver Reed used to own the house. Is this true?

    The fields in the back of it had cattle in it when i was growing up but think now Keelings have an orchard in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    NcdJd wrote: »
    As your heading from Lees Cross and go down the hill towards the bad bend and road you turn left to go to Rolestown. Lawless's Poultry farm was on the left before the sharp bend. On the right there is, if i remember correctly a gate to a house there. I was told that Oliver Reed used to own the house. Is this true?

    The fields in the back of it had cattle in it when i was growing up but think now Keelings have an orchard in it.
    Rathbeale Hall is the house and I think it was Gregory Peck that owned it. Over the years it has had several owners including a Russian princess. Joe and Mary Keeling are the current owners.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Base price wrote: »
    Rathbeale Hall is the house and I think it was Gregory Peck that owned it. Over the years it has had several owners including a Russian princess. Joe and Mary Keeling are the current owners.

    Thanks Base Price. Myself and friend used to cycle to Rolestown reservoir to fish for trout ( Broadmeadows Anglers club) when we were kids and told me that but maybe it's my memory that is playing tricks on me. At the turn off, again memory is a bit cloudy. There was a field of strawberries, not sure if it was when you were heading to the 12 apostles or the other way down towards entrance of the reservoir.

    If i ever met the owners of that strawberry field I'd hand them a 50 euro note for all the strawberries I robbed out of it as a young fella. Was before everyone started growing the tasteless ones in the glasshouses / polytunnels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Thanks Base Price. Myself and friend used to cycle to Rolestown reservoir to fish for trout ( Broadmeadows Anglers club) when we were kids and told me that but maybe it's my memory that is playing tricks on me. At the turn off, again memory is a bit cloudy. There was a field of strawberries, not sure if it was when you were heading to the 12 apostles or the other way down towards entrance of the reservoir.

    If i ever met the owners of that strawberry field I'd hand them a 50 euro note for all the strawberries I robbed out of it as a young fella. Was before everyone started growing the tasteless ones in the glasshouses / polytunnels.
    I can't remember where the strawberries grew but I do remember myself (youngest) and my two brothers getting chased out of the reservoir. I was only 8 or 9 and couldn't keep up with them.
    Here is a bit about Rathbeale Hall. My mil told me that the cattle dealer kept pigs in the basement :eek:
    http://homepage.eircom.net/~swordsourtown/local_history/other_notable_houses/rathbeale_hall.htm
    Edit to add: My mil met Gregory Peck a few times when he was out hacking. She said he was even more handsome in real life than in the movies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Base price wrote: »
    I can't remember where the strawberries grew but I do remember myself (youngest) and my two brothers getting chased out of the reservoir. I was only 8 or 9 and couldn't keep up with them.
    Here is a bit about Rathbeale Hall. My mil told me that the cattle dealer kept pigs in the basement :eek:
    http://homepage.eircom.net/~swordsourtown/local_history/other_notable_houses/rathbeale_hall.htm
    Edit to add: My mil met Gregory Peck a few times when he was out hacking. She said he was even more handsome in real life than in the movies.

    Thank you Base Price your a hive of information I hope that I wasn't one of them who chased ye out ha. Not a member anymore.

    That chicken **** spread around the fields at the back of it I can still almost smell it when i think of the reservoir :)

    And just to add thanks for that link I clicked on the homepage and up comes swords b.n.s. That's where I went to school!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Cattlepen wrote: »
    He was a bachelor. He lived with a sister. Nice people

    Are you from south Dublin?
    My uncle lived on Cypress grove rd in templogue and farmed in Meath. It always amazed me that he lived in Dublin, had a butchers just off SCR and grew grain in Meath. If you remember across the road from Spawell golf course my brothers and my cousins loaded lorries with straw and my father baling in those fields. Tallagh was just a normal country village


