Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2020/2021 - see Mod Note in OP [18/11/20]

The_Kew_Tour

Francie Barrett wrote: »

The FAI really should have some sort of outreach program for Irish players outside of the UK and Ireland. Being 15 or 16 in a far-away, non-English speaking country is going to be tough for any kid.

Great idea.

Sadly it's the FAI we are talking about here....

FLOOPER

What about Bamford. Qualifies through grandmother.

Played U-18 for us 2010. Don’t think he has a senior Engkish cap.

He’s 27 has about two International Championships left in him and don’t think he’ll be picked by Southgate. Well hope not.

Very tidy player with excellent finishing skills who links up really well. Poor finishing last night tho.

Reminds me of a decent K Doyle but better finisher.

Thoughts???

Apologies if suggested before.

~Rebel~

FLOOPER wrote: »

What about Bamford. Qualifies through grandmother.

Played U-18 for us 2010. Don’t think he has a senior Engkish cap.

He’s 27 has about two International Championships left in him and don’t think he’ll be picked by Southgate. Well hope not.

Very tidy player with excellent finishing skills who links up really well. Poor finishing last night tho.

Reminds me of a decent K Doyle but better finisher.

Thoughts???

Was already pursued at length, they tried to get him to commit 2 years ago, and he backed away. That ship has sailed I’d say.

Pawwed Rig

Bamford has no interest in playing for Ireland. He is hoping for an England cap and has a chance of getting one at this stage. And good luck to him

Brock Turnpike

sugarman wrote: »

Callum O'Dowda made his return from injury this afternoon lining out for Bristol Citys u23s. He had been out since December with a torn hamstring.

Gives him a chance to make the squad for end of the month hopefully.

Banjaxed82

sugarman wrote: »

Came through 66 minutes unscathed, will probably be enough to make the bench this weekend.

Sad state of affairs though. An average footballer who hasn't played since before the new year, yet given the state of our forward line, there's a good chance he'll be making the starting 11 assuming he gets 2 or 3 appearances under his belt before Serbia.

The_Kew_Tour

It’s a worry alright. Not optimistic at all.

Brock Turnpike

sugarman wrote: »

Just read there, the squad is set to be named on the 18th March.

Holy God. Nursing a hangover and having to read through that squad could be very rough for people

Francie Barrett

Parrott dropped Singled out for some criticism in the press from the manager. "Working hard in all the wrong areas". Apparently.

All the other Ipswich loanees dropped as well. Maybe Paul Cook doesn't like loan players.

The_Kew_Tour

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Parrott dropped Singled out for some criticism in the press from the manager. "Working hard in all the wrong areas". Apparently.

All the other Ipswich loanees dropped as well. Maybe Paul Cook doesn't like loan players.

Not too sure. The comments I read were fairly positive just that he young, must he protected, but also needs be managed better.

Francie Barrett

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Not too sure. The comments I read were fairly positive just that he young, must he protected, but also needs be managed better.

I don't know. Would you criticise a 19 year player in public before dropping him after just one game in charge? Seems like crappy management to me. I see Ipswich are getting beaten 1-0 already. Hopefully they get stuffed today.

Ipswich have problems, Parrott is far from being close to the first of them.

The_Kew_Tour

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I don't know. Would you criticise a 19 year player in public before dropping him after just one game in charge? Seems like crappy management to me. I see Ipswich are getting beaten 1-0 already. Hopefully they get stuffed today.

Ipswich have problems, Parrott is far from being close to the first of them.

Fair point. I must see if can get that on video I'm just taking comments I read but I might got context wrong. Losing 1-0 last time I checked

~Rebel~

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I don't know. Would you criticise a 19 year player in public before dropping him after just one game in charge? Seems like crappy management to me. I see Ipswich are getting beaten 1-0 already. Hopefully they get stuffed today.

Ipswich have problems, Parrott is far from being close to the first of them.

Hadn't even realised Paul Lambert is gone... not ideal for a young lad on loan there alright.

Tonight would be a bloody great time for him to score off the bench if Lambert goes looking to him for a late goal!

Francie Barrett

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Hadn't even realised Paul Lambert is gone... not ideal for a young lad on loan there alright.

Tonight would be a bloody great time for him to score off the bench if Lambert goes looking to him for a late goal!

