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PHIL HOGAN NEEDS TO RESIGN.

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    #752
    TheBlackPill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭TheBlackPill


    The Belly wrote: »
    Well if he is the best we got then god helps us.

    He is very effective in Europe. So unless he is to be replaced by Mairead McGuinness, leave alone


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    #753
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The Belly wrote: »
    Well if he is the best we got then god helps us.
    He's well-regarded in the EU, whatever we may think of him.


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    #754
    The Belly
    Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He's well-regarded in the EU, whatever we may think of him.

    Of course he is to the EU. His loyalty to Ireland i dont think so.


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    #755
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    TheBlackPill wrote: »
    He is very effective in Europe. So unless he is to be replaced by Mairead McGuinness, leave alone
    He's safe! She just wants the top chair in the EP, but is also a good operator in her sphere.


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    #756
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    TheBlackPill wrote: »
    He should not resign
    We will need every bit of influence on the european commision over the next few years, there is no guarantee his replacement will be any good

    He wants Brussels to fix our tax rates in exchange for Covid bailout money

    That's the last favour this patriot did for his country

    Wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him


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    #757
    is_that_so
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    The Belly wrote: »
    Of course he is to the EU. His loyalty to Ireland i dont think so.
    That's not his job. Countries may pick commissioners but after that they work for the EU.


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    #758
    Turquoise Hexagon Sun
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Turquoise Hexagon Sun


    Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »
    I for one want him gone.

    Great argument you put forward there.


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    #759
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Well he says he's sorry but not resigning. Platitudes but no consequences. He's a product of Irish politics allright.


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    #760
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Including those who had drafted and signed off on them?

    Including a judge who uses their judgement to convict people of crimes? Should he accept ignorance of the law as a reason to let off somebody who breaks it?

    I'm glad to see Vinne weighing in. I miss him.
    https://twitter.com/vincentbrowne/status/1297511103010873344

    Isnt he the lad who said the Provos should be allowed keep small weapons for " disciplinary purposes"


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    #761
    The Belly
    Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    is_that_so wrote: »
    That's not his job. Countries may pick commissioners but after that they work for the EU.

    So no accountability


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    #762
    LillySV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭LillySV


    foundation10 wrote: »
    Add Anne O Connell to that list!

    What happened there? Never heard this


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    #763
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The Belly wrote: »
    So no accountability
    There is. To the head of the EU Commission and the EP.


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    #764
    Hawthorn Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Hawthorn Tree


    TheBlackPill wrote: »
    He is very effective in Europe.

    Go on, tell us more.

    As effective as Enda was?


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    #765
    Loafing Oaf
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    LillySV wrote: »
    What happened there? Never heard this

    Minister apologises for crude sexual insult
    "(On) Wednesday, August 24, I and my partner for the past 26 years, Mairtin Mac Cormaic, and a number of other people arrived at Ballyconneely Golf Club in Connemara. As we were entering the clubhouse we met the Minister for the Environment, Mr Phil Hogan, and we greeted each other cordially."

    Ms O'Connell who owns a number of buy-to-let properties, said she "took the opportunity to say to him that I hoped he would not 'screw' property owners in promised legislation.

    "He replied in a loud voice: 'I have no problem screwing you. Hasn't Mairtin been screwing you for years.' Then he turned his back on me and said: 'Business tomorrow.'...
    Ms O'Connell, who recently celebrated her 70th birthday

    The guy just oozes class, doesn't he?


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    #766
    LillySV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭LillySV


    Bowie wrote: »
    Well he says he's sorry but not resigning. Platitudes but no consequences. He's a product of Irish politics allright.

