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For Sale ad includes full picture of my house

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Mod Note

    maestroamado do not post in this thread again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,375 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Hi,

    Neighbour's house just went up for sale and I noticed on the ad that my house is visible in all the pictures - not comfortable with this.

    On Google Images, I've blurred my house .

    Could I ask the Estate Agent to remove my house from the pictures?

    ooooffff

    don't want to be around when you hear about google street view


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    lawred2 wrote: »
    ooooffff

    don't want to be around when you hear about google street view

    That would be the same Google Street view that I presume the op is talking about when referring to Google images?

    That was then discussed as a private service that offers its users the courtesy of blurring images.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Graham wrote: »
    Mod Note

    maestroamado do not post in this thread again.


    Tell your posters why if you have reason...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Tell your posters why if you have reason...

    Which part was unclear:
    Graham wrote: »
    Mod Note
    Please do not reply to this post.

    Fair warning, post again on this thread and a forum ban is the next step.

    You are welcome to take your feedback to the appropriate forum.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    if the sneering condecending attitude towards posters who ask a question that is not to the liking of others will not be the death of Boards.ie then it will be the increasingly popular trend of people trawling through their opponents posting history and bringing up everything they said on other threads in an effort to discredit them and score a few cheap points by taking their past posts out of context.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Car number plates can only link a car to an address.
    Sure the viewer of the website already knows your address based on the house for sale ad.

    @Gumbo: I often see reg plates blurred as people are concerned but question for anyone who knows, I’ve looked my own up in the past and from my own efforts I’ve found it is impossible to find an address from a reg plate. Is it possible for anyone other than the Gardai to find someone’s home address from a reg plate?

    To the OP, I would just ask the neighbour to contact the estate agent and blur out the reg plates, I’d say they get these requests from time to time and would be very happy to oblige without much issue. Easily solved.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,317 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    kenmm wrote: »
    AHH the classic trawling post history. You got me!

    There is clearly a difference between asking a simple question on a very specific subject that relates to a personal situation and an open discussion on a large topic regarding public current affairs.

    Here is a question, do you want to be part of an open community that encourages new members, where people can interact with each other and feel welcome?
    Or would you rather chase people away and be part of a closed group?

    This is a discussion more suited to other places, maybe as mod you could move this out into its own thread?

    Agh the classic attack.
    It’s on the first page of your public profile, no trawling required ;)

    Anyway, the point is being missed that the OP was asked what was their reasons. Nothing more, nothing less and people jumped on the band wagon that he/she was attacked.

    One or 2 posts crossed the line but the mods have dealt with that, and rightly so.

    The simple answer is the OP can politely ask their neighbor to ask the EA.

    If that’s all the OP wants to hear, then the thread can be closed.

    People are moaning about open discussions etc, this is exactly what these types of threads bring on. Open discussion about the topic. The OP shouldn’t be berated through, but the topic can and should be discussed if people want to.

    The camp that don’t see an issue have just as much right to question the reasons in the same way the camp that see an issue have just as much right to question the issue.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,317 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    @Gumbo: I often see reg plates blurred as people are concerned but question for anyone who knows, I’ve looked my own up in the past and from my own efforts I’ve found it is impossible to find an address from a reg plate. Is it possible for anyone other than the Gardai to find someone’s home address from a reg plate?

    To the OP, I would just ask the neighbour to contact the estate agent and blur out the reg plates, I’d say they get these requests from time to time and would be very happy to oblige without much issue. Easily solved.

    Gardai, NCT, Toll Bridge operators, Toll Tag Operators, Parking Enforcement. To name but a few. All it takes is one person in there that passes the info to the person looking for the address.

    I’m not saying I’d be worried myself but there are many private companies that have access to the info and all it takes is one rogue employee in there that can float the rules.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Agh the classic attack..

    From me? Or the trawling?

    Either way, I don't think people are jumping on a bandwagon claiming op was 'attacked' as such, more a general sneering attitude?

    That's why I asked this:

    Here is a question, do you want to be part of an open community that encourages new members, where people can interact with each other and feel welcome?
    Or would you rather chase people away and be part of a closed group?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Tow wrote: »
    Might the Revenue knocking on their doors :-)

    You'd be waiting. I reported a 2017 Disco driving first on a ZW plate and then, after the first report, it changed to a ?W plate. I reported it 3 more times. Nothing was done.

    So you'd be waiting.

    And no, I don't go around squealing. It's a huge affront to classic car enthusiasts. I have no doubt the man is criminally connected. Hence why I used an anonymous VPN and an anonymous Good Citizen Report.

    Ps Op, I 100% agree with your privacy wishes. And yes, there's a shedload of cowards in this forum who love to sneer. Pure assh*ts with very little real world knowledge. They demand the full picture, despite you starting the thread. Usual form. 100% self-pleasuring asshats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    . Hence why I used an anonymous VPN and an anonymous Good Citizen Report.

    But there is a chance if anyone knows you on boards, then you have probably given away enough info in that post to identify the car being reported..

    Edit, I mean that as in, you might want to edit out the details, particular if there is a criminal element involved (a long shot!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    Op is entilted to ask the EA, or ask the neighbour.

    Anyone is entilted to request anything of anyone.

    However, the EA or neighbour is not obliged to entertain any request unless they have a legal or contractual obligation. They might, out of coutesy entertain the request. They might also, tell them to get lost or flat out ignore them, and would be quite entilted to do that also.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,317 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    if the sneering condecending attitude towards posters who ask a question that is not to the liking of others will not be the death of Boards.ie then it will be the increasingly popular trend of people trawling through their opponents posting history and bringing up everything they said on other threads in an effort to discredit them and score a few cheap points by taking their past posts out of context.

