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Woman pushed into Royal Canal

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    #92
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    smurgen wrote: »
    She was naive and it was dangerous to do. However we as a society need to start confronting anti social behaviour. We seem to Turn a blind eye to a lot of things. That stabbing of the youth in Cork for example was attrocious.

    This a hundred percent. But they need to have something to fear for this to work.

    At the moment, for most, confronting makes yourself a target, like here


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    #93
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,105 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    And so my point has been made.

    She was physically assaulted and racially abused, and the left defend the attackers! The world is upside down.
    "The left" defend the attackers...where? On this thread? Who has defended them?


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    #94
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    kenmm wrote: »
    Don't be silly now.

    The key word here was *lengthy*.

    Do you think assault should carry a 20 year prison term?
    The crime here is bad, it should be punished. No one is defending the attackers and you cannot turn this into a left Vs right debate, no matter how hard (but poorly) you try.

    A year seems fair enough and could be considered lengthy in the context. Not suspended though.


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    #95
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Optimalprimerib wrote: »
    These kids are bored. We need a war to ship them off to. Get rid of them for a couple of years.

    Actually think 6 months conscription would be an amazing thing for the youth of this country.

    6 months of regime, discipline, hard work etc will teach invaluable life skills to disenfranchised youth and probably new life long friendships.


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    #96
    kenmm
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    GarIT wrote: »
    A year seems fair enough and could be considered lengthy in the context. Not suspended though.

    Whatever is deemed fair or not is for the professionals tbh, my point is.. who the feck is defending this behaviour!


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    #97
    fryup
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    Like something out of the Young Offenders tbh

    we enjoy watching them on TV but tut tut them in real life


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    #98
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Safe to say this woman won’t be winning any Einstein awards for lecturing a crowd of teenagers with her back to a canal...right behind her...

    Not the cleverest - Come on like, race doesn’t come into it

    Well done you hero on the victim blaming.

    Clown.

    As an aside I heard Owen Roddy has kicked out one of the culprits from SBG Charlestown.


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    #99
    Irish_peppa
    Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    I see some people saying she shouldnt of lectured them I wonder in the region she is from Asia maybe younger people / teenagers possibly wouldnt normally do such a thing to older person so a degree of naievety of what she was getting involved in? I learned years ago even if you are bigger / older then these young thugs just keep away. Years ago I and a friend were walking down by the canal when a group of "hoods" caught up with us which had been casually walking behind us. Being physically much bigger and older i didnt really worry (naieve). All of a sudden there was a hand in my pocket and within seconds we were surrounded by a group of thugs pulling at us and pulling at our pockets and bags. My phone was taken. it was over in seconds. There is a pack mentality like hyenas with these. I also note on the video it looks like a red haired girl also goes in for the push at the same time. (maybe im seeing that wrong thou


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    #100
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    Pkiernan wrote: »
    And so my point has been made.

    She was physically assaulted and racially abused, and the left defend the attackers! The world is upside down.

    That poster isn't left wing..


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    #101
    kenmm
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    Anthony Patch wrote: »
    No you wouldn't be able to take them on because you'd be outnumbered. These twats always operate as a gang.

    In this case, easily. So ye Fu(k it let's bring on this vigilante world.

    If you disagree, I'll meet you on O'Connell Street for a scrap, ye?

    That's how's it's going to work, no?


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    #102
    ThunbergsAreGo
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    fryup wrote: »
    Like something out of the Young Offenders tbh

    we enjoy watching them on TV but tut tut them in real life

    I actually actively dislike that show for glorifying this boll*x


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    #103
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Anthony Patch wrote: »
    In the real world, once you're outnumbered, you have no chance of winning a fight.

    Dosen't matter how big you are.

    It's getting silly now, isn't it?

    In the real world fighting violence with violence doesn't work.
    It's easy to say things like 'they just need a slap' or the police should give them a beating. In reality it's not very practical or particularly useful.

    That was the subtle point I was trying to make. You seem to have missed that and think I'm about to go fighting gangs single handedly.


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    #104
    Bonniedog
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    At the very least she's not terribly streetwise.
    Did she think after a talking to, these lads will have a lightbulb moment and apologise to her?
    Lol.

    Perhaps she has some personal dignity and courage?

    A quality rapidly diminishing in this kip.


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    #105
    ThunbergsAreGo
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    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Perhaps she has some personal dignity and courage?