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Base price wrote: »
    Listening back to the Sunday Miscellany piece reminded me of a story my late father in law told me. Many years ago when he was a young man he had to replace his work horse. This was in the days before tractors were affordable. He bought a horse from the widow of man from around the Naul who had succumbed to the drink. The horse (named Robin) was a fine strong animal but had a little quirk that my fil didn't know about for several days after buying him. One particular day he loaded that cart with cabbage and turnips to bring to the Smithfield market. He left the house a 4am as was customary at the time and traveled without incident into the city. On the return journey home later that morning when he got to the Boot Inn Robin refused to pass and would not continue home. No amount of coaxing, pulling and hitting would work. Mr. Weldon came out of the pub when he heard the commotion and laughed when he saw what was going on. He told my fil that the previous owner always stopped at the pub for a pint or two and that he would give Robin a nose bag whilst enjoying his drink. My fil never drank but from that day on he either went into the pub for a glass of orange or had a ice cream from Ms. Maxwells shop whilst Robin enjoyed his handful of oats.

    Absolutely brilliant story


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Are you from south Dublin?
    My uncle lived on Cypress grove rd in templogue and farmed in Meath. It always amazed me that he lived in Dublin, had a butchers just off SCR and grew grain in Meath. If you remember across the road from Spawell golf course my brothers and my cousins loaded lorries with straw and my father baling in those fields. Tallagh was just a normal country village

    Lad a year behind me in school in Greenhills was a farmer. His dad had a farm toward blessington if I remember right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Best thread in years


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Found this on the main page....100% not a farmer myself :-) but I grew up and am still living in among the cabbage fields of Lusk and Rush.I always think it's a well hidden secret out here, I remember a Tullamore relative (a dairy farmer) telling me in complete amazement one day, after a trip out past the airport that it was the "really country" out North of the airport, you almost wouldn't know you were in Dublin!!!I had to laugh.You wouldn't and I am quite happy with that myself - best of a few worlds.

    Weldon is a very Rush name :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Was talking to my father earlier and telling him about Gregory Peck as what base prices wrote, as usual he already knew about Mr Peck and said he had a horse that won a couple of races etc.

    I was speaking to a friend who was speaking about a woman who used to herd cattle on the long acre. The womans first name was Eileen. Father didn't remember I name I gave him but he said it was quite a regular thing around North Country Dublin. I came across this article, long read about the long acre.

    http://www.irishidentity.com/extras/wayoflife/stories/cowsidewalk.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Thank you Base Price your a hive of information I hope that I wasn't one of them who chased ye out ha. Not a member anymore.

    That chicken **** spread around the fields at the back of it I can still almost smell it when i think of the reservoir :)

    And just to add thanks for that link I clicked on the homepage and up comes swords b.n.s. That's where I went to school!
    The Johnny Byrne that owned Rathbeale in Base’s link was Hugo Byrnes father. I think the pigs could be a urban myth because Johnny wasn’t into pigs. Maybe he leat someone else do it? People weren’t really bothered about big manor type houses back then as the rates on them were punitive. Most took the roofs off them and didn’t have to pay rates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    Are you from south Dublin?
    My uncle lived on Cypress grove rd in templogue and farmed in Meath. It always amazed me that he lived in Dublin, had a butchers just off SCR and grew grain in Meath. If you remember across the road from Spawell golf course my brothers and my cousins loaded lorries with straw and my father baling in those fields. Tallagh was just a normal country village
    I was reared in Clondalkin on a farm called Nangor Castle and went to primary school in Tallaght. I don’t know who changed the name but it then became Grange Castle.We moved to kilcock in 1980. A lot of the Dublin farmers didn’t live on their farms. They lived in the villages. The butchers weren’t Larkins by any chance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    shesty wrote: »
    Found this on the main page....100% not a farmer myself :-) but I grew up and am still living in among the cabbage fields of Lusk and Rush.I always think it's a well hidden secret out here, I remember a Tullamore relative (a dairy farmer) telling me in complete amazement one day, after a trip out past the airport that it was the "really country" out North of the airport, you almost wouldn't know you were in Dublin!!!I had to laugh.You wouldn't and I am quite happy with that myself - best of a few worlds.