    I can see your point on this so I’ve edited my post to remove the quote from another thread. It wasn’t an attack on that poster but more to try prove a point that maybe people have a genuine curiosity to the reasons behind the request.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    kenmm wrote: »
    But there is a chance if anyone knows you on boards, then you have probably given away enough info in that post to identify the car being reported..

    Not at all.
    . Even if they know me, they won't know a car I meet on my travels. Relax. And trust that I have more strings in my bow than on show.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    kenmm wrote: »
    But there is a chance if anyone knows you on boards, then you have probably given away enough info in that post to identify the car being reported..

    Edit, I mean that as in, you might want to edit out the details, particular if there is a criminal element involved (a long shot!)

    Off topic but thanks I appreciate that sentiment. I'll perhaps edit but have dealt with such types.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,946 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Agh the classic attack.
    It’s on the first page of your public profile, no trawling required ;)

    Anyway, the point is being missed that the OP was asked what was their reasons. Nothing more, nothing less and people jumped on the band wagon that he/she was attacked.

    One or 2 posts crossed the line but the mods have dealt with that, and rightly so.

    The simple answer is the OP can politely ask their neighbor to ask the EA.

    If that’s all the OP wants to hear, then the thread can be closed.

    People are moaning about open discussions etc, this is exactly what these types of threads bring on. Open discussion about the topic. The OP shouldn’t be berated through, but the topic can and should be discussed if people want to.

    The camp that don’t see an issue have just as much right to question the reasons in the same way the camp that see an issue have just as much right to question the issue.

    The first response to the OP's question - is "you have little to be worrying about". That's hardly discussing a topic - that's shutting down discussion and mocking the OP from the get go. We dont know why the OP is asking the question and to be honest we dont need to know. Why was that completely irrelevant post not deleted?

    Likewise, there are other comments - block yourself in with lasers etc.

    I agree with the poster who asks the question if Boards wants to be open and inclusive as its supposed to be a Community Forum - or driving away people as has happened here and has happened many times.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    They demand the full picture, despite you starting the thread.

    Should that not be standard enough though? Giving "the full picture" if you're going to ask other people for their advice or opinions? Rather than starting a thread with a very unusual request and affording no reasoning at all to the people that you expect to help you out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,946 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Should that not be standard enough though? Giving "the full picture" if you're going to ask other people for their advice or opinions? Rather than starting a thread with a very unusual request and affording no reasoning at all to the people that you expect to help you out.

    It is a very straightforward question which has a set answer and I would not see it as a very unusual request either.

    I am not sure why you need to know what the posters concerns are. Poster has said they are not happy with the reg plate being shown together with their home. I would have similar concerns. People walking by your house can see your car, but that is very different than showing that information online.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Should that not be standard enough though? Giving "the full picture" if you're going to ask other people for their advice or opinions? Rather than starting a thread with a very unusual request and affording no reasoning at all to the people that you expect to help you out.

    This is way off topic now - so I understand if this needs to be shut down, but I would welcome it being moved to a new thread somewhere more suitable as it's an interesting topic..

    But there are multiple factors here:

    - The tone of some of the first few messages - was pretty condescending.
    There is a difference between clarifying some details in a helpful manner and outright "You have little for worrying about." - how does such a post help in this case?
    - What may seem a 'very unusual' request to you may not be so to others.
    - The OP may not wish to answer because those reasons themselves are something they deem irrelevant/personal/something else - why make them go through this multiple times (some people have no interest in helping or furthering discussion, but just want to post the same thing, again).
    - A post like this should be like 3 answers long - done. Why do more and more people feel the need to give their own opinion (like it matters).

    (And yes.. I am now shooting myself in the foot with the last point!)

    It's the combination of these points (and other issues) that lead to a general "sneering" and frankly off putting attitude, that will only serve to drive more people away from the site.

    EDIT: also - does the full picture also include implying the users request is to somehow hide from illegal activity? Asking about owning foreign registered cars?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 921 ✭✭✭ShaunC


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Have you considered building a 20 foot high wall around your house and driveway? Then you could ensure nobody can see your house.

    Now Bubbaclaus, that is just silly, a 12ft wall would be good enough for the job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    if the agent wants to sell house x,
    why does he post a picture of 2 house,s .there should be a large picture of one house .it makes no sense to me.
    Of course anyone can go on google on see a picture of any house unless its in a rural area down a side road .
    if i,m selling a ford escort why would i post a pic with 2 cars in it .
    any one can take a picture of the front of a house and post it on the web.
    no harm in asking the ea or the owner to post a different photo,
    showing just the house for sale.
    i presume you are concerned about privacy.
    having 2 houses in a picture does not help attract potential buyers at all


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Mod Note

    ok folks, as we've veered way off topic now I'm going to close the thread here and quote one of the most sensible responses for the OPs benefit.
    Op is entilted to ask the EA, or ask the neighbour.

    Anyone is entilted to request anything of anyone.

    However, the EA or neighbour is not obliged to entertain any request unless they have a legal or contractual obligation. They might, out of coutesy entertain the request. They might also, tell them to get lost or flat out ignore them, and would be quite entilted to do that also.

    As always, if you have an issue with a post please report it.

    If you have an issue with moderation, or A & P in general, PM one of the mod team or start a thread in feedback.


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