    Hope everyone here has sent their email To the email address provided previously demanding his resignation

    ec-president-vdl@ec.europa.eu


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    #767
    TheBlackPill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭TheBlackPill


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Minister apologises for crude sexual insult



    The guy just oozes class, doesn't he?

    i'd say he has a strong cultural connection to the southern european commissioners


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    #768
    LillySV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭LillySV


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Minister apologises for crude sexual insult



    The guy just oozes class, doesn't he?
    Unbelievable ... how does someone as smug and trashy as that continue to thrive... should’ve been removed from the Irish political scene ... let alone sent to the eu!!


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    #769
    The Belly
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    There is. To the head of the EU Commission and the EP.

    I know how it works.

    I didnt get a say or nobody else did as citizens. He answers to a greater master not the electorate here and cannot be reprimanded either.


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    #770
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    Yes Phil Hogan should resign.


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    #771
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    This we can't leave him resign thing is interesting to me. The threat is another country having their commissioner as his replacement and they're saying we can't risk it. I'm wondering now what's the big deal if they do that? It's not as if this fella care for the welfare of Irish citizens are evident in his actions. Is it more that it would be egg on the face for FG?


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    #772
    Arghus
    Registered Users Posts: 14,536 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    As much as I think he's a fool and gave a weak apology I'm not sure if demanding the resignation of an Irish EU minister for trade, at this present moment of Brexit negotiations, might be the the smartest strategy. Feels a lot like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.


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    #773
    whisky_galore
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    LillySV wrote: »
    Unbelievable ... how does someone as smug and trashy as that continue to thrive... should’ve been removed from the Irish political scene ... let alone sent to the eu!!

    It's way back in 2012, before MeToo, it was harmless "banter" back then.


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    #774
    The Tetrarch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    The standard response from an Irish politician is something like "I'm sorry you think I should resign". :D


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    #775
    smurgen
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    Arghus wrote: »
    As much as I think he's a fool and gave a weak apology I'm not sure if demanding the resignation of an Irish EU minister for trade, at this present moment of Brexit negotiations, might be the the smartest strategy. Feels a lot like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

    What has he done to evidence that he will work in our best interest? I would actually trust a random European minister more to work in our interests than him.


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    #776
    The Belly
    Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    Arghus wrote: »
    As much as I think he's a fool and gave a weak apology I'm not sure if demanding the resignation of an Irish EU minister for trade, at this present moment of Brexit negotiations, might be the the smartest strategy. Feels a lot like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

    I dont agree although i do understand your view. I think it would shows some balls. And we are going to need plenty of that in the future.


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    #777
    Pelezico
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    It's way back in 2012, before MeToo, it was harmless "banter" back then.


    People here are so pious..and holier than thou.


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    #778
    TheBlackPill
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    smurgen wrote: »
    What has he done to evidence that he will work in our best interest? I would actually trust a random European minister more to work in our interests than him.
    Our Best interests do not coincide with random EU ministers. We have no guarantee a new commissioner would be from Malta/Cyrpus or any of the smaller Eastern european states


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    #779
    is_that_so
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    Arghus wrote: »
    As much as I think he's a fool and gave a weak apology I'm not sure if demanding the resignation of an Irish EU minister for trade, at this present moment of Brexit negotiations, might be the the smartest strategy. Feels a lot like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
    Some quarters are itching to see a bloodbath for what is at worst a fairly poor lapse in judgement by those attending.


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    #780
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    Yes Phil Hogan should resign.

    He is the European Commmissioner for Trade a unlected position of power he was selected for by other unelected people.
    Our Elected Irish govement have asked him to think about his position.
    Our elected goverment can not get rid of him.
    The Citizens of the EU can not get rid of him.
    Only the unelected can do anything

    No not a bad film its reality.
    There is no way for people of Europe to get rid of this man from his unelected postion of power.

    This is the EU commision in motion. totaly unelected totaly unaccountable.


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    #781
    The Belly
    Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Some quarters are itching to see a bloodbath for what is at worst a fairly poor lapse in judgement by those attending.

    Nobody wants a blood bath but a bit of accountability and responsibility would be great. It sends a message that you answer to the people not to yourself.


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