Parrott and Judge on at the 60 minute mark.

johnnyryan89

See Shane Duffy's mam took to Twitter last night to highlight more personal abuse he's received again this week. You gotta wonder where this lads head currently is with all this abuse, how his career has gone lately and the death of his father, which the scum are using to abuse him.

eire4

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

See Shane Duffy's mam took to Twitter last night to highlight more personal abuse he's received again this week. You gotta wonder where this lads head currently is with all this abuse, how his career has gone lately and the death of his father, which the scum are using to abuse him.

He does seem to be suffering badly. It is just disgusting to see the lack of support he gets as well.
I know Duffy isn't playing in the epl at the moment but every time I hear the commentators at the epl games say its against "all" forms of racism when players take a knee before kick off I find myself adding in except Irish racism thats still ok.

pgj2015

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

See Shane Duffy's mam took to Twitter last night to highlight more personal abuse he's received again this week. You gotta wonder where this lads head currently is with all this abuse, how his career has gone lately and the death of his father, which the scum are using to abuse him.

I cant understand why footballers are on twitter, especially ones who get abuse for their religion/race etc. its like alcoholics who keep drinking, its not doing you any good but you cant stop. If I was in their position I would just delete all social media and laugh to myself about these small minded losers on twitter, he is the one living a great life, why worry about what some bigot thinks?

Youd want to be fairly brittle to read these abusive messages and let them get to you.

Its just some 15 year old saying baseless and repetitive remarks.
I include the black players in that as well, baseless words should only be laughed at.

The type of abuse that hurts is that which is deeply personal and comes from people close to you.
I'd laugh at any of the stuff these pros get from some little teenager trying to show off.

topmanamillion

pgj2015 wrote: »

I cant understand why footballers are on twitter, especially ones who get abuse for their religion/race etc. its like alcoholics who keep drinking, its not doing you any good but you cant stop. If I was in their position I would just delete all social media and laugh to myself about these small minded losers on twitter, he is the one living a great life, why worry about what some bigot thinks?

And when those same people post abusive letters to players houses they should just tape their letterbox shut because they're living a great life.

People like Duffy and McLean should be able to have social media accounts without being abused just because they're a public figure.

They need to get a lot more support than they are getting. And that should come from FIFA/UEFA/FAs and the public plus the likes of Twitter and Facebook are multi billion dollar companies, if the will was there they could bury this stuff in the morning.
Eventually the wrong player will be targeted with a very bad outcome.

~Rebel~

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Youd want to be fairly brittle to read these abusive messages and let them get to you.

Its just some 15 year old saying baseless and repetitive remarks.
I include the black players in that as well, baseless words should only be laughed at.

The type of abuse that hurts is that which is deeply personal and comes from people close to you.
I'd laugh at any of the stuff these pros get from some little teenager trying to show off.

I daresay that's a very easy opinion to have when you're not in their shoes.

Pawwed Rig

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I daresay that's a very easy opinion to have when you're not in their shoes.

Anyone with a tiktok or instagram account gets these types of messages. There is even one Irish guy whose whole account revolves around responding to trolls. Why are footballers such delicate snowflakes? They seem to want a level of protection that the general public just don't get yet they are the ones that have the resources to actually do something about it.

~Rebel~

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Anyone with a tiktok or instagram account gets these types of messages. There is even one Irish guy whose whole account revolves around responding to trolls. Why are footballers such delicate snowflakes? They seem to want a level of protection that the general public just don't get yet they are the ones that have the resources to actually do something about it.

Well that’s just not even remotely true for starters anyway.

And I dare say the sheer volume and specificity of the abuse players get is significantly higher than what some random dude gets.

I’m not sure why you see yourself in a position to say what does and doesn’t effect other people... I can completely imagine that getting a continuous deluge of personal abuse would be horrible - especially if connected to things like your race, which you just dismissed out of hand in your earlier post.

Also a bit interesting that you choose to use a fairly cemented right-wing put down for them.

Bridge93

Don't know too many members of the 'general public' who get endless abuse for doing their job

johnnyryan89

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Anyone with a tiktok or instagram account gets these types of messages. There is even one Irish guy whose whole account revolves around responding to trolls. Why are footballers such delicate snowflakes? They seem to want a level of protection that the general public just don't get yet they are the ones that have the resources to actually do something about it.

Yes clearly he's a massive snowflake because peopling mocking the death of his father and best friend, whose not even dead 12 months is upsetting.