    Weldon is a very Rush name :-)

    And a Swords name too. When I was growing up I always found it very satisfying cutting york cabbage. You felt like you were getting somewhere as the bags would fill up quickly if the outer leaves were big. You'd have a load in no time and were easy to carry. It was a joy.

    My father used to grow rows and rows of spinach for the market. It was one of the worst jobs I ever had as you'd feel like it just went on forever. To this day I hate spinach with a vengeance. That and white turnips. Nice crop to grow but I hated harvesting them. Hands would be falling off me with the cold. The ould fella would just say keep going you'll get used to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,216 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    kk.man wrote: »
    Lár foley was some hurler and that's coming from a kilkenny man.

    I saw a few clips of him playing and when interviewed he stated he was a farmer as a young lad I couldn't understand a dub being a farmer and a hurler!

    Ohs dad played hurling for Dublin with Lar foley. He also grew veg small scale in north county Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Cattlepen wrote: »
    I was reared in Clondalkin on a farm called Nangor Castle and went to primary school in Tallaght. I don’t know who changed the name but it then became Grange Castle.We moved to kilcock in 1980. A lot of the Dublin farmers didn’t live on their farms. They lived in the villages. The butchers weren’t Larkins by any chance?

    Not Larkin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Are you from south Dublin?
    My uncle lived on Cypress grove rd in templogue and farmed in Meath. It always amazed me that he lived in Dublin, had a butchers just off SCR and grew grain in Meath. If you remember across the road from Spawell golf course my brothers and my cousins loaded lorries with straw and my father baling in those fields. Tallagh was just a normal country village

    I have Jack Keoghs book 'cattlemen' he too was raised in Dublin and they had land in meath. Great book.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    kk.man wrote: »
    I have Jack Keoghs book 'cattlemen' he too was raised in Dublin and they had land in meath. Great book.

    Good book, it was Raymond keogh, Jacks son that wrote it. Not being pernickity, just knew him. Had a fantastic farm in Mulhuddart. Lived outside Maynooth in recent years. Master of the ward union staghounds, steward for the jockey club, reared by a nanny. Passed away in the last 6 months. All round gentleman that could have a conversation with European beef barons or a polish peasant on an equal footing. RIP Raymond


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    Not Larkin

    Yea, larkins were further in around Meath st/Francis street. Do you mind me asking their name?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭Good loser


    Red Cow Farm in Palmerston was another one.

    All built on now but the name survives.


    Across the road from the Red Cow Inn I met a man in a car storage/sales yard about 12 years ago. He told me he knew the red cow that gave the field it's name. She was in a field on her own for many years and used to spend a lot of time beside the road corner. Must have been hand milked for a house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Cattlepen wrote: »
    Good book, it was Raymond keogh, Jacks son that wrote it. Not being pernickity, just knew him. Had a fantastic farm in Mulhuddart. Lived outside Maynooth in recent years. Master of the ward union staghounds, steward for the jockey club, reared by a nanny. Passed away in the last 6 months. All round gentleman that could have a conversation with European beef barons or a polish peasant on an equal footing. RIP Raymond
    I was reared on stories like dipicted in the book. I didn't know he died. It's where my love of farming stems from. RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    shesty wrote: »
    Found this on the main page....100% not a farmer myself :-) but I grew up and am still living in among the cabbage fields of Lusk and Rush.I always think it's a well hidden secret out here, I remember a Tullamore relative (a dairy farmer) telling me in complete amazement one day, after a trip out past the airport that it was the "really country" out North of the airport, you almost wouldn't know you were in Dublin!!!I had to laugh.You wouldn't and I am quite happy with that myself - best of a few worlds.

