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General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,159 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    ongarite wrote: »
    That's as bad a handball decision as the Utd game last night.

    Keeper was off the line when he struck it too, more so than De Gea was.

    Comical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,857 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Keeper was off the line when he struck it too,

    Irrelevant if it's scored


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,019 ✭✭✭✭adox


    The new hand ball law is farcical. I can't see it lasting more than a season if that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    What I don't understand is how it gets out of committee. Any group of rational people discussing the introduction of this new rule would surely come to the conclusion "this is bull****!"


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    3rd game this weekend with 7 goals. Safe to say there won't be 7 when Brighton play Newcastle.

    Edit: 2 goals in 7 minutes.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    https://twitter.com/UtdLedger/status/1307443719734517760?s=19

    What was the reason that wasn't awarded?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    RasTa wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/UtdLedger/status/1307443719734517760?s=19

    What was the reason that wasn't awarded?

    Ref doesn't understand the new rule?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    ERG89 wrote: »
    3rd game this weekend with 7 goals. Safe to say there won't be 7 when Brighton play Newcastle.

    Edit: 2 goals in 7 minutes.....

    lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,612 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Just looking at maupay’s peno , do any GKs just stand their ground. They save loads !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Games gone mad. Neal Maupey with a 4 minute brace.

    How many penos is that so far? 5? 6?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Ref doesn't understand the new rule?

    Is the rule anytime it touches your hand, a peno?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Some things are unpredictable and other things, like Newcastle being under pressure, backs to the wall and Jonjoe Shelvey gets a needless yellow card are entirely predictable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    RasTa wrote: »
    Is the rule anytime it touches your hand, a peno?

    Thought that's what I heard them discussing last week anyway. But handball is only below the sleeve line now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,857 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    RasTa wrote: »
    Is the rule anytime it touches your hand, a peno?

    Only in the build-up to a goal, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

    they seem to have removed being too close, if that was ever a thing

    Except for the above offences, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:

    directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
    directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close (ok I just saw it now and really don't get the Utd decision)
    if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturally bigger
    when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭dmigsy


    Chelsea let Lamptey go for only £3M? Looks like a great player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Not sure who wins this game. Could be a goal fest.


    Either team wins could be challenging Everton for the title. :pac:


    In all seriousness I'm thinking 2-3 Liverpool


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    What a stupid decision to drag him down there, especially in that manner. Keeper probably had it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭This is it


    Not sure of my thoughts on the red, looks like Mane might have got a touch was he not brought down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Blatant Red


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Don't think this game is going to keep up the high scoring of pl games so far this season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    RasTa wrote: »
    What a stupid decision to drag him down there, especially in that manner. Keeper probably had it too.

    No don't think so, mane was flicking it past him. Stopped a definite goal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Blatant Red

    Yeah has to be. Zero attempt to play the ball. Deliberate and had he not done so it was a clear goalscoring opportunity as Mané was already goalside

    Will be disappointing if Liverpool fail to win from here but Chelsea are very well organised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    8-10 wrote: »
    Yeah has to be. Zero attempt to play the ball. Deliberate and had he not done so it was a clear goalscoring opportunity as Mané was already goalside

    Will be disappointing if Liverpool fail to win from here but Chelsea are very well organised.

    Am I right in saying if that was in the box it's just a yellow? As it's considered double penalizing? With that rule change a year or two ago?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭This is it


    Am I right in saying if that was in the box it's just a yellow? As it's considered double penalizing? With that rule change a year or two ago?

    That's my take on it, yes, just a yellow in the box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Am I right in saying if that was in the box it's just a yellow? As it's considered double penalizing? With that rule change a year or two ago?

    I think that's applies to a goalkeeper when it's not a professional foul

    So they can still attempt a stretching save in 1-on-1 situation and a foul is a yellow as it was a genuine attempt.

    Happy to be corrected but that was my recollection


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭Diggy78


    Am I right in saying if that was in the box it's just a yellow? As it's considered double penalizing? With that rule change a year or two ago?

    I think it would still have been red in that instance as there was no attempt to play the ball. Unsure if that's still the case though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    This is it wrote: »
    That's my take on it, yes, just a yellow in the box.
    8-10 wrote: »
    I think that's applies to a goalkeeper when it's not a professional foul

    So they can still attempt a stretching save in 1-on-1 situation and a foul is a yellow as it was a genuine attempt.

    Happy to be corrected but that was my recollection
    Diggy78 wrote: »
    I think it would still have been red in that instance as there was no attempt to play the ball. Unsure if that's still the case though

    Glad to see none of us have a clue and it's not just me :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Glad to see none of us have a clue and it's not just me :pac:

    If only there was some way to check and not just go off memory


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    You're Havertz a laugh....off at half time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Henderson might be injured but tactically it will work out a lot better having Thiago v 10 men Chelsea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭This is it


    Ah Jaysus :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    How bad is Kepa? He needs to leave Chelsea to rebuild his career.

    They'd be lucky to get £10m for him now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    At least Everton don't have the worst keeper in the league now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    At least Everton don't have the worst keeper in the league now.

    Top of the table and second worse keeper in the league.... Everything is coming up Everton :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Top of the table and second worse keeper in the league.... Everything is coming up Everton :pac:

    It's tough at the top :pac:

    Although with the GD Liverpool could get here we could be 2nd. We've bottled it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭wanderer100


    Kepa has to go down not only as one of the biggest flops but as one of the worst goalkeepers the premier league has ever seen.

    Just so so bad week in week out. Poor Willy on the bench :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Kante is not good enough to play further up the pitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Fabi has been excellent at CB today


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Kepa has to go down not only as one of the biggest flops but as one of the worst goalkeepers the premier league has ever seen.

    Just so so bad week in week out. Poor Willy on the bench :p

    Jan 2018 he nearly signs for Real Madrid for €17m which was his release clause at the time, before signing a new one for €80m

    Real then sign Courtois for ~€30m from Chelsea who then have to pay €80m for Kepa

    Worst deal in the history of deals, maybe ever


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If your primary penalty taker cant hit the ball with conviction, they shouldn't take them.

    Anyone can hit a weak side footer.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That was incredibly easy.

    Cannot see Chelsea winning the league or CL this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Never in doubt. Le Champions roll on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    At least Everton don't have the worst keeper in the league now.

    you just know we're all saving this for later. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    you just know we're all saving this for later. :)

    Gameweek 5 guaranteed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Chelsea are just a collection of very expensive bits right now, but they'll need to find cohesion pretty quickly or this season as a title tilt will be over before it's begun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Never in doubt. Le Champions roll on.

    Champions elect you could nearly say at this stage.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    I'm really looking forward to the beginning of the new season after that.

    Today's performance was excellent but obviously these pre-season training games don't give you the full picture.

    Roll on our first competitive game!


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Are ye guys just making up wierd narratives again or were Chelsea hotly tipped to win the league this year, short odds in the bookies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,880 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Lampard saying the red card was not a definite one for him, not sure about that one mate.


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