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Oceans 11 Werewolf Game Thread
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Thanks for the introduction Rikand. :P
Been reading over the thread looking for tasks.
Why not 'lay' of the land?
Poetry by Henry, which was very tasky, but perhaps a bit too blatant to be wolfy.
Frank and then Nigel followed, but I think they were just playing along. Other than that, I notice Clodagh is aggressive and Fiona was quick to jump on Holly on the basis of very little. But rattling trees is a good tactic.
I can't recall a great deal about the movie, although I saw it years ago.
Quotes riona, and questions lie/lay. we know riona is vilage.
mentions frank, nigel, clodagh, fiona, holly. names soup.it was Henry who was first with the poetry, then Frank, then Nigel. i don't agree with Clodagh's logic either, although I don't get a wolf vibe from Clodagh. it's his usual tactic in werewolf games to rattle trees (if it is who i think it is). i think Frank and Nigel were just copying Henry. Henry's latest coded post is even more bizarre so I'll be voting Henry as of now, unless something changes and/or he explains himself.
i'm getting a wolf vibe from Fiona. posts fluff, jumps on Holly, votes Holly on the basis of nothing.
#FFA1
Henry
Fiona
for reasons above.
In reply to barb, mentions poetry corner frank and nigel, then disagrres with clodagh logic, and call her a him. Mentions henry too. same names as first time, frank nigel clodagh henry fiona holly.seems obvious that Henry is tasking. a bit too obvious and goodies task as well. but he's not leaving much option other than a vote in the lynch thread at this stage. early days yet however.
stating waht everybody is saying already.Wendy is the only player yet to post i believe.
note wendys absense.why the air of mystery? are you Tess, Denny or bruiser? I suppose you won't talk.:P
engages with henrylots just posting fluff at the moment. it looks like it's going to be a quiet thread. Wendy still is yet to post.
i don't know what Mary's beef is, the Iso on Fiona was fair-she's voted Holly on no solid grounds. a bit suspect.
i'm swinging between Henry and Fiona for a vote.
Henry is too wolfy to be a wolf or wolf working in plain sight and being vague. I might vote Fiona.
Idk mary . her iso was fair, she voted holly, bit suspect.
but... swing between henry and fiona for vote......
might vote fisteve's genie act from earlier was a bit suss too. i'd probably put him third on the list at the moment.
first mention of steve.Barbara is the only one doing anything.
Henry is going to be Mr. obscure mystery man for this werewolf, there's always one
Mentions babs, henry is safe to mention at this point.Riona WW 4
Phil WW 2
Orla WW 2
Vernon WW 1
Gabriel WW 1
Wendy WW 0
there might be a wolf down there somewhere. lowest posters always a bit suss imo.
hightligts low posters.....
Orla is in there.
gonna skip henry only mentions form here.Vernon the genie has appeared.
first mention of vernon.Literally a minute later Vernon appears...
That's two genies we've had-Steve and Vernon.
more vernon, possible spew on vernon....... will wait for more.apologies, i missed that.
So just Steve the genie.
or maybe not.I Wonder...does everyone have a task of some sort? Tasks doesn't automatically mean wolf. I've shied away from Henry but Fiona is still in my bad pile. No more twisting and turning-gonna stick a vote on her for reasons stated earlier. sorry Fiona, but nothing much else to go on at this stage.
more fiona , she dead, so gonna skip in future too, no need to analyse the dead.Hi Wendy,
Fortune favours the brave.
What are your reads?
wendy hiHard to do FFAs when no one is posting much of substance and personally I'm a bit rusty with no werewolf in ages. i agree with you thats its easy for wolves to hide now though.
Henry was on 2 votes and changed his self vote to Holly.
Holly was on 2 votes then Fiona changed to Babs.
Only thing we can read so far from votes i'd imagine.
facts.Thanks. I voted Fiona, not Frank.
Mary interaction.Thanks for that welcome. Wendy has a bullet? I need to read back now, I'm too far behind.
factRight, here are my thoughts. Last night's lynch was the Pits-the usual Crapshoot, as predicted by a few.
