Oceans 11 Werewolf Game Thread

Gabriel WW

Abi will be looking bad if Nigel flips green.

He flips red, you IMO....not the majority of the village is the nect best wolf.

Its not some conspiracy, its all based off the information WE ALL HAVE.

What dont you get?

Rikand

Day 4: Automated Votals from #121 to #131

Nigel WW (10): Phil WW, Frank WW, Wendy WW, Abigail WW, Steve WW, Clodagh WW, Gabriel WW, Barbara WW, Oisin WW, Mary WW
Not voting (1): Nigel WW

IT IS NIGHT

Barbara WW

Rikand wrote: »

Day 4: Automated Votals from #121 to #131

Nigel WW (10): Phil WW, Frank WW, Wendy WW, Abigail WW, Steve WW, Clodagh WW, Gabriel WW, Barbara WW, Oisin WW, Mary WW
Not voting (1): Nigel WW

IT IS NIGHT

Did not see that coming

Abigail WW

Rikand wrote: »

Day 4: Automated Votals from #121 to #131

Nigel WW (10): Phil WW, Frank WW, Wendy WW, Abigail WW, Steve WW, Clodagh WW, Gabriel WW, Barbara WW, Oisin WW, Mary WW
Not voting (1): Nigel WW

IT IS NIGHT

Self vote for Nigel tomorrow nite so

Rikand

The heist was going brilliantly for the team and terry knew he was in trouble. However, he remained graceful in defeat to the bitter end. "I think we should let him just walk out of here with dignity", someone said. And they did.

Nigel WW, you are Terry Benedict



You are the Protected Wolf Seer. You never go to see any ne'er do well alone so you are always well protected by your two bodyguards. To that end, you cannot be killed while both of your two Goons is alive. If one of the Goons has been killed, then you will be exposed and be available for death, but until then death will simply pass you by.

You are also the wolf seer and every night starting night 1, you can target someone and their role information will be revealed to you

Night actions due by 8am

Rikand

Sorry again about my absence today. Just couldnt be helped. And no, kids not back to school until Monday :pac:

Clodagh WW

Role seer, yay, feel better with abi now

Gabriel WW

Abi.... well played.

Sorry for any doubt.

Gabriel WW

So Im happy with Mary for my vote tomorrow.

Mary
Clodagh
Oisin
Babs
Wendy to a lesser degree.

These are my suspects and Mary is based off the information most likely a wolf.

As you were

Abigail WW

I’m going to have a look at Oisin tomorrow. @Steve can you throw a protect on me please

Gabriel WW

Abigail WW wrote: »

I’m going to have a look at Oisin tomorrow. @Steve can you throw a protect on me please

Id agree with this strategy

Barbara WW

Abigail WW wrote: »

I’m going to have a look at Oisin tomorrow. @Steve can you throw a protect on me please

Praise be!

Mary WW

day 1 voting:

Day 1: Automated Votals from #1 to #32

Fiona WW (1): Katie WW
Holly WW (3): Mary WW, Steve WW, Clodagh WW
Katie WW (1): Phil WW
Nigel WW (2): Frank WW, Abigail WW
Mary WW (2): Nigel WW, Holly WW
Clodagh WW (2): Orla WW, Barbara WW
Steve WW (2): Oisin WW, Gabriel WW
Frank WW (1): Vernon WW
Henry WW (1): Henry WW
Barbara WW (1): Fiona WW
Not voting (2): Riona WW, Wendy WW


think this is correct?

Day 2: Automated Votals from #41 to #60

Nigel WW (5):Gabriel WW, Mary WW, Henry WW, Abigail WW, Barbara WW
Mary WW (2):Oisin WW, Katie WW
Henry WW (3):Steve WW, Wendy WW, Vernon WW
Orla WW (1): Frank WW
Gabriel WW (1): Clodagh WW
Abigail WW (1): Nigel WW
Not voting (2): , Orla WW, Phil WW