~Rebel~

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I daresay that's a very easy opinion to have when you're not in their shoes.

Ah will you come off it.

It's usually some pathetic stuff littered with spelling mistakes.

"You fenian ****, I hope your Da dies and you're burned in a fire".

If you're going to get upset from receiving messages like that youd seriously want to toughen up.

I'd laugh at those types of messages. If you were getting messages that pointed to them taking it beyond baseless abuse I'd agree(describing your house, car in detail etc).

In the message he shared it was the former, the ramblings of a 15 year old.

Pawwed Rig

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Yes clearly he's a massive snowflake because peopling mocking the death of his father and best friend, whose not even dead 12 months is upsetting.

Just turn it off. If it is coming to your house or family that is one thing but on a platform like twitter just don't go there. Plenty of tiktok guys appear on my feed being told to go back where they came from and racially abused (these are guys living in Ireland and the abuse is coming from Irish people). They don't sit there crying about it. They just take it as the ramblings of morons which is exactly what footballers should do. The only reason Ian Wright got to court was because he was famous. If he was an ordinary member of the public without resources then it would never have gone anywhere.

glenjamin

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Ah will you come off it.

It's usually some pathetic stuff littered with spelling mistakes.

"You fenian ****, I hope your Da dies and you're burned in a fire".

If you're going to get upset from receiving messages like that youd seriously want to toughen up.

I'd laugh at those types of messages. If you were getting messages that pointed to them taking it beyond baseless abuse I'd agree(describing your house, car in detail etc).

In the message he shared it was the former, the ramblings of a 15 year old.

Nobody deserves to get abuse like they do. You have zero idea how that may affect them mentally. Not everyone is able to ignore it and just brush it off. You'd laugh it off? ****ing tough guy aren't you? It's people like you that are part of the problem.

johnnyryan89

https://twitter.com/TRFCNextGen/status/1369921256078925827

Good thread on Lee O'Connor. Wouldn't mind seeing him playing as the number 6 for the U21s, but they also have Conor Coventry and Luca Connell to play as the 6. Tranmere are playing Sunderland in the cup final on Sunday and might see O'Connor playing against McGeady which could be his toughest test this season.

~Rebel~

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Just turn it off. If it is coming to your house or family that is one thing but on a platform like twitter just don't go there. Plenty of tiktok guys appear on my feed being told to go back where they came from and racially abused (these are guys living in Ireland and the abuse is coming from Irish people). They don't sit there crying about it. They just take it as the ramblings of morons which is exactly what footballers should do. The only reason Ian Wright got to court was because he was famous. If he was an ordinary member of the public without resources then it would never have gone anywhere.

I don’t understand this post at all... you’re pointing out behaviour that is abhorrent and that no-one should have to deal with... and saying it’s grand and the right thing to do is just soak it up and get on with it?

It’s also madness to think everyone deals and reacts to things the same way. You seem actively annoyed that someone could be upset by a deluge of personal abuse, regardless of its source.

Yeah, someone can delete it and shut their ears, but that’s not fixing the actual problems in any way. It’s right that it’s talked about.

And as an aside from all that, people like social media. I enjoy Instagram, or even boards, a lot and would be really annoyed to be forced off by some assholes targeting me. And of course beyond that, social media is a hefty revenue stream for pros.

TheCitizen

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Ah will you come off it.

It's usually some pathetic stuff littered with spelling mistakes.

"You fenian ****, I hope your Da dies and you're burned in a fire".

If you're going to get upset from receiving messages like that youd seriously want to toughen up.

I'd laugh at those types of messages. If you were getting messages that pointed to them taking it beyond baseless abuse I'd agree(describing your house, car in detail etc).

In the message he shared it was the former, the ramblings of a 15 year old.

It's not a question of "toughening up" why should players have to put up with such nonsense. If the little dweeb that sent the message is identifiable they should face charges, like that kid in Kerry was it that inexplicably got away with sending abuse to Ian Wright after facing charges. He should have been hit with a conviction. I don't get the logic of your point, you're not making much sense.

TheCitizen

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Well that’s just not even remotely true for starters anyway.

And I dare say the sheer volume and specificity of the abuse players get is significantly higher than what some random dude gets.

