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Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    So you're stating your opinion then, and not fact?

    Has the virus not been in circulation since last year?
    Have people not been circulating around the country on stacaytion?
    Have kids not been out playing on the streets with their friends?
    Were people not wear masks a few months ago?
    Have people not been going to pubs, clubs restaurants, work, etc etc

    I could go on but why don't you tell me what would it take for me to convince you that the majority or "large portion", if you want to be semantic, of the population has been exposed? Let me guess a "peer reviewed" something something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,270 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    I could go on but why don't you tell me what would it take for me to convince you that the majority or "large portion", if you want to be semantic, of the population has been exposed? Let me guess a "peer reviewed" something something.

    Something from a reputable source other than a single anonymous individual on a discussion form. Not asking a lot surely.


  • Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You don't think that's a bit over the top?

    Taking a hotel lift? Well it's a pretty enclosed space and who knows if the last person sneezed before you got in. Water droplets hanging in the air and all that.


  • Site Banned Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Denny61


    To put it simply, if almost nobody has the virus, and almost nobody is getting sick and or dying that suggests that the virus is not that deadly.

    Almost nobody has it
    Almost nobody is getting sick
    Almost nobody is dying

    Why do we have these restrictions???

    Thats a simplistic way of looking at it .First of all half the population could have covid .and we would not know..cos *a" we are not testing those people and b..they could be asymptomatic and have it.and carrying on as if they are covid free..so that is why restrictions are necessary to avoid others getting it ...this virus even though you may have it and feel fine showing no symptoms will in a lot of people take its toll further down the road..as its in your system and starting to get to know your cell structure and all your organs in a not very nice way..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    deisedevil wrote: »
    Oh hello professor of immunology. Remind me where I can find your study on the Covid herd immunity population percentage. The first of it's kind seeing as no one else has figured this out yet.

    Alot of people have figured it out but your problem is that you just tune into what your told with little or no rational thinking for yourself. Many doctors, professors are calling out this BS.

    You can start here. the UK National Statistic Office. I though the Uk was supposed to be in worse shape than us?



    https://twitter.com/ONS/status/1296734763286515715?s=20


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  • Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To put it simply, if almost nobody has the virus, and almost nobody is getting sick and or dying that suggests that the virus is not that deadly.

    Almost nobody has it
    Almost nobody is getting sick
    Almost nobody is dying

    Why do we have these restrictions???

    The deadliness of the virus would be determined by the amount of people who obtain the virus vs,. how many die from it.

    By your understanding, the Ebola virus isn't very deadly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Has the virus not been in circulation since last year?
    Have people not been circulating around the country on stacaytion?
    Have kids not been out playing on the streets with their friends?
    Were people not wear masks a few months ago?
    Have people not been going to pubs, clubs restaurants, work, etc etc

    I could go on but why don't you tell me what would it take for me to convince you that the majority or "large portion", if you want to be semantic, of the population has been exposed? Let me guess a "peer reviewed" something something.

    Pesky peer reviewed research getting in the way of ill informed opinions again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    Well i'll be having a few pints later in the local, with no food.
    Happy days and i'm sure there is hundreds of thousands like me in the country.
    Happy i'm not a hypocrite and calling for these people's heads like the others, who i'm sure are also breaking rules in a small way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,896 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    He knew he had to go or else MM would have said everything was fine this afternoon and fired him at 10 o’clock tonight.

    It must have been some snoozefest with the crowd that was at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Has the virus not been in circulation since last year?
    Have people not been circulating around the country on stacaytion?
    Have kids not been out playing on the streets with their friends?
    Were people not wear masks a few months ago?
    Have people not been going to pubs, clubs restaurants, work, etc etc

    I could go on but why don't you tell me what would it take for me to convince you that the majority or "large portion", if you want to be semantic, of the population has been exposed? Let me guess a "peer reviewed" something something.
    Don't forget the house parties that went on all over the country during the St Patrick's weekend and the Easter holiday after pubs were closed on March 12th.
    Are people so deluded that they think house parties are a recent development?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    deisedevil wrote: »
    Pesky peer reviewed research getting in the way of ill informed opinions again.

    Do you accept NPHET's daily figures or do you need those to be peer reviewed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    The deadliness of the virus would be determined by the amount of people who obtain the virus vs,. how many die from it.

    By your understanding, the Ebola virus isn't very deadly.

    Explain that again, a virus is only deadly if you don't die??? So a virus is only considered deadly by the number of people who catch it as opposed to die from it?

