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Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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    #452
    Gerry Hatrick
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    big syke wrote: »
    Why Dublin??

    Its Wicklow the worry there. 10% vs 0.5% of population infected. Dublin is actually lowest as % of population of all those counties.

    Dublin in the major transport hub for the country. With schools returning and the country opening up the increasing numbers there are an issue.


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    #453
    ACitizenErased
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    big syke wrote: »
    Why Dublin??

    Its Wicklow the worry there. 10% vs 0.5% of population infected. Dublin is actually lowest as % of population of all those counties.

    Dublin’s incidence is higher than ~16/17 other counties. It’s a worry. Dominating the figures again.


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    #454
    bodhrandude
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    MD1990 wrote: »
    schools closed in Dundee.
    17 teachers test positive.

    But we have Nolan who says no evidence of transmission in schools. They been closed since March.

    It is madness that schools are opening in kildare while in lockdown

    Feck my sister is a teacher in school in Dundee just messaged her there and hoping she is safe and well.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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    #455
    MD1990
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    schools needed for mental health.

    But when there is an outbreak schools will shut down & then re open.
    Some older teachers or grandparents of pupils will get seriously ill or die.

    Schools then will re open & the same cycle again.
    Doesnt sound too great for mental health.

    But it seems to just be ingrained in many leaders heads that schools have to open.

    While people cannot attend sports events outside despite evidence outdoors is up tp 19 times less risk.

    The anxiety some older teachers will have too not being considered either.


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    #456
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not sure if this has to be peer reviewed yet and hopefully very small number of cases. https://twitter.com/KarenGrepin/status/1297841334900756480?s=19

    I'm fed up at this stage. Only a few days ago, I read something about no chance of re-infection. And here we are again with a possibility of re-infection.

    Next it'll be no chance of re-infection and then you can get it again and no chance and you can get it again.


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    #457
    stephenjmcd
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    big syke wrote: »
    Why Dublin??

    Its Wicklow the worry there. 10% vs 0.5% of population infected. Dublin is actually lowest as % of population of all those counties.

    Wicklow is a direct provision centre in Bray.

    Wouldn't be a big worry unless there was community spread as a result


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    #458
    podgeandrodge
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Schools will be closing down and reopening all over the country at various times. It is to be expected, and what is happening with that school in Dundee is what we will see here at some stage. They are an essential service however so we have to run schools. We don't have to open pubs

    That's a shockingly naive view on the importance of pubs, they're an extremely essential service, to me :pac:


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    #459
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not sure if this has to be peer reviewed yet and hopefully very small number of cases. https://twitter.com/KarenGrepin/status/1297841334900756480?s=19

    Hang on. This is not another example of people saying it's not possible because there is no evidence. Cue fierce debate where
    • "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"
    • "you are a misery merchant"
    • "people need to man up people will get and some will die."
    • "schools are safe to open"
    • "it's not a travel related disease and planes have filters"
    • "reinfection impossible"
    • masks don't work

    Some months pass then the evidence comes out. Nobody wants to talk about it then.


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    #460
    Goldengirl
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    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Yes but there travelling to other countries. There a threat to the rest of the country and always have been.

    No , dm, other counties ? are traveling to Dublin :)


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    #461
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    It would suggest that the infection was passed among the teachers .

    The teachers need to distance themselves from other teachers. No excuses not too. That outbreak had nothing to do with school as such very poor workplace practice.


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    #462
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Boris says risk of kids in school is very very very small.

    He also said just wash your hands and you should be fine.



    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1297815768915234827?s=20


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    #463
    the corpo
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Dublin’s incidence is higher than ~16/17 other counties. It’s a worry. Dominating the figures again.

    You never say you're worried! Eek!


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    #464
    NIMAN
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    We have 6 people in ICU today with CV19.

    Surely that's a pretty good figure?
    I think often the negative slant is put on news reports.


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    #465
    fits
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    We have 6 people in ICU today with CV19.

    Surely that's a pretty good figure?
    I think often the negative slant is put on news reports.

    28 in hospital now though. It’s climbing again.



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    #466
    Funsterdelux
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    We have 6 people in ICU today with CV19.

    Surely that's a pretty good figure?
    I think often the negative slant is put on news reports.

    Nothings good above 0


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    #467
    seanb85
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Dublin’s incidence is higher than ~16/17 other counties. It’s a worry. Dominating the figures again.

    They really need to make clear where community transmission is occurring, if it's mostly Dublin they need more restrictive measures there and possibly in surrounding areas.


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    #468
    AdamD
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    Similar to junior doctors, are the government going to be in for a fright when they realise the amount of teachers who live together? All likely teaching in different schools but living together since college..

    The amount of disruption that could be caused by a single infection in some cases could be massive


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    #469
    OscarMIlde
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    ElTel wrote: »
    Is the cycle threshold number used by Doctors to infer how long into the illness a symptomatic patient is?
    Yes, it's dependent on the amount of virus in the sample but as the library of tests and nursing/treatment knowledge grew where the hospitals able to include the ct no. in official protocols?

    Do all countries use the same PCR test/look for the same bits of RNA?

    The CT value in this case won't really give an indication of how much viral load the patient has as there is no control gene to compare it to (the only control with these tests is a spiked sample to control for the lysis step as far as I'm aware). A lower CT value is indicative of more sample material but that is just as likely be down to amount of swabbed sample rather than patient viral load.


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    #470
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,683 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Nothings good above 0

    But 6 is better than 10.

    Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

    The mantra was and still should be:

    Wash your hands, cough etiquette, wear a mask, and keep your distance.

    Also, restrict your social interaction.


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    #471
    Renjit
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Boris says risk of kids in school is very very very small.

    He also said just wash your hands and you should be fine.



    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1297815768915234827?s=20

    :pac:


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    #472
    Renjit
    Registered Users Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    the corpo wrote: »
    You never say you're worried! Eek!

    Be a warrior, not a worrier.


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    #473
    wadacrack
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    Devastating news . Hopefully not a common occurrence

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1297881830025297920


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    #474
    NIMAN
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    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Nothings good above 0

    Not sure if this is a serious reply or being sarcastic?

    There could be more than 6 people in ICU today due to car crashes or something else.

    I think 6 is an amazing figure...out of 5.5 million.


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    #475
    SeaBreezes
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    Devastating news . Hopefully not a common occurrence

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1297881830025297920

    Hospitalised first time, asymptomatic second id say thats good news :)


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    #476
    BattleCorp
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    Devastating news . Hopefully not a common occurrence

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1297881830025297920

    I wonder did he catch a different strain of COVID-19?


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    #477
    hmmm
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    Devastating news . Hopefully not a common occurrence
    Not sure I'd describe it as "devastating". If this was common we'd be seeing a lot more of it. The first infection he was hospitalised, the second he was asymptomatic.


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    #478
    Ger Roe
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    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    Hospitalised first time, asymptomatic second id say thats good news :)

    Not good news for ease of transmission though.


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    #479
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    Hospitalised first time, asymptomatic second id say thats good news :)

    It means it could be an endemic disease. That's a very naive outlook to have on it.


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    #480
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,484 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    Hospitalised first time, asymptomatic second id say thats good news :)

    Not great that he was able to contract the virus a second time, so much for herd immunity. We face continuous waves as the virus mutates, hopefully in time it becomes much less potent. This is terrible news, not good news.


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    #481
    Gerry Hatrick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Devastating news . Hopefully not a common occurrence

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1297881830025297920

    Game changer. Herd immunity not an option now.


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