General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

Potential Underachiever

RasTa wrote: »

He's done a Klopp then.

Poor from Ole.

JPA

giveitholly wrote: »

Taken off because he was injured

Ole said he was but that's something managers say when they take a player off at HT.

adox

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Was he? Didn't notice, thought Bruno was supposed to be injured too? Or did he simply want to keep him for midweek.

Ole said in his post match interview that he had to take him off as he had an injury.

Bruno was carrying a knock on his foot since the Southampton game. Not injured per say but Ole said he didn’t want to use him today unless he had to.

adox

JPA wrote: »

Ole said he was but that's something managers say when they take a player off at HT.

Except he didn’t say that about VDB who was also hooked at half time.

JPA

Only allowed 2000 fans. Let's put them all in the same stand.

RasTa

JPA wrote: »

Ole said he was but that's something managers say when they take a player off at HT.

No way Martial was staying on over him.

ShamoBuc

JPA wrote: »

Only allowed 2000 fans. Let's put them all in the same stand.

Once it's big enough so that they are socially distanced, so what?

The Kop will have 1500 and the Main Stand 500 tomorrow.

Probably a better chance of an atmosphere if they are in the same stand and less stewarding as you dont have the 'whole stadium' open.

PsychoPete

Nicely taken goal from Bamford

ShamoBuc

Lovely goal. Lively start.

Shanotheslayer

Werner????

ongarite

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Werner????

I need a replay of that

Agent Coulson

What a clearance from Werner pity for him it was the wrong end.

eigrod

As a traditionalist remembering great Chelsea and Leeds games in the 70s, its kinda sad to see Leeds not wearing white in this fixture.

eigrod

Another hamstring injury. I wonder do the stats back up a perception of more muscular injuries in PL this early in a season compared to previous seasons. Delph, Martial and now Ziyech in 3 games today.

CSF

eigrod wrote: »

Another hamstring injury. I wonder do the stats back up a perception of more muscular injuries in PL this early in a season compared to previous seasons. Delph, Martial and now Ziyech in 3 games today.

None of whom have played a huge amount this year so it’s hard to place any kind of pattern with it on previous seasons.

Drumpot

Essien, Makele, Kante, Chelsea always have absolutely awesome midfielders like these lads.

Fitz*

CSF wrote: »

None of whom have played a huge amount this year so it’s hard to place any kind of pattern with it on previous seasons.

2 of the 3 players that got injured to also played midweek with a shorter turnaround after multiple games played previous to today. Same as Milner. Same as Alderweireld. All players playing multiple completions in a shorter time frame and then getting muscle injuries.

There is a trend developing.

citytillidie

Fitz* wrote: »

2 of the 3 players that got injured to also played midweek with a shorter turnaround after multiple games played previous to today. Same as Milner. Same as Alderweireld. All players playing multiple completions in a shorter time frame and then getting muscle injuries.

There is a trend developing.

It may hit those teams who have not been playing in Europe now over December as they will have a few weeks of playing weekend and mid weeks instead of once a week

Fitz*

citytillidie wrote: »

It may hit those teams who have not been playing in Europe now over December as they will have a few weeks of playing weekend and mid weeks instead of once a week

Yeah there is a week coming up soon where there are 3 PL games in a week. It will be interesting to see how the teams in the bottom half cope with the 3rd game in that set of fixtures. I think it will be the first time this season for most teams having 3 meaningful fixtures in a week so how will they approach it?

A lot of eyes will be on BT & Des Kelly at roughly 14.30 as Liverpool have been chosen for the early kick off away from home after playing on the Wednesday again. And we all know what happened last time around.

eigrod

Identical incident there to the Robertson & Wellbeck one - VAR didn’t even look at it. Ffs.

Mushy

eigrod wrote: »

Identical inconsistent there to the Robertson & Wellbeck one - VAR didn’t even look at it. Ffs.

Dont think after playing advantage that they would. Was a stonewall penalty if went down like the welbeck Robertson one though

Loafing Oaf

Beautifully crafted goal. Attacks at this level are a finely honed machine

SlickRic

Even though he's had monstrous backing, credit to Lampard. They are playing pretty fúcking well.

The best things he's been able to do though:

Bring in Mendy to replace Kepa.
Trust Zouma.
Ask Kanté to focus on what he does best in protecting the back 4.

Real challengers for the league.

JPA

SlickRic wrote: »

Even though he's had monstrous backing, credit to Lampard. They are playing pretty fúcking well.

The best things he's been able to do though:

Bring in Mendy to replace Kepa.
Trust Zouma.
Ask Kanté to focus on what he does best in protecting the back 4.

Real challengers for the league.

And Thiago Silva.

That line call in the united game was a shocker.

BorneTobyWilde

In snooker sometimes a player will touch, but not even move a ball while cueing, but he'll always tell the ref and except the consequence. But in football cheating is expected, and whatever you can get away with is applauded by those who benefit.

Ole on touch line saw that ball was 2 foot out of play, but he just kept quiet , cheated knowingly. I know the goal would have stood anyway if he did speak up, but he then could have ordered his team to let West Ham score to balance it out.

I hate cheaters, it's not classy .

Bit much to ask a manager to call it

But the officials contrive to make another mistake that favours utd imo

Chelsea have great options in attack, theyd be dark horses this season i reckon

All_in_Flynn

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

In snooker sometimes a player will touch, but not even move a ball while cueing, but he'll always tell the ref and except the consequence. But in football cheating is expected, and whatever you can get away with is applauded by those who benefit.