    That makes no sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Alot of people have figured it out but your problem is that you just tune into what your told with little or no rational thinking for yourself. Many doctors, professors are calling out this BS.

    You can start here. the UK National Statistic Office. I though the Uk was supposed to be in worse shape than us?



    https://twitter.com/ONS/status/1296734763286515715?s=20

    Are you not then just tuning into what your told?

    As in, i've done a good bit of reading into it and the consensus is that no one is sure yet what the percentage of population for herd immunity. Did you see the experts on prime time from Ireland and Sweden agreeing on just that. So I'm tuning into what I'm told by the general consensus of the foremost experts on the matter. You've just fired up stats from the statistics office. Show me the proof that Ireland now has herd immunity. You can't, because you haven't a clue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭ronano


    So you're stating your opinion then, and not fact?

    No doubt it's "common sense"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Do you accept NPHET's daily figures or do you need those to be peer reviewed?
    Peer review just validates the methodology of research not that the conclusion is right or wrong. We do know they use the very old ancient and well validated method of addition.


  • Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Explain that again, a virus is only deadly if you don't die??? So a virus is only considered deadly by the number of people who catch it as opposed to die from it?

    That makes no sense.

    That isn't what I said at all. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Do you accept NPHET's daily figures or do you need those to be peer reviewed?

    You don't know what peer reviewed means.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Something from a reputable source other than a single anonymous individual on a discussion form. Not asking a lot surely.

    What specifically do you need. What scientific research would it take for me to convince you, do you want peer reviewed data on the number of people who went on holiday and contact tracing data to back that up peer reviewed by a professor in immunology or could you just try using logic and reason for five seconds and stop trying to be so invested in your online position?

    The facts are that very few people are getting sick and dying from this virus. My understanding of an epidemic was when a lot of people got really sick and died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,322 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Ouch! Dose of very cold water thrown over Paul Murphy on NT there regarding the notion that Hogan or Wolfe will be going anywhere


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭eggy81


    This is where I think the Tories & Cummings have got it right. Their attitude is:-

    "Fcuk the lot of you and so what if there a few indiscretions here and there. What are you going to do about it?"

    Ignore all the noise from the chattering classes because that is all this is ultimately. A lot of noise.

    This will all be forgotten about this time next week. Move on to the next "furious" key board slamming outrage.
    Yes. Exactly. Let the entitled shower of **** do exactly what they like. And pay them like royalty to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,270 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    What specifically do you need. What scientific research would it take for me to convince you, do you want peer reviewed data on the number of people who went on holiday and contact tracing data to back that up peer reviewed by a professor in immunology or could you just try using logic and reason for five seconds and stop trying to be so invested in your online position?

    The facts are that very few people are getting sick and dying from this virus. My understanding of an epidemic was when a lot of people got really sick and died.

    G'luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,407 ✭✭✭Allinall


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Ouch! Dose of very cold water thrown over Paul Murphy on NT there regarding the notion that Hogan or Wolfe will be going anywhere

    Had to laugh at PM.

    The political establishment this and that. Blah blah. Disgraceful. Blah blah

    Does he not realize he’s part of the political establishment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭Acosta


    I hope this recent phenomenon of a large proportion of the general public and media demanding accountability when a politician screws up continues beyond the pandemic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭Liamo57


    This event was organised by FF's Donie Cassidy and attended by a lot of Westmeath senators and councillors. The level of conversation at the tables would be of a very high intellectual content involving Greek Mythology, Anthropology and the chances of St. Lomans winning this years Westmeath junior B final.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭Liamo57


    This event was organised by FF's Donie Cassidy and attended by a lot of Westmeath senators and councillors. The level of conversation at the tables would be of a very high intellectual content involving Greek Mythology, Anthropology and the chances of St. Lomans winning this years Westmeath junior B final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,655 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Well i'll be having a few pints later in the local, with no food.
    Happy days and i'm sure there is hundreds of thousands like me in the country.
    Happy i'm not a hypocrite and calling for these people's heads like the others, who i'm sure are also breaking rules in a small way.

    You might get to see those new emergency powers first hand, have fun.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    Acosta wrote: »
    I hope this recent phenomenon of a large proportion of the general public and media demanding accountability when a politician screws up continues beyond the pandemic.

    It's frightening when you think of the countries general view in relation to many things, killing unborn babies, sinn fein ect


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Does anyone honestly see either a judge or that leech hogan let go their grasp of their comfy salaried.


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