    Weldon is a very Rush name :-)

    Up round oldstown, rolestown and The Naul is as country as you can get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Where Airside retail was is in Swords. Nevinstown is the proper name. There was a man there who had glasshouses. I won't mention his name as it is a bit too close to home. Lovely man. To me he was a very progressive grower and used techniques that were only coming into irish horticulture at the time. He used to grow cucumbers, tomatoes, scallions outside and had other glasshouses rented behind the fancy house accross the road from Kinsealy school ( the one which allegedly had a tunnel under the ground from that house to Haugheys in Abbeyville )

    I remember he would be grading the tomatoes in the shed and my father would collect the Fs off him as the supermarkets didn't want them at the time. Used to sell them in bags for 50 pence. Everyone loved them. They are called cherry tomatoes now. :)

    Just to add myself and brother frequently broke out in hives due to eating them and packing at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Where Airside retail was is in Swords. Nevinstown is the proper name. There was a man there who had glasshouses. I won't mention his name as it is a bit too close to home. Lovely man. To me he was a very progressive grower and used techniques that were only coming into irish horticulture at the time. He used to grow cucumbers, tomatoes, scallions outside and had other glasshouses rented behind the fancy *house accross the road from Kinsealy school ( the one which allegedly had a tunnel under the ground from that house to Haugheys in Abbeyville )

    I remember he would be grading the tomatoes in the shed and my father would collect the Fs off him as the supermarkets didn't want them at the time. Used to sell them in bags for 50 pence. Everyone loved them. They are called cherry tomatoes now. :)

    Just to add myself and brother frequently broke out in hives due to eating them and packing at the same time.

    *Feltrim house by any chance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    My grandparents lived in Chapelizod for about ten years. Us kids were sent to a little farm up St. Laurence's Road, well Ballyfermot Road to be exact for bits and pieces, can't remember what now. It was called Violet Vale Farm. Anyone remember it? Was all open fields there then, all built on now of course. Called Laurence's Glen I think now.

    Here is something I found about Red Cow and Violet Vale.

    https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=795098.0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    gozunda wrote: »
    *Feltrim house by any chance?

    Wouldn't be feltrim house gozunda. Was the other side of abbeyville. Directly accross from kinsealy school. There's a driveway up to it. Father said a judge and editor of one of the national newspapers owned it at various times. He had celery in the glasshouses there. Beautiful place but never got to ever going up to the house. It was always straight to the glasshouses. The tunnel is apparently bricked up on both sides. No idea who put it in or what purpose it served. Was up in Abbeyville a couple of weeks ago looking around for it ha.

    Edit: Elmsworth house. Glasshouses are probably gone.
    Second edit: Video says Malahide but is in Kinsealy.

    https://youtu.be/sBF047ApKvs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    After reading the link about cows grazing the long acre it reminded me of a story my mother in law told me.

    In those days most farming wives would keep a breeding sow, rear pet lambs or sell eggs/chickens/turkeys in order to provide themselves with pin money that would be used for special occasions.

    Years ago (I'm not sure exactly when but I think it was in the late 60's/early 70's) she had a black sow that produced two litters a year. The sow had a daily routine whereupon when she was let out of the sty, she (and her piglets) would head out the yard gate, turn right and spend the day grazing the long acre before returning back to the yard. The sow was a pet and all the locals knew her.
    Sometime in the early 70's my mil received a visit from a DAFM official. He told her that the sow would have to be culled because black/red/spotted pigs were no longer allowed to be kept in Ireland. :(
    Edit to add: There was something about keeping traditional bred pigs as opposed to more commercial breeds like Landrace or Large Whites.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Base price wrote: »
    After reading the link about cows grazing the long acre it reminded me of a story my mother in law told me.

    In those days most farming wives would keep a breeding sow, rear pet lambs or sell eggs/chickens/turkeys in order to provide themselves with pin money that would be used for special occasions.

