The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

Nobotty

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Would one be correct in saying that sinn fein got approval off the last remaining members of the.1st dail??

Was that a quorum :pac:

James Brown

mynamejeff wrote: »

sf ira and the dissidents feeling like they have achieved something with the death of a garda


must be just like the good old days for you guys

Working very hard to try turn any comment into a dig at SF. Not much in the way of a discussion but what ever floats your boat.

mynamejeff

Bowie wrote: »

I certainly don't understand what you are on about. I'm okay with that.

I am unsurprised by you as usual matt.

is it time for another new name ? mary o shea perhaps

mynamejeff

Bowie wrote: »

Working very hard to try turn any comment into a dig at SF. Not much in the way of a discussion but what ever floats your boat.

sure them sf lads founded the state right ? :):)

James Brown

mynamejeff wrote: »

I am unsurprised by you as usual matt.

is it time for another new name ? mary o shea perhaps

Ran out of road?
Point being the cost is not of paramount concern and its not believable that any in FF/FG are concerned considering what they get up to for their own.
The Storey and Horkan funerals were identical in flouting Covid. End of. Both should have been handled better.

FrancieBrady

Bowie wrote: »

Ran out of road?
Point being the cost is not of paramount concern and its not believable that any in FF/FG are concerned considering what they get up to for their own.
The Storey and Horkan funerals were identical in flouting Covid. End of. Both should have been handled better.

They're getting real desperate now. All the outrage they can manage to throw is coming out.

Necro

mynamejeff wrote: »

sf ira and the dissidents feeling like they have achieved something with the death of a garda


must be just like the good old days for you guys

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Don't post in this thread again

Solutionking

Deleted User wrote: »

Would one be correct in saying that sinn fein got approval off the last remaining members of the.1st dail??

Did the current Sinn Fein form the state? as claimed by the poster. Yes/no?

FrancieBrady

Solutionking wrote: »

Did the current Sinn Fein form the state? as claimed by the poster. Yes/no?

Your contention that the IRA formed the 'current' SF is a nonsense.

There is a direct line back to the original SF. It split in the 70's the 'current' SF deciding to stick with abstentionism from Westminster.

Nobotty

FrancieBrady wrote: »

They're getting real desperate now. All the outrage they can manage to throw is coming out.

I wouldn't say its a they
Its individuals, keyboard warriors arguing with little else to do in their spare time
There is an irrational political apartheid applied to Sinn Féin by some and its wrong and misguided
They've no respect for the principles of the good Friday agreement

As well as that,Sinn Féin IMO are a populist party
Their popularity would stall or slide if they were in government here making peoples lives worse despite what they agitate on route to office
They won't want that
Besides again,they'd be entering a coalition, meaning more than just their view will always prevail in government

James Brown

Nobotty wrote: »

I wouldn't say its a they
Its individuals, keyboard warriors arguing with little else to do in their spare time
There is an irrational political apartheid applied to Sinn Féin by some and its wrong and misguided
They've no respect for the principles of the good Friday agreement

As well as that,Sinn Féin IMO are a populist party
Their popularity would stall or slide if they were in government here making peoples lives worse despite what they agitate on route to office
They won't want that
Besides again,they'd be entering a coalition, meaning more than just their view will always prevail in government

I think it only sensible to treat SF exactly like FF/FG should they behave in such a manner.
I hope they don't. They won't have the opportunity Kenny's FG had to build the country but I hope they don't squander the moves they might have.

markodaly

Bowie wrote: »

You got it reversed. The Horkan funeral had Calleary and Flanagan and its never raised where the storey one is a go to each time FF/FG embarrass themselves.

Nobody has defended them. We see this yarn posted every so often. Merely claims of hypocrisy from hypocrites. This isn't defending SF either by the way.

Did FG and FF send out an email to its members telling them that the Horkan funeral was a public affair.
People comparing this funeral to the Bobby Storey political rally are engaging dishonestly.

