Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

FrancieBrady

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Why would it be under embargo?

Good question. Are they handing out scoops as favours to journalists?

tayto lover

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I can't believe this is happening in the Silly Season. It's great entertainment altogether.

I really thought it would be buried after Calleary resigned (before he was pushed). As a nation we do love the political shenanigans don't we.

Irish politics is the gift that keeps on giving.

Fann Linn

maestroamado wrote: »

Best option all party Government or carry on as we are until Covid settles...

Any opposition party would be crazy to go anywhere near this freak show.

maestroamado

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Government press release states 'strict embargo' until midnight, no idea why

Because the date of resignation tomorrow i expect.
If it announced now look like sacked...

Hawthorn Tree

Government wont fall over this.

Spanish Eyes

gifted wrote: »

Will the supreme judge go as well?...I still don't think hogan will go that easy

Interesting question about the SC Judge. I don't know, but I agree that Big Phil might not go so easily either, but we shall see.

And all for a round of golf and beef or salmon.

Paddygreen

smelly sock wrote: »

How come Meehole couldnt exoress an opinion on the judiciary but FF members can go off and play golf with them and drink pints.

That’s called statesmanship.the courts and the political class are independent from each other in our vibrant democracy.

Edgware

maestroamado wrote: »

She was right to go as once she fallows Airline, Spanish rules while there and Irish rules on return all ok...

One rule for the Shinners as usual

ACitizenErased

maestroamado wrote: »

Because the date of resignation tomorrow i expect.
If it announced now look like sacked...

The embargo applies to the dail being recalled, has nothing to do with hogan

banie01

maestroamado wrote: »

Best option all party Government or carry on as we are until Covid settles...

I agree that an all party government is probably the least disruptive and dangerous outcome.

Thing is, I honestly don't see anyone wanting to be seen to prop up FFG on the left.
A return to the polls will likely wipe out FF and the green bounce will be slapped down hard.

FF have managed to make FG led government seem like a golden time of competence, when it was anything but.

M.Martin has been shown up to be both incompetent and an astonishingly poor party leader let alone Taoseaich in just a couple of months in Government.

The level of vitriol and disgust that the #golfgate has triggered is staggering.
The goodwill of the people is evaporating and Martin is not the leader to regain it IMO.

Coillte_Bhoy

maestroamado wrote: »

Because the date of resignation tomorrow i expect.
If it announced now look like sacked...

What? Embargo is till midnight

the purple tin

We have put up with a lot from our government in this country over the years but this is the straw that broke the camel's back I think.
Hopefully elected representatives will have a bit more cop-on in the future and remember that they are supposed to be working for us and looking out for our interests, or else... remember Golfgate?

maestroamado

Fann Linn wrote: »

Any opposition party would be crazy to go anywhere near this freak show.

There has not being opposition in Irish policits for years, confidence and supply, now this 3 way coalition ans SF have nothing constructive to say about anything. Recall the Dail just window dressing to stay as is...

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

Goddam it! I was close enough.

All together now.

♫ ♫Rock the boat, rock the boat
Work the middle, work the middle baby♫ ♫

Spanish Eyes

And to think that at one point the majority were on message, doing all the right things, no funerals, no weddings, no gatherings no nothing, was very tough for many.

Respect is gone as is credibility now. And the rent a crowd are out on the streets too. We need a head or two or three on the guillotine now.

And then, whew, back to the schools reopening next week and it starts all over again.

Has anyone seen or heard Norma Foley since her appointment. Sorry to drag things off topic. Ignore if you want.

Coillte_Bhoy

banie01 wrote: »

I agree that an all party government is probably the least disruptive and dangerous outcome.

Thing is, I honestly don't see anyone wanting to be seen to prop up FFG on the left.
A return to the polls will likely wipe out FF and the green bounce will be slapped down hard.

FF have managed to make FG led government seem like a golden time of competence, when it was anything but.

M.Martin has been shown up to be both incompetent and an astonishingly poor party leader let alone Taoseaich in just a couple of months in Government.