Day 1: Automated Votals from #1 to #32
Fiona WW (1): Katie WW
Holly WW (3): Mary WW, Steve WW, Clodagh WW
Katie WW (1): Phil WW
Nigel WW (2): Frank WW, Abigail WW
Mary WW (2): Nigel WW, Holly WW
Clodagh WW (2): Orla WW, Barbara WW
Steve WW (2): Oisin WW, Gabriel WW
Frank WW (1): Vernon WW
Henry WW (1): Henry WW
Barbara WW (1): Fiona WW
Not voting (2): Riona WW, Wendy WW
First things first: I voted Fiona because she was posting fluff and I didn't like her jumping on Holly on the basis of very little. I said as much yesterday.
Initially, I suspected Steve, Nigel and Clodagh of being on a team based on last minute votes. But Steve's last min vote was actually a re-vote, because he misformatted his earlier one. Nigel didn't self-pres at all and ended up on two. Clodagh's was a self preservation vote, because he was on two.
Seems a fair explanation; but Nigel and Clodagh might be on a team, could be village or wolf.
Holly could move someone's vote. So if Holly wanted to move someone's vote, where would she move it to? I would say to the person she voted for: in this case, it was Mary, who would have been lynched. So the question I have is what happened that Holly couldn't move a vote to Mary? She already knew she was dead at 9.03pm:
But I don't really know why.
Riona and Wendy didn't vote at all. Wendy says she has a gun, but no one has been shot; a bit weird in itself. Riona only made five or so posts and now she is dead. Only one person voted for Riona yesterday: Mary, who later said it was because she wanted her to come out and play, flimsy, but not wolfy in itself. I wonder if the wolves peeked Riona?
Mary made a late switch to Holly, after she earlier had said Holly was the only one who she 'had as good'. When called out on it, she made a song and dance about Holly's nice list on day one, as though it was something unusual.
Henry then comes out with contradictory statements and he and Mary get chummy. He even said he and Holly were in 'cahoots' when Holly had actually voted for him. He says he knows who the wolf is, that he can clear a bunch of villagers and Mary tries to hammer home the point as though that's all solved then and she's in the clear with this over eager post.
This is a statement that is backed up by nothing, Mary doesn't even respond to it. Is he saying in plain sight that he and Mary are the wolves? Too blatant surely, but then again, I don't want to be played here.
Today Henry contradicts himself and says all he knows is Mary is good. I've pretty much given up trying to make sense of Henry; I can't believe his contradictory claims. I didn't trust him yesterday and I still can't trust him. But he could be wolf or village. He obviously needs people to vote for him for some reason so for now he might not be a safe vote. I think Mary and he might be a wolf team; but I'm more inclined to think Mary is taking advantage of the chaos of Henry to make herself look good.
Her first posts off the bat today seem to want everyone to ignore her because she's 'cleared' by Henry.
Her reasoning for voting for Steve earlier today is as flimsy as her vote for Riona.
She's basically been clearing herself and the others from the night before. How could she forget? She asks Henry to come along and clarify and he comes along promptly to do so.
She tries to hammer it home again.
This is a theory that Mary has concocted mostly herself.
Then she comes out with this contradictory, distraction tactic.
This is after she voted for Steve because of some late posting.
Here she leaps to the defense of Henry.
Below is Abigail, Gabriel and Clodagh wondering why Frank wasn't included in her list of wolves. I don't see much indication she's in cahoots with Frank, other than Frank saying something along the lines that we should lynch/kill Clodagh and Steve and leave Mary because Henry 'cleared' her. Only Henry, Mary and Frank seem to have suggested that Henry has really cleared, or is capable of clearing, anyone. We won't really know until Henry is dead?
Recently we have this..
Hardly a surprise when it's all contradictory statements, chumminess with Henry and votes based on nothing. And what happened to the two wolves that Henry and Mary had solved last night?
Some other minor thoughts:
Clodagh: Aggressive, in a good way, mostly. I didn't understand his obsession with Barbara's 'piles' yesterday. :pac: I don't really know why he's going after Frank so strongly unless I've missed something? I'm still wondering if he's in a team with Nigel; good or bad.