The Horkan funeral was a hugely reduced affair. The president didn't attend, the Taoiseach didn't attend. Normally there would be hundreds if not thousands of Gardai at it, in this case there was nothing like that.
And lets not forget, he was a member of the states police force.

Covid changed that funeral hugely, while the Bobby Storey funeral it was SF/IRA business as usual for a common criminal and an abuser of women, with a political rally at a cemetery for a person/body who was not even going to be buried there.

Its a completely dishonest argument.

blanch152

McMurphy wrote: »

Didn't blanch try and imply a state funeral was exempt from having to follow the HSE guidelines about social distancing etc.

Has that story changed again?

Deleted User wrote: »

One would have to enquire,if harris and flanagan attendence was mandatory at said event....should martin resign for not doing his job ,by staying away



A strange corner,poor blanch has painted himself into

When Sinn Fein are in trouble, attack the messenger. Sad but true.

Fann Linn

Solutionking wrote: »

Did the current Sinn Fein form the state? as claimed by the poster. Yes/no?

What have SF contributed to the state or the EU since it's inception? Was the question.

Please read it correctly.

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

Did FG and FF send out an email to its members telling them that the Horkan funeral was a public affair.
People comparing this funeral to the Bobby Storey political rally are engaging dishonestly.

The Horkan funeral was a hugely reduced affair. The president didn't attend, the Taoiseach didn't attend. Normally there would be hundreds if not thousands of Gardai at it, in this case there was nothing like that.
And lets not forget, he was a member of the states police force.

Covid changed that funeral hugely, while the Bobby Storey funeral it was SF/IRA business as usual for a common criminal and an abuser of women, with a political rally at a cemetery for a person/body who was not even going to be buried there.

Its a completely dishonest argument.

All irrelevant. Both had crowds not socially distance. Thats it. Your post is just a futile attempt to find some differences.

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

Did FG and FF send out an email to its members telling them that the Horkan funeral was a public affair.
People comparing this funeral to the Bobby Storey political rally are engaging dishonestly.

The Horkan funeral was a hugely reduced affair. The president didn't attend, the Taoiseach didn't attend. Normally there would be hundreds if not thousands of Gardai at it, in this case there was nothing like that.
And lets not forget, he was a member of the states police force.

Covid changed that funeral hugely, while the Bobby Storey funeral it was SF/IRA business as usual for a common criminal and an abuser of women, with a political rally at a cemetery for a person/body who was not even going to be buried there.

Its a completely dishonest argument.

Most of that is just your opinion and reason for not going to the man's funeral.

Doesn't change the fact that both funerals got it wrong. The PSNI will not be deliberating on your opinion of either SF or the man.

mattser

Up Cavan ����

blanch152

markodaly wrote: »

Did FG and FF send out an email to its members telling them that the Horkan funeral was a public affair.
People comparing this funeral to the Bobby Storey political rally are engaging dishonestly.

The Horkan funeral was a hugely reduced affair. The president didn't attend, the Taoiseach didn't attend. Normally there would be hundreds if not thousands of Gardai at it, in this case there was nothing like that.
And lets not forget, he was a member of the states police force.

Covid changed that funeral hugely, while the Bobby Storey funeral it was SF/IRA business as usual for a common criminal and an abuser of women, with a political rally at a cemetery for a person/body who was not even going to be buried there.

Its a completely dishonest argument.

You have hit the nail on the head, and the example shown by Sinn Fein at that funeral as well as Arlene not knowing what to do have combined to see people die as a result. Not that people dying ever bothered SinnFein, they often celebrated it.

Not a normal political party

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

You have hit the nail on the head, and the example shown by Sinn Fein at that funeral as well as Arlene not knowing what to do have combined to see people die as a result. Not that people dying ever bothered SinnFein, they often celebrated it.

Not a normal political party

Political potshots using the death of people in a pandemic. The bar lowered again.

blanch152

Fann Linn wrote: »

What have SF contributed to the state or the EU since it's inception? Was the question.

Please read it correctly.