I’m not sure why you see yourself in a position to say what does and doesn’t effect other people... I can completely imagine that getting a continuous deluge of personal abuse would be horrible - especially if connected to things like your race, which you just dismissed out of hand in your earlier post.

Also a bit interesting that you choose to use a fairly cemented right-wing put down for them.

Tell tale throwaway remark there.

Ferris_Bueller

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TRFCNextGen/status/1369921256078925827

Good thread on Lee O'Connor. Wouldn't mind seeing him playing as the number 6 for the U21s, but they also have Conor Coventry and Luca Connell to play as the 6. Tranmere are playing Sunderland in the cup final on Sunday and might see O'Connor playing against McGeady which could be his toughest test this season.

Good to hear he is getting on well at Tranmere, he was one I thought had a great chance of turning out to be a decent player but all went very quiet the last year or so, hadn't heard much of how he was getting on at Tranmere. We are in no rush for him to come good (unlike some of the forwards who can't come quick enough) so hopefully he gets another good loan move next season at maybe L1 or SPL level.

eire4

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I don’t understand this post at all... you’re pointing out behaviour that is abhorrent and that no-one should have to deal with... and saying it’s grand and the right thing to do is just soak it up and get on with it?

It’s also madness to think everyone deals and reacts to things the same way. You seem actively annoyed that someone could be upset by a deluge of personal abuse, regardless of its source.

Yeah, someone can delete it and shut their ears, but that’s not fixing the actual problems in any way. It’s right that it’s talked about.

And as an aside from all that, people like social media. I enjoy Instagram, or even boards, a lot and would be really annoyed to be forced off by some assholes targeting me. And of course beyond that, social media is a hefty revenue stream for pros.

Very well said. I have to say also in a general sense facebook and twitter and of course Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg personally have a lot to answer for. For years now have shown no willingness to self regulate. It is high time they were regulated in a fashion similar to say regular media to stop the revolting level of disgusting behaviour which is basically allowed to run amuck on their platforms.

ScummyMan

https://twitter.com/manunitedzone_/status/1370088933883834368?s=21

Irish flag on his wrist? Get him on the blower Kenny

eire4

ScummyMan wrote: »

https://twitter.com/manunitedzone_/status/1370088933883834368?s=21

Irish flag on his wrist? Get him on the blower Kenny

He is from the Ivory coast!

alchemist33

eire4 wrote: »

He is from the Ivory coast!

[Wolfcastle]"Thats the joke"[/Wolfcastle]

The_Kew_Tour

Mcgoldrick not coming back

franglan

sugarman wrote: »

Also Kenny confirmed in the above Q&A that Nathan Redmond and Callum O'Hare are not eligible having followed it up. Both are a generation out.

He also mentioned that they have been in contact with Liam Delap.

Thought Redmond's mother was a Dub?

henke

sugarman wrote: »

Also Kenny confirmed in the above Q&A that Nathan Redmond and Callum O'Hare are not eligible having followed it up. Both are a generation out.

He also mentioned that they have been in contact with Liam Delap.

I thought Redmond's mother was Irish and when McCarthy approached him in the past I would have thought it would be have been flagged then but anyway had discounted him ever playing for us. O'Hare one disappointing but fair enough. I'm sure he would have been involved before now if possible so at least there is an explanation.

AhhHere

sugarman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/McDonnellDan/status/1370108340873932800

Very worrying. Leaves us with just Bazuna, Travers and O'Hara. 3 very inexperienced keepers, only one of which is playing week in/out.

How did people hear of this event? I'm on FAI comms/season ticket and didnt see it...

Francie Barrett

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/blow-for-ireland-as-darren-randolph-ruled-out-of-opening-world-cup-qualifiers-40186703.html

In the course of a lengthy session, Kenny reserved special praise for Josh Cullen, who has excelled at Anderlecht and will be definitely be in the squad that is named next Thursday.

"I watched a good bit of him with Charlton and really feel he's taken his game up a level," said Kenny. "He's more progressive in his passing looking forward. He's shown great dynamism. The games are very open, it's a very athletic league, they're not tactical cagey affairs.

"What I like about it is that he's really embraced the opportunity to go there and shown a determination to do well."

Alan Browne was also hailed for his recent displays at Preston, while chief scout Ruaidhri Higgins will watch the in-form Sunderland attacker Aiden McGeady in Sunday's Football League Trophy final against Tranmere.

