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Anyone else feel kinda bad after hunting?

  • 19-08-2020 1:17pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭


    I feel a bit of remorse after shooting a animal beside rats i can't help for feeling kinda bad despite knowing hunting is more ethical than store bought meat. Does anyone else feel the same.?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    What did people do before modern farming practices came into being. They hunted and fished. Did they feel remorse ? I doubt it. Once you consume whatever you kill where is the problem ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Julez


    I'm not a hunter personally, I know I would feel a little bad about the animal if I was, however, if you weren't to kill that animal it's likely to die in worse circumstances than if you kill it quickly. Starve, or get attacked and eaten by something else. As long as you are eating that meat you should feel better than all the rest of us eating store bought meat where, while even when killed ethically, animals don't have a nice life, which is far worse in my opinion than the actual act of killing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭cookimonster


    99.9% of the time NO.

    If I feck up and don't cleanly take an animal then yeah I can feel bad, but my priority at the time is to end the animals suffering quickly. On reflection after the deed I may either find fault with my actions or feel bad for not doing better.
    Hunting, culling, vermin control tend to all end in the same out come, taking a life. I don't kill things unless there's a need, for example foxes will get a pass in locations that thier presence is not an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Watch some of these wildlife documentaries, there is nothing so cruel as Mother Nature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    cosieman wrote: »
    I feel a bit of remorse after shooting a animal beside rats i can't help for feeling kinda bad despite knowing hunting is more ethical than store bought meat. Does anyone else feel the same.?


    You don't feel remorse after shooting rats. Why should you feel remorse after shooting other animals so ?


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  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tudderone wrote: »
    Watch some of these wildlife documentaries, there is nothing so cruel as Mother Nature.

    Youtube: Watch a zebra being torn apart by lions as it gives birth to its foal. I'll see if I can find it.

    https://youtu.be/HhiGvFkv0wc


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 Rick_Rack


    Youtube: Watch a zebra being torn apart by lions as it gives birth to its foal. I'll see if I can find it.

    https://youtu.be/HhiGvFkv0wc

    that sounded way cooler than it actually was! lol


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rick_Rack wrote: »
    that sounded way cooler than it actually was! lol
    You're no Disney friend and never watched Bambi obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    99.9% of the time NO.

    If I feck up and don't cleanly take an animal then yeah I can feel bad, but my priority at the time is to end the animals suffering quickly. On reflection after the deed I may either find fault with my actions or feel bad for not doing better.
    Hunting, culling, vermin control tend to all end in the same out come, taking a life. I don't kill things unless there's a need, for example foxes will get a pass in locations that thier presence is not an issue.

    There are active fox burrows about 500 yards from my front door and as well as the rifles I have a terrier that is not too fond of them.

    I haven't had an issue with any of my free range poultry in a couple of years (touch wood) and as long as it stays like that the inhabitants of those burrows are in no danger from me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 I right I


    cosieman wrote: »
    I feel a bit of remorse after shooting a animal beside rats i can't help for feeling kinda bad despite knowing hunting is more ethical than store bought meat. Does anyone else feel the same.?

    No.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭German pointer


    The only thing I feel after shooting an animal is recoil ��������


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭kunekunesika


    Yes.
    It varies. Depends what and when I'm shooting.
    Shoot a fox that's eating my chickens, never an issue. Shooting hinds heavily in calf, doesn't always sit well. Shooting any deer when the freezer is nearly empty, rarely if ever e concern.
    Your in the business of taking life, the odd concern reminds you of that. Never had it with rats though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭cookimonster


    The only thing I feel after shooting an animal is recoil ��������

    Your not holding it properly 😁


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,124 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    An absolutely normal and healthy psychological reaction in anyone who hunts.Be more worried if you felt nothing or just a desire to immediately do it again.
    People who have hunted dangerous big game have described it as being hit with multiple emotions at once.Joy at being alive, empathy with the animal, sadness for having to kill it, happiness for the experience and for providing food and others. Hemingways story of the old man and the sea has alot of these emotions in it.
    Its why I was taught you should spend some time with your freshly shot trophy alone before you start the blood work
    Take it whatever way works for you,if you are spirtual,religious, whatever as a moment to make peace with yourself and with the animals spirt for taking it.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    In a country with no predators other than humans, what happens to deer when they get old? Is it true they starve to death because their teeth wear down/fall out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    In a country with no predators other than humans, what happens to deer when they get old? Is it true they starve to death because their teeth wear down/fall out?