A very short answer - nothing.

markodaly

Bowie wrote: »

All irrelevant. Both had crowds not socially distance. Thats it. Your post is just a futile attempt to find some differences.

Not irrelevant, but inconvenient for some here, because the Horkan funeral is used a s a shield against the Bobby Storey political rally.
Let us not forget that SF lied about the funeral, saying that the PSNI agreed to it.

Running for cover is now what we are seeing here.

It is easy to find differences because there were are are many differences. Only a fool would think the world is that black and white, where all funerals are the same.

It's like saying a funeral with 10 people, where 3 of those don't socially distance for a few moments is like saying its the same as this.







Now we have some truth that SF asked its members to attend this funeral.....
People who defend this action and use the Garda Horkan funeral as a shield are being dishonest.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Political potshots using the death of people in a pandemic. The bar lowered again.

There is a direct line between the Storey funeral and the decline in numbers in the North. Prior to the Storey funeral, the North was actually doing slightly better than the South. That event tipped the numbers, whether as a direct effect or the indirect example shown by Michelle et al.

It is quite stark. There is no doubt people have died as a result of the callous example shown by Sinn Fein. A tipping point in the pandemic is what the figures show.

In a normal party it would be the end of the road for Michelle and Mary-Lou.

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

Not irrelevant, but inconvenient for some here, because the Horkan funeral is used a s a shield against the Bobby Storey political rally.
Let us not forget that SF lied about the funeral, saying that the PSNI agreed to it.

Running for cover is now what we are seeing here.

It is easy to find differences because there were are are many differences. Only a fool would think the world is that black and white, where all funerals are the same.

It's like saying a funeral with 10 people, where 3 of those don't socially distance for a few moments is like saying its the same as this.







Now we have some truth that SF asked its members to attend this funeral.....
People who defend this action and use the Garda Horkan funeral as a shield are being dishonest.

Inconvenient how? Both were wrong for the same reasons. Its not a competition. All you've done is explain irrelevance in an effort to differentiate between two funerals, wrong for the same reason. Lack of social distancing.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

There is a direct line between the Storey funeral and the decline in numbers in the North. Prior to the Storey funeral, the North was actually doing slightly better than the South. That event tipped the numbers, whether as a direct effect or the indirect example shown by Michelle et al.

It is quite stark. There is no doubt people have died as a result of the callous example shown by Sinn Fein. A tipping point in the pandemic is what the figures show.

In a normal party it would be the end of the road for Michelle and Mary-Lou.

Self serving unbacked up nonsense which could be said of the many mistakes made with social distancing across the island.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Self serving unbacked up nonsense which could be said of the many mistakes made with social distancing across the island.

Do the numbers lie?

Can you refute the trend?

smurgen

People are still talking about a funeral up north. My god. Wait til they hear all the scandals that have broke in the south since!

James Brown

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Self serving unbacked up nonsense which could be said of the many mistakes made with social distancing across the island.

Its pretty pathetic. Months later, we've moved on. It was wrong. Nobody has defended it yet some want to ignore one instance to try make points off another. Its all been said. We're all going in circles. Sad.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Do the numbers lie?

Can you refute the trend?

We're in Level 5...there is a direct line back to Clifden. Do the numbers lie? Can you refute it?

Don't mind political debate blanch but please stop using victims. You really need to ask yourself a few questions about that habit.

FrancieBrady

Bowie wrote: »

Its pretty pathetic. Months later, we've moved on. It was wrong. Nobody has defended it yet some want to ignore one instance to try make points off another. Its all been said. We're all going in circles. Sad.

Pathetic it is. And sad when the victims get exploited again.
Not going to give them anymore oxygen. It's become a twisted smokescreen for everything else that's going on.

McMurphy

blanch152 wrote: »

When Sinn Fein are in trouble, attack the messenger. Sad but true.

Blanch, stop the act - you did try and spoof - got promptly called out, and now try and play the victim.

There was no exception ref social distancing guidelines at either the Storey funeral, or the funeral of Garda Horkan.

One of us seemed to be trying to spoof. Which one of us do you think it was?