    A quality rapidly diminishing in this kip.

    I'm actually glad these appear to be our own home grown scumbags. To many deflecting any youth problems into any groups - race, nationality etc.

    We "Irish" have our own scumbag problem. They have nothing to fear


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    #106
    Annasopra
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    MFPM wrote: »
    Man defends violent assault on woman...what a charmer you are.

    I think he was sarcastically responding to the person he quoted who was victim blaming

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #107
    GarIT
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    kenmm wrote: »
    Whatever is deemed fair or not is for the professionals tbh, my point is.. who the feck is defending this behaviour!

    It needs to be taken away from them. They have been ****ing it up long enough. We need a referendum on mandatory minimum sentences. We need a referendum to make concurrent and suspended sentences unconstitutional.


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    #108
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    kenmm wrote: »
    It's getting silly now, isn't it?

    Making the point that we should stand up to scobes is not silly at all.

    I had a couple of the local ones annoying the missus. I produced a baseball bat and grabbed one by the neck and threatened to use the bat on him if it continued. It stopped.

    If the law is useless here we have the right to defend ourselves.


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    #109
    kenmm
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    Anthony Patch wrote: »
    What is?

    My comments got cut off- I'll repeat here:

    In the real world fighting violence with violence doesn't work.
    It's easy to say things like 'they just need a slap' or the police should give them a beating. In reality it's not very practical or particularly useful.

    That was the subtle point I was trying to make. You seem to have missed that and think I'm about to go fighting gangs single handedly.


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    #110
    GarIT
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    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Well done you hero on the victim blaming.

    Clown.

    As an aside I heard Owen Roddy has kicked out one of the culprits from SBG Charlestown.

    SBG has denied any of them ever being in their gym.


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    #111
    whisky_galore
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    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Perhaps she has some personal dignity and courage?

    A quality rapidly diminishing in this kip.

    Perhaps. It was unlikely to make an impression, except they're probably still having a laugh about it.

    Know your audience.


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    #112
    kenmm
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    amadangomor wrote: »
    Making the point that we should stand up to scobes is not silly at all.

    I had a couple of the local ones annoying the missus. I produced a baseball bat and grabbed one by the neck and threatened to use the bat on him if it continued. It stopped.

    If the law is useless here we have the right to defend ourselves.

    'if the law is useless'.. my point is, we should fix that instead of descending into a vigilante based community.

    You were lucky that you were around to do that, but if you weren't, what would have happened?
    Or later when they could come back and brick your windows.


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    #113
    Oscar Madison
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    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Perhaps she has some personal dignity and courage?

    A quality rapidly diminishing in this kip.


    She should have kept walking regardless! Idiot!!!


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    #114
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Anthony Patch wrote: »
    Then it seems you are in agreement with me.

    Apart from the part where you wanted the police to go beating people up?


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    #115
    LuasSimon
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    Oscar Madison wrote: »
    She should have kept walking regardless! Idiot!!!

    You think the scum should be allowed to take over our towns and villages ?


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    #116
    ThunbergsAreGo
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    Oscar Madison wrote: »
    She should have kept walking regardless! Idiot!!!

    Maybe it's not the first time? Maybe she was tired of living in fear.

    She's the last person to blame.

    I wish more, me included, did it


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    #117
    whisky_galore
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    LuasSimon wrote: »
    You think the scum should be allowed to take over our towns and villages ?

    I think they already have in some cases.

    What do you suggest?


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    #118
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    kenmm wrote: »
    'if the law is useless'.. my point is, we should fix that instead of descending into a vigilante based community.

    You were lucky that you were around to do that, but if you weren't, what would have happened?
    Or later when they could come back and brick your windows.

    The law does nothing to stop this behaviour and it's unlikely to change.

    Sometimes you have to make a stand and no way was I letting teenagers abuse my other half every day.

    Lots have countries don't have this problem because scobes would get a hiding from the locals/police if they started to intimidate people.


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    #119
    MFPM
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    Anthony Patch wrote: »
    I'd have no issue with the guards slapping the heads off these knackers. Won't happen sadly.

    Can we less of that language FFS.


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    #120
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Anthony Patch wrote: »
    I'd have no issue with the guards slapping the heads off these knackers. Won't happen sadly.

    Ye, fine, but it doesn't mean we are in agreement.


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    #121
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Anthony Patch wrote: »
    I think we are broadly speaking.

    How far do you want this violent police force to go?


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