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Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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    #2702
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    In fairness it wasn't the typical "sorry for the offence caused" non-apology, apology. He did acknowledge his failings, so for a political apology it was unusual.

    Agreed it was carefully crafted and issued once he had time to consider the backlash and see if he could brazen it out. He had a chance before today to do it honestly and honourably.

    I stick by my opinion, it's a PR consultant crafted exercise hitting all the expected hot spot points. Insincere ... and designed to answer the growing momentum for him to address his first car crash 'nothing to see here' statement.


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    #2703
    Hawthorn Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Hawthorn Tree


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Just in - the EU responding to RTE asking if Hogan will be resigning.
    "No".

    It's a priceless story. MM and Leo ask him to go and HE gives our leaders the 2 fingers. The 3 of them look weak.


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    #2704
    is_that_so
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    I think you're being overly cynical here. Dara Calleary has had to resign as a minister and is likely finished as a politician. Good chance Hogan and Woulfe will suffer the same fate. To me that's a bigger deal than some slap on the wrist fine for breaching regulations. And don't forget we would never have even heard about this event if it wasn't for the dreaded 'mainstream media'.
    Calleary yes, the other two will get to retirement - with Hogan 60 and Woulfe 58. Hogan will also probably get a nice directorship or two when he's done in Europe.


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    #2705
    _Kaiser_
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    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    It's a priceless story. MM and Leo ask him to go and HE gives our leaders the 2 fingers. The 3 of them look weak.

    Did Eamon Ryan (y'know, the third leader of the Government) ever stick his head up on this one? Don't recall seeing anything.


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    #2706
    ChikiChiki
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    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    It's a priceless story. MM and Leo ask him to go and HE gives our leaders the 2 fingers. The 3 of them look weak.

    Hogan doesn't look weak. He has the backing of the EU machine.

    It's a different level altogether. Basically the EU and Hogan giving the 2 fingers to all of us.


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    #2707
    ShamNNspace
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    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Hogan doesn't look weak. He has the backing of the EU machine.

    It's a different level altogether. Basically the EU and Hogan giving the 2 fingers to all of us.

    Hogans stand


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    #2708
    Rows Grower
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    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Did Eamon Ryan (y'know, the third leader of the Government) ever stick his head up on this one? Don't recall seeing anything.

    Eamon is worse than any of the other cretins when it comes to trying to cling on to a position, he not only hasn't opened his mouth about this scandal that has made headlines all over the world he has instructed his 11 minions to keep their mouths shut too.

    Not a gram of integrity between the dozen of them.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #2709
    gifted
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    gifted wrote: »
    Not a hope will Hogan fall.....that man was dipped in Teflon when he was born....nothing sticks to him.....I don't think he's losing much sleep over this.


    He's still holding on....Martin and varadkar looking like complete idiots now...been outplayed by hogan


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    #2710
    Gerry Hatrick
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    Every minute Hogan hangs on it damages FFG in a huge way. Martin and Varadkar have made their stand on this and if Hogan doesn't go they are made look weak and incapable.


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    #2711
    Plumbthedepths
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    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Did Eamon Ryan (y'know, the third leader of the Government) ever stick his head up on this one? Don't recall seeing anything.

    Ryan is still asleep.


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    #2712
    Gerry Hatrick
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    gifted wrote: »
    Not a hope will Hogan fall.....that man was dipped in Teflon when he was born....nothing sticks to him.....I don't think he's losing much sleep over this.

    Of course he's not losing sleep, you'd need morals for that.


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    #2713
    Edgware
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    Mullaghteelin wrote: »
    This is Ireland. There is no way the Gardaí will do anything except have a fake investigation to placate the plebs. The media will take their conclusions as gospel, fail to ask tough questions, and then bury the story.
    If, on the other hand, Sinn Féin were in power, I expect the Guards and media will spend every day harassing them.