Ole on touch line saw that ball was 2 foot out of play, but he just kept quiet , cheated knowingly. I know the goal would have stood anyway if he did speak up, but he then could have ordered his team to let West Ham score to balance it out.

I hate cheaters, it's not classy .

lol, good grief

doc_17

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Chelsea have great options in attack, theyd be dark horses this season i reckon

After spending £0.3Bn the last thing I’d call them is dark horses.

8-10

Man United and Liverpool have each conceded more goals this season than Sheffield United, who are bottom with 1 point

Mad season so far

doc_17

doc_17 wrote: »

After spending £0.3Bn the last thing I’d call them is dark horses.

Fair but im not sure anyone had them as challengers, but then its more about lfc/city not firing yet

ERG89

8-10 wrote: »

Man United and Liverpool have each conceded more goals this season than Sheffield United, who are bottom with 1 point

Mad season so far

At least quote the man's tweet

https://twitter.com/oilysailor/status/1335303431062507524?s=19

Decuc500

Every player claims a throw or corner when they know the ball touched them last. It's coached into them. That's why I have no sympathy for Moyes.

If the ball had stayed in but was very close Moyes would still be jumping around claiming it was out.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

ERG89 wrote: »

At least quote the man's tweet

https://twitter.com/oilysailor/status/1335303431062507524?s=19

In fairness, they let most of them in on the space of about 6 hours.

This is it

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

In snooker sometimes a player will touch, but not even move a ball while cueing, but he'll always tell the ref and except the consequence. But in football cheating is expected, and whatever you can get away with is applauded by those who benefit.

Ole on touch line saw that ball was 2 foot out of play, but he just kept quiet , cheated knowingly. I know the goal would have stood anyway if he did speak up, but he then could have ordered his team to let West Ham score to balance it out.

I hate cheaters, it's not classy .

Ah come on, you're taking the píss surely. Week in week out we see players dive, or get awarded frees or penalties when they shouldn't. Are managers to tell their team to "balance it out" every time now? The ref and assistants are there to enforce the rules, I wouldn't expect any manager to balance anything out

gimli2112

This is it wrote: »

Ah come on, you're taking the píss surely. Week in week out we see players dive, or get awarded frees or penalties when they shouldn't. Are managers to tell their team to "balance it out" every time now? The ref and assistants are there to enforce the rules, I wouldn't expect any manager to balance anything out

there's an unwritten rule in the Liverpool thread that if you're outraged by a post first check it's not Toby being Toby.
We can't all be honest angels like Fowler and Di Canio. I didn't see the Manchester United game and from reading the comments assume they were practicing their dark arts.

doc_17

Didn’t see the incident yet. Why didn’t VAR look at it if it was “2 foot over the line”?

Agent Coulson

doc_17 wrote: »

Didn’t see the incident yet. Why didn’t VAR look at it if it was “2 foot over the line”?

According to MotD they don't have the technology to see it.

TitianGerm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

According to MotD they don't have the technology to see it.

I haven't seen it yet should the linesman not have seen it?

Agent Coulson

TitianGerm wrote: »

I haven't seen it yet should the linesman not have seen it?

He seemed to be looking along the line not at the ball.

I just question that they have the algorithms to tell if a player is 1mm offside from when a ball leaves a passing players foot and can spend minutes drawing lines yet they they couldn’t see a ball nearly a foot over the sideline.

They also didn’t see an Identical tackle in the Chelsea Leeds game to the one in the Brighton Liverpool that was a penalty last week however wasn’t one this week.


There is no consistency to VAR which was brought in to bring consistency.

Fitz*

Agent Coulson wrote: »

According to MotD they don't have the technology to see it.

This clip from MOTD shows the ball was well out.

https://twitter.com/donhutch4/status/1335355101532352512?s=19

adaminho

TitianGerm wrote: »

I haven't seen it yet should the linesman not have seen it?

As the ball is kicked you can see him turn and sprint to keep up with the play.

NITRO95

Ye moan when we get penos and now we are supposed to do the assistant referees job for him as well. I think Utd should get credit for finding another creative way to annoy certain fans

RasTa

Agent Coulson wrote: »

They also didn’t see an Identical tackle in the Chelsea Leeds game to the one in the Brighton Liverpool that was a penalty last week however wasn’t one this week.


There is no consistency to VAR which was brought in to bring consistency.

That because the player stayed on his feet and got a shot away.

Tim Cahill was on MOTD praising the player for being honest and that's the way football should be played.

Complete rubbish, if he went down it was an instant peno

recyclops

Fitz* wrote: »

This clip from MOTD shows the ball was well out.

https://twitter.com/donhutch4/status/1335355101532352512?s=19

Love how the clip is cut before Gary says "we obviously added the ball in there"

doc_17

Looking forward to the North London derby today, think that it could be a good game even though Jose and Mikel are very defensive. Think Jose needs to win this type of game against a struggling opponent and of Mikel keeps going like he’s going he will come under even more pressure.

Shanotheslayer

Great finish there by West Brom,

The ball down the right side was very nice

Fitz*

The red card that WBA got is extremely daft IMO. Not a red for me.

Shanotheslayer

Fitz* wrote: »

The red card that WBAAg got is extremely daft IMO. Not a red for me.

Agree, I was looking for some sort of kick out and couldn't see anything