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PHIL HOGAN NEEDS TO RESIGN.

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    #92
    Gerry Hatrick
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    Ger Roe wrote: »
    I believe the event is being investigated by the Gardaí. The hotel might have questions to answer yet.

    The Gardai have been called in to take heat off the establishment. They "won't be able to comment" now because of Gardai investigation.


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    #93
    fly_agaric
    Registered Users Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    What makes you think he has the interests of the Irish people at heart anyway?. He didn't show any signs of it when he went to the golf outing. Maybe he has some Irish interests at heart, big business in the meat processing industry and golfing friends?

    We need and deserve better leadership and have a right to expect higher standards from our representatives. I thought the days of the Galway Races Tent politics were over.... it seems not. The circle of privilege lives on, it has just moved location.

    I don't agree with what he did but he is not "our" leader, and only indirectly "our" representative.
    He's not really supposed to have "our" interests at heart either as though we (or FG) sent him over there he's an EU politician/bureaucrat whose portfolio/responsibilities were decided at EU level. He is not our county councillor, or even a TD.
    Was just thinking the fact that he is Irish, is in that role & knows the issues around Brexit as they affect us is a benefit at this time and am unsure if Ireland should be trying to get him booted from his job.


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    #94
    JJJackal
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    Hogans situation is very different to the others - who are part of the government based in Ireland.

    He is likely primarily base in Brussels and would not be privy to changes in COVID restrictions in Ireland. He is likely on holidays from his Brussels job and may actually not be checking updates on Irish restrictions everyday. He could think that the hotel should be responsible for ensuring that they dont hold a nonCovid compliant event.

    I would not consider myself a fan of Phil Hogan - but we should put his transgression in context


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    #95
    Cyrus
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    JJJackal wrote: »
    Hogans situation is very different to the others - who are part of the government based in Ireland.

    He is likely primarily base in Brussels and would not be privy to changes in COVID restrictions in Ireland. He is likely on holidays from his Brussels job and may actually not be checking updates on Irish restrictions everyday. He could think that the hotel should be responsible for ensuring that they dont hold a nonCovid compliant event.

    I would not consider myself a fan of Phil Hogan - but we should put his transgression in context

    context has no place in a thread like this


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    #96
    Gerry Hatrick
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    JJJackal wrote: »
    Hogans situation is very different to the others - who are part of the government based in Ireland.

    He is likely primarily base in Brussels and would not be privy to changes in COVID restrictions in Ireland. He is likely on holidays from his Brussels job and may actually not be checking updates on Irish restrictions everyday. He could think that the hotel should be responsible for ensuring that they dont hold a nonCovid compliant event.

    I would not consider myself a fan of Phil Hogan - but we should put his transgression in context

    Bollox. Unless he's been living under a rock he'll have known exactly the restrictions in place. These chancers have PR people working for them besides it takes 10 seconds to Google the restrictions for Ireland.


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    #97
    Ger Roe
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    fly_agaric wrote: »
    I don't agree with what he did but he is not "our" leader, and only indirectly "our" representative.
    He's not really supposed to have "our" interests at heart either as though we (or FG) sent him over there he's an EU politician/bureaucrat whose portfolio/responsibilities were decided at EU level. He is not our county councillor, or even a TD.
    Was just thinking the fact that he is Irish, is in that role & knows the issues around Brexit as they affect us is a benefit at this time and am unsure if Ireland should be trying to get him booted from his job.

    My leadership comment was a general one, aimed at other directly elected reps that were also in the room. I am aware of Mr Hogan's position and responsibility - he can not exercise national bias on our behalf , as was suggested by the original post that I was replying to.


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    #98
    Cyrus
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    Gerry Hatrick wrote: »
    Bollox. Unless he's been living under a rock he'll have known exactly the restrictions in place. These chancers have PR people working for them besides it takes 10 seconds to Google the restrictions for Ireland.

    if i wasnt living in ireland and i was going to a dinner to sit at a table with a govt minister id be making the assumption the arrangements were above board to be honest. the restrictions had only been updated the day before, he could easily have not known the current state of play.

    the irony is the same people could all have their breakfast the next morning in the hotel retaurant and there is no issue....


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    #99
    Gerry Hatrick
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    Anyone in Europe right now will be checking travel restriction's if they are travelling. If like he say's he was in Ireland 2 weeks before he went to Clifden he'll be watching TV, following social media etc..and will have known exactly the rules. There is NO excuse for what he's done.


