RTE 1: 'Today' with Claire Byrne

Klonker

Dempo1 wrote: »

Brian Hayes, what a complete D******, I'd belive Pinocchio over this lobbyist

What did he say that you disagree with? I thought he put across the explanations quite well why we have the highest interest rates in Europe.

As he said, why if its such a gravy train here for banks and mortgage providers, that European banks are not lining up to enter the market?

Klonker

Klonker wrote: »

What did he say that you disagree with? I thought he put across the explanations quite well why we have the highest interest rates in Europe.

As he said, why if its such a gravy train here for banks and mortgage providers, that European banks are not lining up to enter the market?

Costs of establishment, such as a regulatory and legal environment that is unlike anything else in Europe. We are the only significant common-law jurisdiction left in Europe, with our own constitutional version of contract law; that makes for a somewhat risky environment in the eyes of a firm who knows the German and French jurisdiction inside out.

Also, just because there are super-profits available here (especially for insurance companies), by Irish standards, it doesnt follow that these would be considered super-profits abroad. This is a small market, but the point remains that domestic profits are way out of line with domestic costs to consumers.

Coillte_Bhoy

Macy0161 wrote: »

Socialist Party/ Solidarity/ RISE/ AAA/ PBP or whatever "the left" are calling themselves this week?

Far from irrelevant in leading the campaign to stop water charges

dulpit

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Far from irrelevant in leading the campaign to stop water charges

Far from left wing in campaigning against a water charge too though...

dulpit

dulpit wrote: »

Far from left wing in campaigning against a water charge too though...

Sorry, what?

Did you mean property tax? Because that's where they were kinda hypocritical.

It's not unusual for a left wing party to argue that drinking water is a basic freedom. It is a basic freedom.

plodder

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Costs of establishment, such as a regulatory and legal environment that is unlike anything else in Europe. We are the only significant common-law jurisdiction left in Europe, with our own constitutional version of contract law; that makes for a somewhat risky environment in the eyes of a firm who knows the German and French jurisdiction inside out.

Also, just because there are super-profits available here (especially for insurance companies), by Irish standards, it doesnt follow that these would be considered super-profits abroad. This is a small market, but the point remains that domestic profits are way out of line with domestic costs to consumers.

I'd agree the small size of the country is a barrier, but I don't think our common law legal system is, certainly not for UK and US banks, and every country has its own laws and regulations regardless. I didn't hear the piece but I'd guess he was talking about the difficulty in dealing with people who stop paying their mortgages as being a big factor. It's the other borrowers who have to pay for those bad debts, through higher mortgage rates.

plodder

plodder wrote: »

I'd agree the small size of the country is a barrier, but I don't think our common law legal system is, certainly not for UK and US banks, and every country has its own laws and regulations regardless. I didn't hear the piece but I'd guess he was talking about the difficulty in dealing with people who stop paying their mortgages as being a big factor. It's the other borrowers who have to pay for those bad debts, through higher mortgage rates.

When I say that the irish version of common law is a barrier, it isn't a problem in its own right — you'd get over it for a country like the UK. But when you consider the size of the country and then the unique legal environment dawns on you, you're likely to think it just isn't worth it.
There are banks and insurance firms operating from Paris and Frankfurt with a single regulatory team in one office. In Dublin, you'd have to have a single office for that small market.

The profits here are not big, either, in nominal terms. But relative to the size of the economy and taking into account the costs to consumers, profits in insurance firms are disproportionately large.

Don't worry though, Fine Gael are on the case. Now that we are capping insurance payouts, the insurance companies have pinkie-promised to reduce their super-profits.

Dempo1

Klonker wrote: »

What did he say that you disagree with? I thought he put across the explanations quite well why we have the highest interest rates in Europe.

As he said, why if its such a gravy train here for banks and mortgage providers, that European banks are not lining up to enter the market?

Pretty much everything actually and more notably the flagrant mixing up of the facts around the reasons why Banks here have to retain substantial reserves. This has absolutely nothing to do with banks here charging excessive mortgage rates, its to do with their quite disgraceful, disgusting and outrageous behavior prior to, during and indeed after the crash. What a pity the news of Ulster Banks little fine hadn't broken prior to this interview, Hayes made a fool of himself yesterday, I'd loved to have heard him deal (or squirm) out of a discussion on that.

Dempo1

When is enough, enough, the vaccine Q skipping is outrageous. Curious a private school's staff got the spare Vacinnes, I'd wager there's a little connection between both institutions.

There's not only a lot of public schools between the 2 but more importantly 100"s of vulnerable people who could have been contacted. Paul Reid is annoyed?, he should be ashamed

pc7

Dempo1 wrote: »

When is enough, enough, the vaccine Q skipping is outrageous. Curious a private school's staff got the spare Vacinnes, I'd wager there's a little connection between both institutions.

there is, the CEO's kids go to it!

Dempo1

pc7 wrote: »

there is, the CEO's kids go to it!

Along with a number of consultants children , one has to wonder's. Just outrageous.

Ish66

Dempo1 wrote: »

Along with a number of consultants children , one has to wonder's. Just outrageous.

It is and has always been ''Who you know''

shtpEdthePlum

I contacted my uncle (senior management in HSE) today. I'm phase 4 and haven't been contacted yet. He might speed me along.

Clearly it's every man for themselves now. No morality anymore.

Brendan Bendar

Dempo1 wrote: »

When is enough, enough, the vaccine Q skipping is outrageous. Curious a private school's staff got the spare Vacinnes, I'd wager there's a little connection between both institutions.