Aiden O'Brien and Lee O'Connor will also feature in that game and Kenny did not give the impression that a recall for the Glaswegian was imminent, noting the difference in levels between the Championship and League One.

AhhHere

sugarman wrote: »

It was an exclusive event to media and members of supports club, it was very limited numbers. It was done over Zoom so would have been chaos if it was a free for all!

Thanks. Makes sense. I caught a recording so will go through that.

Nunu

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12243237/alan-judge-ipswich-midfielder-disputes-referee-darren-drysdales-account-of-confrontation

Ref that squared up to Alan Judge said at his hearing that Judge called him a cheat and a bald cûnt. Judge not happy and put out a statement refuting it and claims Ipswich have audio proving this.

johnnyryan89

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Good to hear he is getting on well at Tranmere, he was one I thought had a great chance of turning out to be a decent player but all went very quiet the last year or so, hadn't heard much of how he was getting on at Tranmere. We are in no rush for him to come good (unlike some of the forwards who can't come quick enough) so hopefully he gets another good loan move next season at maybe L1 or SPL level.

O'Connor could to be a late bloomer IMO. His football intelligence has always been second to none, but his size could be an issue at times until he develops a bit more. Hopefully he gets a run out with Celtics seniors next season, his versatility would be good to have as a squad player, and he'd probably have been more suited to play CB for Celtic than Shane Duffy was.

Wouldn't mind seeing him in the squad for Qatar, especially with the U19s Euros cancelled again this year, unless Crawford wants to use his him somewhere other than RB like they did at the U19s Euros two years ago. The U21s are only playing a friendly and the U19's have lads who'd be pushing for places with the U21s and are now overage for the U19s.

Ferris_Bueller

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

O'Connor could to be a late bloomer IMO. His football intelligence has always been second to none, but his size could be an issue at times until he develops a bit more. Hopefully he gets a run out with Celtics seniors next season, his versatility would be good to have as a squad player, and he'd probably have been more suited to play CB for Celtic than Shane Duffy was.

Wouldn't mind seeing him in the squad for Qatar, especially with the U19s Euros cancelled again this year, unless Crawford wants to use his him somewhere other than RB like they did at the U19s Euros two years ago. The U21s are only playing a friendly and the U19's have lads who'd be pushing for places with the U21s and are now overage for the U19s.

I'd say/hope you could be right about O'Connor, generally a lot of our players are late bloomers who have to drop down the leagues and work their way back up. Thinking of Hourihane, Stevens, Egan as some of the higher profile ones in the team at the minute. It's rare that we get a player who breaks into a PL or top Championship team at a young age and stays at that level. I suppose we are hoping that will be the case with a few of the current lads coming through.

Cartman78

Well lads....have an Elverys voucher burning a hole in my pocket here and was looking at picking up a long sleeve home jersey which are on sale atm.

Haven't bought an Umbro jersey before so no 100% on sizing....for reference I would be a Medium in Addidas jerseys and Small in O'Neills.

Cheers cm

johnnyryan89

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

I'd say/hope you could be right about O'Connor, generally a lot of our players are late bloomers who have to drop down the leagues and work their way back up. Thinking of Hourihane, Stevens, Egan as some of the higher profile ones in the team at the minute. It's rare that we get a player who breaks into a PL or top Championship team at a young age and stays at that level. I suppose we are hoping that will be the case with a few of the current lads coming through.

More than just hoping, and that's probably a big issue and will lead to pressure being applied to the younger lads.

And speaking of Stevens and Egan, they'll have a new manger to impress next season with Chris Wilder leaving Sheffield United.

Pawwed Rig

Cartman78 wrote: »

Well lads....have an Elverys voucher burning a hole in my pocket here and was looking at picking up a long sleeve home jersey which are on sale atm.

Haven't bought an Umbro jersey before so no 100% on sizing....for reference I would be a Medium in Addidas jerseys and Small in O'Neills.

Cheers cm

How tall are you and what weight?
I'm 5'11 slim build and medium is grand on me.

Cartman78

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

How tall are you and what weight?
I'm 5'11 slim build and medium is grand on me.

Cheers lads...sounds like a Medium so....if I was on CrimeCall I'd be described as approximately 6ft with an athletic build :-)

Nice to have an international jersey without a poxy sponsor logo

henke

Definitely a medium I'd say. I'm M in most clothes and small in O'Neill's also who seem to have odd fits.