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    #100
    Hawthorn Tree
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    Phil is untouchable but there is more to come about Phil's movements before the party and that night.


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    #101
    Plumbthedepths
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    Phil might find himself in the crosshairs soon. Significant that Leo had nothing to say about his attendance.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/taoiseach-micheal-martin-removes-fianna-fail-whip-from-three-senators-over-golf-dinner-39467242.html


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    #102
    dere34
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    This is partly why the UK left the EU. The fact that people are appointed and can't be removed.


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    #103
    Hawthorn Tree
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    Gerry Hatrick wrote: »
    The Gardai have been called in to take heat off the establishment. They "won't be able to comment" now because of Gardai investigation.

    There were a load of Gardai parked up outside the hotel. Maybe they saw something?


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    #104
    fergus1001
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    Steyr 556 wrote:
    Milana Vayntrub


    reports are that big Phil was resident in kildare before he went to clifden so now he is in breach of the local lockdown rules also


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    #105
    JP Liz V1
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    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/PhilHoganEU/status/1296748601583063040

    Statement out, he says he's in the country since July

    In Kildare which is on lockdown
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #106
    Richard Hillman
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    Does Phil Hogan have diplomatic immunity? Or is that just when he is in Brussels?


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    #107
    [Deleted User]
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    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    Phil is untouchable but there is more to come about Phil's movements before the party and that night.

    knocking shop ???:D


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    #108
    daheff
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    JJJackal wrote: »
    He is likely on holidays from his Brussels job and may actually not be checking updates on Irish restrictions everyday.

    if he is in the country then he should be making himself aware of the possible restrictions that may affect his holiday.

    Ignorance is not a defense.


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    #109
    Podge_irl
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    dere34 wrote: »
    This is partly why the UK left the EU. The fact that people are appointed and can't be removed.

    They can be removed. Just not by us, because they are not "our" commissioner.


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    #110
    RandomViewer
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    thebronze14 wrote: »
    I vote for an inanimate carbon rod

    Tub of Lard


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    #111
    RandomViewer
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    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Does Phil Hogan have diplomatic immunity? Or is that just when he is in Brussels?

    Diplomatic immunity, can't help hearing that in a South African accent


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    #112
    Normal One
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Normal One


    I would like to see the Ultimate Warrior give Hogan the gorilla press before pinning him down for the 3 count.

    It won't happen, of course, since Warrior is dead :(


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    #113
    Liamo57
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    If I was big Phil I'd brazen it out. I'd say the missus accepted the invite on my behalf and only told me that morning. Id apologise on behalf of her and tell the media to go easy on her, she's a daecent woman and a great wife. I'd blame her like I have blamed everyone along the way up the ladder. Sure everyones afraid of their poo to contradict me. I'd burst them if they didn't agree with me, I'm untouchable with the big swollen Kilkenny head on me, sure women find me irrisistable.


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    #114
    smelly sock
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    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Does Phil Hogan have diplomatic immunity? Or is that just when he is in Brussels?

    Diplomacy or any version of that word/term can never be associated with Big Phil "Trickle" Hogan


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    #115
    IAMAMORON
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    Can you imagine what the other European commissioners would think if he gave his reason for resignation as the attendance of a golf dinner in Clifden?

    They would be bursting their bolleex laughing at us.


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    #116
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Diplomatic immunity, can't help hearing that in a South African accent


    I'm not into Varadkar and his movie quotes but if he says your diplomatic immunity has just been revoked, he'll go up in my estimation.


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    #117
    smelly sock
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    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    I'm not into Varadkar and his movie quotes but if he says your diplomatic immunity has just been revoked, he'll go up in my estimation.

    Phil will be grand.

    He's not Blick.


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    #118
    recyclebin
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    I suppose Leo could get kick him kicked out of the FG party. Not much else can be done as it's out of FG control.


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    #119
    recyclebin
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Can you imagine what the other European commissioners would think if he gave his reason for resignation as the attendance of a golf dinner in Clifden?

    They would be bursting their bolleex laughing at us.
    Plenty of UK ministes have had to resign over trivial matters. It wouldn't be an Irish only thing.


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    #120
    Treppen
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    Turns his many fuck1ng pensions down to a trickle.


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    #121
    smelly sock
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    recyclebin wrote: »
    Plenty of UK ministes have had to resign over trivial matters. It wouldn't be an Irish only thing.

    Hardly a trivial thing. Flouting restrictions they have imposed on us, giving us the two fingers and further extending the lockdown in Kildare thus rendering many business bankrupt.

    This is anything but trivial.


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