    I suppose like ourselves there are many ways death can visit...

    https://www.wildlifeonline.me.uk/animals/article/red-deer-mortality


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    An absolutely normal and healthy psychological reaction in anyone who hunts.Be more worried if you felt nothing or just a desire to immediately do it again.
    People who have hunted dangerous big game have described it as being hit with multiple emotions at once.Joy at being alive, empathy with the animal, sadness for having to kill it, happiness for the experience and for providing food and others. Hemingways story of the old man and the sea has alot of these emotions in it.
    Its why I was taught you should spend some time with your freshly shot trophy alone before you start the blood work
    Take it whatever way works for you,if you are spirtual,religious, whatever as a moment to make peace with yourself and with the animals spirt for taking it.

    Grizzly, as you know yourself in the continental traditions short ceremonies are routinely held at the end of the day’s hunting to celebrate and give thanks for and to the game. It’s exactly that dual feeling that every proper hunter should experience at least every now and again that’s being celebrated.

    Personally I take it as a matter of respect for the game I shoot, be it a red deer or a duck, that as much as possible of the carcass ends up on a plate.

    It boils my blood no end to see people shooting a few pheasants or ducks for example to subsequently dump them. If all you want to do is shooting moving targets go clay shooting and leave the game to live another day or until a real hunter comes around who respects his or her bounty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭clivej


    cosieman wrote: »
    I feel a bit of remorse after shooting a animal beside rats i can't help for feeling kinda bad despite knowing hunting is more ethical than store bought meat. Does anyone else feel the same.?

    I sort'a feel different, I miss not being able to hunt in the off season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭useurowname


    I used to shot a lot more and I’d admit in my early twenties I was greedy. While I always meant to eat what I bagged, a lot ended up at the bottom of freezers and subsequently was given to dogs.
    Now I’m very strict on myself on what I shoot, and I don’t shoot snipe, woodcock or wintering duck anymore. A few pheasants and an odd Mallard and nothing goes in the freezer, straight to pot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,124 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Grizzly, as you know yourself in the continental traditions short ceremonies are routinely held at the end of the day’s hunting to celebrate and give thanks for and to the game. It’s exactly that dual feeling that every proper hunter should experience at least every now and again that’s being celebrated.

    Yip,and its found in every "primitive culture" too anywhere were hunters feed their people from Eskimoes Native American Indians down to Kalahari Bushmen.There is always thanks given to the slain animal and the gods for providing some kind of sustenance.

    The Germans have the tradition of giving "the last bite" to the slain deer of putting some leaves in its mouth from the forest trees,and presenting a small bough of it to the hunter on your hat on the Left side while wishing them "Waidmannsheil"[Hail the hunter ]you remove your hat and reply "waidmannsdank" [Hunters thanks] and put the offerd bough on the left side of your hat. Dont ask me the rationale behind this part of the ceremony...But head wear is pretty obligatory in German hunting :D:D

    The idea of the last bite is that when you die,and stand at the final judgement all the animals you have owned and hunted may speak for or against you as a good owner or hunter.So it is prudent to give their spirit a token on their way into the hereafter.

    Unfortunately even the antis sht on this tradition and claim that us bstds even shoot animals when they are eating.:mad::mad:

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Yip,and its found in every "primitive culture" too anywhere were hunters feed their people from Eskimoes Native American Indians down to Kalahari Bushmen.There is always thanks given to the slain animal and the gods for providing some kind of sustenance.

    The Germans have the tradition of giving "the last bite" to the slain deer of putting some leaves in its mouth from the forest trees,and presenting a small bough of it to the hunter on your hat on the Left side while wishing them "Waidmannsheil"[Hail the hunter ]you remove your hat and reply "waidmannsdank" [Hunters thanks] and put the offerd bough on the left side of your hat. Dont ask me the rationale behind this part of the ceremony...But head wear is pretty obligatory in German hunting :D:D

    The idea of the last bite is that when you die,and stand at the final judgement all the animals you have owned and hunted may speak for or against you as a good owner or hunter.So it is prudent to give their spirit a token on their way into the hereafter.

    Unfortunately even the antis sht on this tradition and claim that us bstds even shoot animals when they are eating.:mad::mad:

    Never mind the anti’s, most wouldn’t know their arse from their elbow and wouldn’t be able to feed themselves from a two hundred acre farm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭JP22


    Retired from game hunting a few years now. Remorse/sadness, NO as all game was shot for the pot.

    Only time I felt sadness was when wounding/winging game, it happens to us all at some time. This is where a really good dog comes into play to locate and dispatch as quickly as possible.


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