There's not only a lot of public schools between the 2 but more importantly 100"s of vulnerable people who could have been contacted. Paul Reid is annoyed?, he should be ashamed

He can’t micro-manage every ******** deviation which occurs.

Have a bit of sense.

Dempo1

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

He can’t micro-manage every ******** deviation which occurs.

Have a bit of sense.

How many Deviations would you like to see before Reid "who's supposed to be in charge" acts? Would seem sensible to most reasonable people, he along with senior HSE take some responsibility, not withstanding the shambles the roll out has been to date and before you come back, this aside from supplies.

Atlantic Dawn

Surely the HSE should have insisted that each vaccination centre had a pre approved list of 3 groups of people they could quickly contact if they had excess vaccines they needed to use urgently.

plodder

Dempo1 wrote: »

When is enough, enough, the vaccine Q skipping is outrageous. Curious a private school's staff got the spare Vacinnes, I'd wager there's a little connection between both institutions.

There's not only a lot of public schools between the 2 but more importantly 100"s of vulnerable people who could have been contacted. Paul Reid is annoyed?, he should be ashamed

St Gerards apparently - at one time the most expensive private school in the country.

Is there a clear written policy on the sequencing for use of leftovers? If there isn't then it kind of is Paul Reid's fault.

Dempo1

plodder wrote: »

St Gerards apparently - at one time the most expensive private school in the country.

It is, I know it well, I'm from cabinteely, a stones throw from it

generalgerry

Thanks Simon, that was a complete waste of f**king time anyway.

Brendan Bendar

Dempo1 wrote: »

How many Deviations would you like to see before Reid "who's supposed to be in charge" acts? Would seem sensible to most reasonable people, he along with senior HSE take some responsibility, not withstanding the shambles the roll out has been to date and before you come back, this aside from supplies.

There are protocols in place and these should be followed.

Paul Reid can’t be on top of everything.There are other people whose job it is to handle these events.Let them handle them.

I’m getting very irked at the tactic of immediately going for the head honcho whenever anything untoward happens in an organisation in an attempt to fling mud on everyone.

Tackle the gimps who perpretate the deed, give them a fair hearing in defense, and then take appropriate action.

Leave the overall corporate operational stuff to people charged with overall running and protocol of the concern.

The protocols were well known and not followed, so Mr Reid has nothing to be ashamed of.

You should withdraw that accusation.

plodder

Dempo1 wrote: »

It is, I know it well, I'm from cabinteely, a stones throw from it

https://www.thejournal.ie/hse-ceo-extremely-annoyed-after-report-that-beacon-hospital-gave-vaccines-to-private-school-teachers-5392464-Mar2021/

The Mail reports children of the CEO of the Beacon attend the fee-paying school.

:rolleyes: A simple google search would give you another school only 450 metres away, with its phone number.

Dempo1

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

There are protocols in place and these should be followed.

Paul Reid can’t be on top of everything.There are other people whose job it is to handle these events.Let them handle them.

I’m getting very irked at the tactic of immediately going for the head honcho whenever anything untoward happens in an organisation in an attempt to fling mud on everyone.

Tackle the gimps who perpretate the deed, give them a fair hearing in defense, and then take appropriate action.

Leave the overall corporate operational stuff to people charged with overall running and protocol of the concern.

The protocols were well known and not followed, so Mr Reid has nothing to be ashamed of.

You should withdraw that accusation.

Brendan how many times does it need to be explained, you don't dictate what can and can't be posted, also advising anyone to withdraw an accusation suggests you feel a post was inappropriate, I beg to differ.

We do agree on one thing, you are easily annoyed, I do appreciate its difficult defending the indefensible (Leaky Leo etc).

Disagree all you like but please don't lecture

crossman47

Dempo1 wrote: »

How many Deviations would you like to see before Reid "who's supposed to be in charge" acts? Would seem sensible to most reasonable people, he along with senior HSE take some responsibility, not withstanding the shambles the roll out has been to date and before you come back, this aside from supplies.

Apart from supplies, it has not been a shambles. One or two glitches maybe but vaccines are being put in arms as soon as they arrive,

boardise

Ish66 wrote: »

It is and has always been ''Who you know''

This is built in to human nature -same in all cultures ,past present (and future too.).
No laws ,no bouts of outrage will change it.
All society can do is come up with systems and regulations that try to bring about some level of fair access to goods and services but these will always be circumvented.
Nepotism and in-group favouritism operate in all classes and groups -not just the upper echelons-though we only get the torrent of media fury when their particular maneouvres come to light

Dempo1

Claire and the contributor both have the ships name wrong, it's the Evergreen, not Evergiven

Dempo1

Brilliant, Oliver Callan

Dempo1

What is it about Irish celebrity chefs and one particular accent, they all sound the same

Robert McGrath

Dempo1 wrote: »

Brilliant, Oliver Callan

Really? I thought it was unimaginative and completely without any particular insight. And he’s not even trying to hide his Shinner leanings

lucalux

Dempo1 wrote: »

Claire and the contributor both have the ships name wrong, it's the Evergreen, not Evergiven

It's the Ever Given, Evergreen is the company that owns it.

Ever Given is a Golden-class container ship, among the largest container ships in the world. It is owned by Shoei Kisen Kaisha, wet leased and operated by Taiwanese container transportation and shipping company Evergreen Marine

Brendan Bendar

Dempo1 wrote: »

Claire and the contributor both have the ships name wrong, it's the Evergreen, not Evergiven

Incorrect :as usual you have jumped in studs up, flashing ‘gotcha’ around the place

The ship is the MV Ever Given.

The shipping company is Evergreen Shipping.

C’mon man......:cool:


Edit Previous poster got in first......sorry lux.