The level of vitriol and disgust that the #golfgate has triggered is staggering.
The goodwill of the people is evaporating and Martin is not the leader to regain it IMO.

National govt would be a disaster, this is as near as we have come to one and look at it? Fg behaving disgracefully, throw SF, Lab etc into the mix and what have you? Not sure the Greens would suffer too much either in an election

Coillte_Bhoy

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

And to think that at one point the majority were on message, doing all the right things, no funerals, no weddings, no gatherings no nothing, was very tough for many.

Respect is gone as is credibility now. And the rent a crowd are out on the streets too. We need a head or two or three on the guillotine now.

And then, whew, back to the schools reopening next week and it starts all over again.

Has anyone seen or heard Norma Foley since her appointment. Sorry to drag things off topic. Ignore if you want.

Shes been fairly active in media last few days

Spanish Eyes

McMurphy wrote: »

All together now.

♫ ♫Rock the boat, rock the boat
Work the middle, work the middle baby♫ ♫

Thanks for the laugh, badly needed. :P

Gerry Hatrick

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Government wont fall over this.

You are wrong you know. They won't make Xmas

Hawthorn Tree

The biggest problem is that the government has completely lost the moral high ground in relation to Covid restrictions.
It will be very difficult for the government to regain the confidence and trust of the public. Their credibility is in tatters.

Hawthorn Tree

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

You are wrong you know. They won't make Xmas

I am never wrong. Christmas is 124 days away!!

ACitizenErased

A lot saying the government won't last but how can they possibly hold a general election now? I don't think NPHET would be fond of the idea.

Spanish Eyes

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

The biggest problem is that the government has completely lost the moral high ground in relation to Covid restrictions.
It will be very difficult for the government to regain the confidence and trust of the public. Their credibility is in tatters.

Agree, but to be fair, most people will observe restrictions to protect their loved ones and families, they rely on that.

It's the rent a crowd who won't and probably never did anyway.

maestroamado

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

National govt would be a disaster, this is as near as we have come to one and look at it? Fg behaving disgracefully, throw SF, Lab etc into the mix and what have you? Not sure the Greens would suffer too much either in an election

I totally agree with what you say.
I was just thinking of National Government until Covid allows go to the polls.

seligehgit

ACitizenErased wrote: »

A lot saying the government won't last but how can they possibly hold a general election now? I don't think NPHET would be fond of the idea.

No chance of a general election.

ShamNNspace

ACitizenErased wrote: »

A lot saying the government won't last but how can they possibly hold a general election now? I don't think NPHET would be fond of the idea.

Matters not one jot whether NPHET would be fond of it or not, democracy innit

McMurphy

ACitizenErased wrote: »

A lot saying the government won't last but how can they possibly hold a general election now? I don't think NPHET would be fond of the idea.

This govt override NPHET anytime it bloody well suits them FFS. Wonder what NPHET thought about Clifden?

banie01

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

National govt would be a disaster, this is as near as we have come to one and look at it? Fg behaving disgracefully, throw SF, Lab etc into the mix and what have you? Not sure the Greens would suffer too much either in an election

It's curious the one main party you didn't mention?
As for this being the closest we've been? No, it's not we've had the rainbow coalition of 94-97 that was of a similar make-up.

FG's disgraceful behaviour is quite calculated, as the fallout isn't blowing back on them.
SF, why make any noise at all when the Govt are making all the mistakes needed to make them appear a viable alternative without their needing to utter a word.

I'd hazard the greens will suffer the usual fate of the junior party when election comes.
Eamon Ryan's snooze in the Dail won't win many repeat votes.

FrancieBrady

seligehgit wrote: »

No chance of a general election.

Plenty saying a few hours ago that there was no chance of Hogan going...he has been asked to go by leaders and exposed as a liar.
A lock of hours is a long time in politics.

Spanish Eyes

And it all started with Failte Ireland man going abroad. No going back from that.