    Years ago (I'm not sure exactly when but I think it was in the late 60's/early 70's) she had a black sow that produced two litters a year. The sow had a daily routine whereupon when she was let out of the sty, she (and her piglets) would head out the yard gate, turn right and spend the day grazing the long acre before returning back to the yard. The sow was a pet and all the locals knew her.
    Sometime in the early 70's my mil received a visit from a DAFM official. He told her that the sow would have to be culled because black/red/spotted pigs were no longer allowed to be kept in Ireland. :(
    Edit to add: There was something about keeping traditional bred pigs as opposed to more commercial breeds like Landrace or Large Whites.

    That's a lovely story base price.

    My mother always kept hens. Rhode Island reds. We used to sell the eggs at our vegetable shop. My grandfather used to rub a bit of dirt on some of the eggs as he felt people would buy them quicker like that than looking like an egg you'd get in a supermarket :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    NcdJd wrote: »
    That's a lovely story base price.

    My mother always kept hens. Rhode Island reds. We used to sell the eggs at our vegetable shop. My grandfather used to rub a bit of dirt on some of the eggs as he felt people would buy them quicker like that than looking like an egg you'd get in a supermarket :)
    My mother would sometimes buy fruit/veg from a man who had a shop (grey building) near the entrance of Kettles Lane. Was that your Grandfather's?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Base price wrote: »
    My mother would sometimes buy fruit/veg from a man who had a shop (grey building) near the entrance of Kettles Lane. Was that your Grandfather's?

    No that was Callaghans base price. Ours was up in ****** **** on the way down to ******.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Anyone remember the rhubarb grower as you go by the chuck wagon heading for Blakes Cross ? Had about 2 acres of rhubarb every year. Was good stuff.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    NcdJd wrote: »
    And a Swords name too. When I was growing up I always found it very satisfying cutting york cabbage. You felt like you were getting somewhere as the bags would fill up quickly if the outer leaves were big. You'd have a load in no time and were easy to carry. It was a joy.

    My father used to grow rows and rows of spinach for the market. It was one of the worst jobs I ever had as you'd feel like it just went on forever. To this day I hate spinach with a vengeance. That and white turnips. Nice crop to grow but I hated harvesting them. Hands would be falling off me with the cold. The ould fella would just say keep going you'll get used to it.

    I was driving across Baldungan towards Loughshinny one of the days last November - bitterly cold, horizontal rain, gale force winds - saw a group out picking in one of the fields (can't remember what it was, may have been scallions or similar)...I thought it was the most miserable job out there.The only worse place would be the fields between the Rush/Skerries road and the sea, in the Winter - drenching rain, freezing wind, totally exposed to the Irish Sea, standing and picking in a field.I always feel sorry for them.Used to pick strawberries myself over towards the Old Dublin/Belfast rd....also got hives from picking and eating :-)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    shesty wrote: »
    I was driving across Baldungan towards Loughshinny one of the days last November - bitterly cold, horizontal rain, gale force winds - saw a group out picking in one of the fields (can't remember what it was, may have been scallions or similar)...I thought it was the most miserable job out there.The only worse place would be the fields between the Rush/Skerries road and the sea, in the Winter - drenching rain, freezing wind, totally exposed to the Irish Sea, standing and picking in a field.I always feel sorry for them.Used to pick strawberries myself over towards the Old Dublin/Belfast rd....also got hives from picking and eating :-)

    Tough men. There was a man that used to cycle every day from rush to cloghran and was doing it well into his 70s. Out snigging turnips and cutting cabbage , rain hail or snow, he used to drop some veg into my auntie every week. Most humble man you'd ever meet always in good form. Long gone id say now.

    I'd say you'd take or leave strawberries now after that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    There is a big house just opposite the Clayton hotel at the end of Stockhole lane, with a few old outbuildings that look like they’re in use. You can just catch a glimpse of the house as you come onto the R139 roundabout - is anyone farming or doing anything in there? Never met or heard of anyone who knows anything about the place. There’s a good bit of land around it anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,826 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    There is a big house just opposite the Clayton hotel at the end of Stockhole lane, with a few old outbuildings that look like they’re in use. You can just catch a glimpse of the house as you come onto the R139 roundabout - is anyone farming or doing anything in there? Never met or heard of anyone who knows anything about the place. There’s a good bit of land around it anyway.