So this is how the voting looked before Gabs made his reveal (#1249)

not sure how much we can take from this. will need to check the time of the reveal.
hopefully we can narrow down the pool based on all vote patters. well that what i'll try to do


day 3

Henry WW 7 Frank WW Steve WW Vernon WW Clodagh WW Mary WW Katie WW Gabriel WW
Katie WW 5 Phil WW Wendy WW Abigail WW Nigel WW Barbara WW
Mary WW 1 Oisin WW


day 2 and 3 is hard to draw proper conclusions due to gabriel reveal of orla, and the mod kill

looking at night 1, it doesn't look good for me

Mary WW

Fiona WW (1): Katie WW
Holly WW (3): Mary WW, Steve WW, Clodagh WW
Katie WW (1): Phil WW
Nigel WW (2): Frank WW, Abigail WW
Mary WW (2): Nigel WW, Holly WW
Clodagh WW (2): Orla WW, Barbara WW
Steve WW (2): Oisin WW, Gabriel WW
Frank WW (1): Vernon WW
Henry WW (1): Henry WW
Barbara WW (1): Fiona WW
Not voting (2): Riona WW, Wendy WW

last nights votes.

so i'm gonna work on the assumption that whoever voted for someone with 2 votes are not on the same team, as it is too close.

ie: nigel not on a team with frank or abigail
mary not on a team with nigel or holly
clodagh not on a team with orla or barbara
steve not on a team with oisin or gabriel

based on this:

therefore frank and abigail are good
therefore mary good
therefore clodagh good


which means the last wolf is:

barbara
steve
oisin
gabriel

1 of those 4.

any seer peeks, peek 1 of those.


obviously for the above to work, you need to trust that i'm not a wolf and therefore my 3 votes on n1 were irrelevant.

Mary WW

then based on night 2 before orla, 3 of those are on Nigel. i suggest peeking oisin if there is a seer out there.

again, based on me being good. which you can believe or not.

Clodagh WW

@ phil, can you tell us anything about what you stole today and hows it panning out? guessing you will have stealed a peek, so can double up on peeks, just don't overlap with who abi peeks.

Wendy WW

Nice work ABI

I doubted cause of the quietness of the thread.

Mary WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Nice work ABI

I doubted cause of the quietness of the thread.

why didnt you vote night 1?

Wendy WW

Mary WW wrote: »

why didnt you vote night 1?

That was a long time ago, was it Monday? . I can't recall if I was on the phone, distracted by TV, still working, or out for a walk ....and lost track of time.

Tonight I got distracted by a social visit and a bottle of wine but I knew I'd voted.

Gabriel WW

Clodagh earned some cred with her spots on Nigels story.

Mary still looks bad from the late switch to Henry on night 3.

Tomorrow will be fun

Mary WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

That was a long time ago, was it Monday? . I can't recall if I was on the phone, distracted by TV, still working, or out for a walk ....and lost track of time.

Tonight I got distracted by a social visit and a bottle of wine but I knew I'd voted.

you'd also be equally good to peek as oisin

Mary WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Clodagh earned some cred with her spots on Nigels story.

Mary still looks bad from the late switch to Henry on night 3.

Tomorrow will be fun

come on! she essentially said she was a good character. i switched based on that.

Wendy WW

Mary WW wrote: »

you'd also be equally good to peek as oisin

Pardon?

Mary WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Pardon?

are you cleared good?

Gabriel WW

Mary WW wrote: »

come on! she essentially said she was a good character. i switched based on that.

I still think a wolf would be in the Henry voters..... yoi afe the best candidate. You havent caught a wolf or aided like everyone else on Henry.

Its the process elimination, the wolf is most likely you.

Mary WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

I still think a wolf would be in the Henry voters..... yoi afe the best candidate. You havent caught a wolf or aided like everyone else on Henry.

Its the process elimination, the wolf is most likely you.

henry was good. dont see how everyone bar me could have aided on that.

whats your process of elimination to arrive on me?

my reasons for someone to peek oisin (and then wendy) are spelt out. how i arrived at those conclusions. you may disagree, but its spelt out in 1 post.

Clodagh WW

Oh bugger. I posted in the wrong thread....

Mary WW wrote: »

i like my theory :pac:

if the wolves had 2 kills last night, 1 munch and 1 bullet.
someone munched or protected..thats fine
mary shot.

wendy is then cleared of being a wolf as much as is possible because she claims my death is her vig shot rather than a wolf bullet.

so i'm guessing with orla dead, they lost a bullet last night. which wendy was claiming as a vig bullet.

13:34

Mary WW wrote: »

##Vote Wendy WW

13:39

Katie WW wrote: »

Right final post I typed out earlier.

I wrote a long post yesterday mostly on Mary. She survived the night despite being targeted by Wendy, who said she sent the order early. Wendy telegraphed her shot on Mary, bad move imo. Today she says she didn't shoot Mary and she shot me, despite not even mentioning me once until an hour ago. I didn't get any notification of any shot or protect. Serious question marks over what Wendy is up to;  already, a low poster contributing little, with reasoning and claims all over the place. she moves up on my list; but for now I'm happy to settle on Mary.