    Thats right. Its all about Sinn Fein


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    #2714
    maestroamado
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    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    It's a priceless story. MM and Leo ask him to go and HE gives our leaders the 2 fingers. The 3 of them look weak.


    They are weak...


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    #2715
    ChikiChiki
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Ryan is still asleep.

    Last I heard he was seen in the convention centre and the lights have since been switched off and the place locked up.

    Wonder has anyone checked if he's there.


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    #2716
    Sorolla
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    It is high time that our government leaders make a broadcast to the nation and apologize unreservedly to the EU commissioner.

    The EU commissioner did nothing wrong and he is being victimized because our legislators sent him an invitation to the event in Clifden without any regard for his health and safety

    Putting pressure on public figures to attend functions just has to stop.

    I know huge pressure is put on our public representatives to go to St Patricks days events all over the world - this pressure has to stop.

    Down around my neck of the woods when an old person dies the priest is the first one rang and then the local TDS are rung to inquire when they would be available for the funeral and funeral arrangements are then made to suit the schedule of the TD

    This pressure on public representatives had to stop


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    #2717
    ExMachina1000
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    The two separate phone calls made to phil by leo and MM.

    They have no authority to demand anything from him. Probably went along the lines of please issue an apology to keep the plebs quiet.

    Also I can't see how the golf society trip would have been a secret or not known among others that it was happening. They are all related, married, friends, went to college together etc

    Banana republic


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    #2718
    Plumbthedepths
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    Sorolla wrote: »
    It is high time that our government leaders make a broadcast to the nation and apologize unreservedly to the EU commissioner.

    The EU commissioner did nothing wrong and he is being victimized because our legislators sent him an invitation to the event in Clifden without any regard for his health and safety

    Putting pressure on public figures to attend functions just has to stop.

    I know huge pressure is put on our public representatives to go to St Patricks days events all over the world - this pressure has to stop.

    Down around my neck of the woods when an old person dies the priest is the first one rang and then the local TDS are rung to inquire when they would be available for the funeral and funeral arrangements are then made to suit the schedule of the TD

    This pressure on public representatives had to stop

    Which of the 'Station House 81' are you?


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    #2719
    ExMachina1000
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    Sorolla wrote: »
    It is high time that our government leaders make a broadcast to the nation and apologize unreservedly to the EU commissioner.

    The EU commissioner did nothing wrong and he is being victimized because our legislators sent him an invitation to the event in Clifden without any regard for his health and safety

    Putting pressure on public figures to attend functions just has to stop.

    I know huge pressure is put on our public representatives to go to St Patricks days events all over the world - this pressure has to stop.

    Down around my neck of the woods when an old person dies the priest is the first one rang and then the local TDS are rung to inquire when they would be available for the funeral and funeral arrangements are then made to suit the schedule of the TD

    This pressure on public representatives had to stop

    I say double down on the pressure. Put the collective boot on their necks


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    #2720
    stockshares
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    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Just in - the EU responding to RTE asking if Hogan will be resigning.
    "No".

    It was Mary Regan who spoke with his rep.
    https://twitter.com/MaryERegan/status/1297505056640688129?s=19


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    #2721
    Plumbthedepths
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    stockshares wrote: »
    It was Mary Regan who spoke with his rep.
    https://twitter.com/MaryERegan/status/1297505056640688129?s=19

    He also felt he had nothing to apologise for, that changed too. Just saying.....


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    #2722
    ACitizenErased
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    The EU are afraid a precedent will be set allowing countries to swap and switch commissioners if he’s sacked. He’ll have to resign.


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    #2723
    Sorolla
    Registered Users Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Sorolla


    The EU commissioner was invited to an event organized by the Oireachtas Golf Society.

    He was their guest.

    Now this guest is being bullied by the leaders of a very incompetent government.

    If this is the way our Oireachtas deals with invited guests - what kind of signal is this sending out to the rest of the world ?