    You could have bought a house on nearly 20 acres around there back 2 years ago if you were on the ball


    https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/residence-on-c-18-22-acres-7-4-ha-edendale-clonshaugh-road-cloghran-dublin/4236170


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    There is a big house just opposite the Clayton hotel at the end of Stockhole lane, with a few old outbuildings that look like they’re in use. You can just catch a glimpse of the house as you come onto the R139 roundabout - is anyone farming or doing anything in there? Never met or heard of anyone who knows anything about the place. There’s a good bit of land around it anyway.

    Hi Duke

    That house I think you are referring to has a clock tower type feature in it? Used to be where Jonathan Swift lived. Used to be two brothers owned it. Don't know their names but think one of them is still alive. I stand corrected on this but did Pino Harris used to do spray painting in the out buildings. There's a lovely old greenhouse in it similar to the botanical gardens ones.

    The area around there was known either as the pheasant and rabbit or the other way round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    There is a big house just opposite the Clayton hotel at the end of Stockhole lane, with a few old outbuildings that look like they’re in use. You can just catch a glimpse of the house as you come onto the R139 roundabout - is anyone farming or doing anything in there? Never met or heard of anyone who knows anything about the place. There’s a good bit of land around it anyway.
    Is that at the Clayton near the airport? If it is, it belonged to McKennas. Their father was a war of independence veteran and then became General in the Irish army


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Hi Duke

    That house I think you are referring to has a clock tower type feature in it? Used to be where Jonathan Swift lived. Used to be two brothers owned it. Don't know their names but think one of them is still alive. I stand corrected on this but did Pino Harris used to do spray painting in the out buildings. There's a lovely old greenhouse in it similar to the botanical gardens ones.

    The area around there was known either as the pheasant and rabbit or the other way round.

    If it’s the one, that’s mckennas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Cattlepen wrote: »
    If it’s the one, that’s mckennas

    Father just confirmed the name you gave cattlepen. Top man thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    The house is called Woodlands. I remember hearing the army story before alright. It’s an interesting looking house. There was an old gate lodge on the Clonshaugh backroads, was demolished a few years ago


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    The house is called Woodlands. I remember hearing the army story before alright. It’s an interesting looking house. There was an old gate lodge on the Clonshaugh backroads, was demolished a few years ago

    Forans lived in the gatelodge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Forans lived in the gatelodge.

    Same Forans from balgriffin?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Same Forans from balgriffin?

    I don't know that Duke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    With respect I think the thread title should be changed to North Co. Dublin.

    It was always a farming and fruit and veg and spud place.

    Great thread anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    The house is called Woodlands. I remember hearing the army story before alright. It’s an interesting looking house. There was an old gate lodge on the Clonshaugh backroads, was demolished a few years ago
    General mckenna used be telling stories about the war of independence and life on the run to a man I knew. He told about visiting home one time and the British army were roughing up his mother. He said he lost the rag And opened up with a tommy gun Standing out in the open. He didn’t stop till all his ammo was gone . He escaped. The man who told me said he didn’t really believe him till he was reading a British officers book of memoirs Of his time fighting in Ireland and the officer book contained the story exactly as McKenna told it. The officer was amazed at his bravery and recklessness
    This incident didn’t happen at that house though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Came across this article from 1999 about some of the challenges of farming in Dublin -
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/dublin-farming-seen-as-having-role-in-slowing-urbanisation-1.206453


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    With respect I think the thread title should be changed to North Co. Dublin.

    It was always a farming and fruit and veg and spud place.

    Great thread anyway.

    Ya I suppose, the farming heartlands of the Southside have postcodes


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