Mary had a lynch vote power, she said as much, so she couldn't protect herself. Was she being protected by a fellow wolf? Or is Wendy her teammate and the minor friction between them all for show? Leaving Wendy aside, no villager has claimed to have protected Mary for any reason. She is one of the top posters; take away the guff and fluff and you're left with little of any substance. 

This is more leap to conclusion, contradictory stuff posted today. Players can't be cleared based on claims, instead of claims and corroboration e.g. Gabriel.  Gabriel is the only one cleared for me at this stage, unless he's a rogue/mad wolf; highly unlikely.




Unless I'm misunderstanding, this theory makes little sense imo and looks more like a charade to explain why she isn't dead (this theory might actually help me: re: Phil's claim-but I think it's illogical tbh). It confuses me Frankly. As Gabriel said:



I'm still voting for Mary. I might change for self-pres or if we get another Gabrielesque reveal, that's it.

18:40

Katie WW wrote: »

##Vote Mary WW

18:42

Mary WW wrote: »

clodagh has blocking power who blocked wendy's bullet
phil stole that power and blocked katie
wendy had a bullet who shot katie - didnt work because clodagh

oisin says to trust wendy
steve is the BG who protected frank
gabriel outted orla last night with a follow power involving riona


based on phil blocking katie, i'm changing to katie. with only 1 (failed) munch last night she must be a wolf vig

20:13

Mary WW wrote: »

##Vote Katie WW

20:14

Mary WW wrote: »

Originally Posted by Katie WW View Post
Peek. Happy? I tried to peek Clodagh last night. It was blocked.

I got the peek after tasking yesterday. I mentioned Rusty, Pits, Crapshoot in my posts..

I said the lynch was the Pits.

I peeked Clodagh because I wanted to confirm him as villager.

fook. i hate this late stuff!

stick or twist?

Mary WW wrote: »

##Vote Henry WW

20:54

Katie WW wrote: »

##Vote Henry WW

20:57



While I can see why mary comes off wendy, i don't see why she went on wnedy in the first place.

@mary....
you state,
"wendy is then cleared of being a wolf as much as is possible because she claims my death is her vig shot rather than a wolf bullet. " at 13:34 yesterday, and place a vote on her at 13:39.

Please walk me through those 5 minutes, where she is cleared of being a wolf and you voting for her.

Mary WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

Oh bugger. I posted in the wrong thread....



13:34
13:39
18:40

18:42
20:13

20:14



20:54


20:57



While I can see why mary comes off wendy, i don't see why she went on wnedy in the first place.

@mary....
you state,
"wendy is then cleared of being a wolf as much as is possible because she claims my death is her vig shot rather than a wolf bullet. " at 13:34 yesterday, and place a vote on her at 13:39.

Please walk me through those 5 minutes, where she is cleared of being a wolf and you voting for her.

my original theory wendy was a wolf with a bullet, and was going to claim it as a vig with a bullet. ie: the vigilante claim was cover for her wolf bullet.

therefore it gives her villaregy points as a vig, albeit one that would have shot a villager

Mary WW

dunno if i explained that very well. my original theory:

Wendy was a wolf. her or a team mate had a bullet.
wendy claims she is a vigilante with a bullet and shoots me
i flip green, wendy apologies and is now just a NRV
so the wolves wont munch her,
some people believe her vigilante claim and clear her of being a wolf.


that was my theory. there's prob more to it than that. i think i explain it better in an earlier post but thats the bones of it.

some theory though!

Clodagh WW

Mary WW wrote: »

dunno if i explained that very well. my original theory:

Wendy was a wolf. her or a team mate had a bullet.
wendy claims she is a vigilante with a bullet and shoots me
i flip green, wendy apologies and is now just a NRV
so the wolves wont munch her,
some people believe her vigilante claim and clear her of being a wolf.


that was my theory. there's prob more to it than that. i think i explain it better in an earlier post but thats the bones of it.

some theory though!

okay, i think i get it.


when you state "wendy is then cleared of being a wolf as much as is possible because she claims my death is her vig shot rather than a wolf bullet. " you are listing possible motivations for why she is doing things, not for how you are feeling.

I am having difficulty getting into this way off thinking.

I can understand all your other movements on day three vote,
leaving wendy because oisin vouched for wendy,
leaving katie because she mentioned some character, although, i had no idea myself anything about this character, but its been nearly 2 decades since i seen the film and can't remember jack from it.