Nigel: He voted on 'gut' yesterday. I don't like 'gut' votes generally; although on day one it's common. The lack of self-pres maybe works in his favour but I'm not entirely convinced.
Barbara: Holly and Barbara were the two I saw as village yesterday, although admittedly I didn't say so. I didn't like Barbara's hatchet job ISO on me naturally, saying I should be shot the minute I got in the thread today :pac:, so I'm not as fond of Babs as I once was.:p
Oisin: I didn't agree with him yesterday jumping on Steve for calling out the dodgy poetry and I don't really agree with his FFA other than Mary/Henry. Other than that, not much to go on.
Steve: Like his posts from late last night onward. Leaning good for the moment.
Frank: Overly fond of Mary for my liking maybe, but not much to go on.
Abigail: Nothing wolfy at all that I can see. Might be a wolf playing a good game!
Vernon: Nothing wolfy at all. Same as above.
Gabriel: There was just one thing really: why vote Oisin as a 'placeholder' in the lynch thread? As I understand it, isn't that backroom idiom? Could it be a mistake? I didn't like it.
Henry: I think he might be on a team with Mary, or he could be a wolf waiting to be activated in some way; which is something I proposed yesterday. The other possibility is he's just a mad NRV who is going to leave everyone scratching their heads after he's dead. I haven't enjoyed Henry's play but he's obviously under instructions of some sort and it might not be his fault.
Orla, Phil and Wendy: Not much posting from these three at all. I said earlier that there could be a low-lying wolf in the low posters and I might come back to it if they don't put a shift in, although if Wendy kills a wolf, we can probably put her down as village obviously. But where has Wendy's bullet gone?
Right folks, no one can accuse me of not doing any work.
Going to vote Mary based on reasoning above.
Holy god.........
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114421480&postcount=943
Read this one over yourselves....
First things first: dead
Initially, I suspected Steve, Nigel and Clodagh
but Nigel and Clodagh might be on a team,
Holly dead
Holly could move someone's vote. So if Holly wanted to move someone's vote, where would she move it to? I would say to the person she voted for: in this case, it was Mary, who would have been lynched. So the question I have is what happened that Holly couldn't move a vote to Mary? She already knew she was dead at 9.03pm:
not sure i get this line of thinking, i'm confused by it.
Mary made a late switch to Holly, after she earlier had said Holly was the only one who she 'had as good'? is this true?
could be spewing mary here... need to look into it.
Her first posts off the bat today seem to want everyone to ignore her because she's 'cleared' by Henry.
i think mary is getting spewed here......
and got to the end... don't think mary and katie are on same team.
imho, mary is spewed..... spurt....
katie/orla interaction.Who were you looking for?
katie/orla interaction.You could surely say who you were looking for without revealing who you are.I don't think we can really see much from the bandwagon. Pre-Orla votes might be more helpful. I really hope this isn't a ploy by Gabriel to save a wolf and we've fallen for it hook, line and sinker.
post gab reveal
more post gab reveal, orla caught.Lolcats are out I guess, so no ploy.Agree with this after the latest happenings, although might have Frank ahead of Clodagh, not sure; have to look back on voting in detail.
frank is more villa than me
why would gabs bus?Why would he bus when Orla was on one vote and perfectly safe?
still frank ahead of meI have you as village lean after briefly skimming the votes, highlighted by others. I'm just not sure I'd put you ahead of Frank at the mo who was on Orla for a while.Wendy doesn't have a thought process. She didn't mention me at all.
@Abigail,
I had an FFA both nights. Fiona, Henry, Steve night one. Mary and Henry night two.
Re: Why you suspected Phil and I.
Almost everyone was on a single vote wagon D1.
That's not true. I voted Mary around 7.30 and wrote a virtual essay on her beforehand. Switched to Orla after Gabriel's reveal like most.
Wary of anti spew from here on, but i'll continue for another bit.
actually, .. no i wont. i think they were at anti spew from here.0 -
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