    This is end of the famous “cead míle failte”

    The Taoiseach should fly to Brussels tonight and apologize to the Commissioner on behalf of the people of Ireland


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    #2724
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    Sorolla wrote: »
    The EU commissioner was invited to an event organized by the Oireachtas Golf Society.

    He was their guest.

    Now this guest is being bullied by the leaders of a very incompetent government.

    If this is the way our Oireachtas deals with invited guests - what kind of signal is this sending out to the rest of the world ?

    This is end of the famous “cead míle failte”

    The Taoiseach should fly to Brussels tonight and apologize to the Commissioner on behalf of the people of Ireland

    Would that qualify as essential travel?


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    #2725
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Sorolla wrote: »
    The EU commissioner was invited to an event organized by the Oireachtas Golf Society.

    He was their guest.

    Now this guest is being bullied by the leaders of a very incompetent government.

    If this is the way our Oireachtas deals with invited guests - what kind of signal is this sending out to the rest of the world ?

    This is end of the famous “cead míle failte”

    The Taoiseach should fly to Brussels tonight and apologize to the Commissioner on behalf of the people of Ireland


    Not since the English massacred stranded sailors from the Armada and the locals sheltering them has ancient and noble Connaught seen such a grevious assault on hospitality, human warmth and decency as the current attacks on Phil Hogan.

    *
    If you want to pile it on, do it right job.


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    #2726
    Doctor Jimbob
    Registered Users Posts: 7,647 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Sorolla wrote: »
    It is high time that our government leaders make a broadcast to the nation and apologize unreservedly to the EU commissioner.

    The EU commissioner did nothing wrong and he is being victimized because our legislators sent him an invitation to the event in Clifden without any regard for his health and safety

    Putting pressure on public figures to attend functions just has to stop.

    I know huge pressure is put on our public representatives to go to St Patricks days events all over the world - this pressure has to stop.

    Down around my neck of the woods when an old person dies the priest is the first one rang and then the local TDS are rung to inquire when they would be available for the funeral and funeral arrangements are then made to suit the schedule of the TD

    This pressure on public representatives had to stop

    You're making it a bit too obvious now.


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    #2727
    gifted
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    Only other way out of this for Hogan is to step back from his post pending the garda investigation......obviously the gardai will find no wrong doing on any of the 81 people in attendance ......because those people are people of influence.... and Hogan will be back in his position...


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    #2728
    Castlekeeper
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    Sorolla wrote: »
    The EU commissioner was invited to an event organized by the Oireachtas Golf Society.

    He was their guest.

    Now this guest is being bullied by the leaders of a very incompetent government.

    If this is the way our Oireachtas deals with invited guests - what kind of signal is this sending out to the rest of the world ?

    This is end of the famous “cead míle failte”

    The Taoiseach should fly to Brussels tonight and apologize to the Commissioner on behalf of the people of Ireland

    :D:D:D
    He should put in for the the extra expenses incurred ... oh sorry, someone's on that already.

    WUM


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    #2729
    unhappys10
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    Sorolla wrote: »
    The EU commissioner was invited to an event organized by the Oireachtas Golf Society.

    He was their guest.

    Now this guest is being bullied by the leaders of a very incompetent government.

    If this is the way our Oireachtas deals with invited guests - what kind of signal is this sending out to the rest of the world ?

    This is end of the famous “cead míle failte”

    The Taoiseach should fly to Brussels tonight and apologize to the Commissioner on behalf of the people of Ireland

    Oh shut up.


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    #2730
    Loafing Oaf
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    gifted wrote: »
    Only other way out of this for Hogan is to step back from his post pending the garda investigation......obviously the gardai will find no wrong doing on any of the 81 people in attendance ......because those people are people of influence.... and Hogan will be back in his position...

    Doubt you could muck around with a high-powered position like EU Trade Commissioner in that way?:confused:


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    #2731
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 15,128 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    unhappys10 wrote: »
    Oh shut up.

    Oh cheer up. :)


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