The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

On the contrary, if it's a tweet from a FG councilor admiring the fascist blueshirts it's dismissed or ignored. Not that one cancels out the other.

Desperation stakes, more whataboutery.

let's see what Catherine Murphy does, it will be interesting to see whether she sticks to her principles as she shouted them out today, or whether she backs down and allows Stanley to continue.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Was just listening the Six-One News, they had a lengthy piece on Brian Stanley ahead of a very short piece on Finucane. A pity that the vile shenanigans of Stanley distracted from the issues in the Finucane case.

Do you think Simon will now call out the British for not being interested in reconciliation? Tell them their mask has slipped? Or is that kind of language only reserved for those challenging you in the polls?

The UK Government’s decision on whether to order a public inquiry into Pat Finucane’s murder will signal if it is committed to truth and reconciliation, Ireland’s foreign affairs minister has said

blanch152

KarlMarks wrote: »

I don't know why Stanley needed to apologize or why SF are apologising on his behalf. Stupid. I grew up in the 70's and 80's as a committed supporter of violent armed struggle to remove the British from Ireland, abolish the puppet government in Dublin, and create a 32 county socialist Republic based on the principles of Pearse and Connolly. I disagreed with ending the armed resistance, but now accept it was for the best. What I don't want is Provisional SF trying to become just like the other Free State establishment bastards. Own your history and own your wants, to get the Brits out of Ireland, and to ****ing break the Free State traitors. Hopefully Ogra SF have more revolutionary members than their increasingly cosy 26 county arm.

Wow, just wow. I remember reading stories in the 1980s of Japanese prisoners of war emerging out of the jungle thinking WWII was still going. Just realised we have our own Irish versions who are still fighting a losing vile terrorist campaign.

KarlMarks

Nobotty wrote: »

Where does democracy come into all that though,?

Provisional SF decided to pursue exclusively democratic means when they signed up to the peace process. That doesn't mean their goals have changed, and I don't consider their progress to be radical or quick enough to be honest. The goal of all Irish Republicans is to remove the British from Ireland, disband the pupttet government in Dublin, and create a new Republic based on socialism. Any movement away from those goals and what was the point.
Stanley pointed out that two miliatry campaigns against a foreign force on these lands were successful. That should be applauded by all Irish Republicans.Shameful of 26 county PSF to go apologising for what was a proper Irish republican viewpoint.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Do you think Simon will now call out the British for not being interested in reconciliation? Tell them their mask has slipped? Or is that kind of language only reserved for those challenging you in the polls?

You just quoted him!! Next time the Tories run some candidates for the Dail, I am sure he will point it out during the election campaign.

I think the lesson learned in the last few days is that Northern Ireland is still a cesspit of sectarian hatred and that we are better off without it until the people up there learn to live with one another.

Solutionking

KarlMarks wrote: »

Provisional SF decided to pursue exclusively democratic means when they signed up to the peace process. That doesn't mean their goals have changed, and I don't consider their progress to be radical or quick enough to be honest. The goal of all Irish Republicans is to remove the British from Ireland, disband the pupttet government in Dublin, and create a new Republic based on socialism. Any movement away from those goals and what was the point.
Stanley pointed out that two miliatry campaigns against a foreign force on these lands were successful. That should be applauded by all Irish Republicans.Shameful of 26 county PSF to go apologising for what was a proper Irish republican viewpoint.

KarlMarks wrote: »

I don't know why Stanley needed to apologize or why SF are apologising on his behalf. Stupid. I grew up in the 70's and 80's as a committed supporter of violent armed struggle to remove the British from Ireland, abolish the puppet government in Dublin, and create a 32 county socialist Republic based on the principles of Pearse and Connolly. I disagreed with ending the armed resistance, but now accept it was for the best. What I don't want is Provisional SF trying to become just like the other Free State establishment bastards. Own your history and own your wants, to get the Brits out of Ireland, and to ****ing break the Free State traitors. Hopefully Ogra SF have more revolutionary members than their increasingly cosy 26 county arm.

After a hard day at work I was looking to cheer myself up. This is hillarious. Keep it up young lad you are hillarious.

Brendan Bendar

Any word from Brian...... or MaryLou.


Has she the cahunas to swing the axe.

This lad as Chairman of of the PAC.......!!

We are a banana republic if this is not sorted and this lad is not ‘pulled’


Couldn’t wait to have a swing..... not leadership quality.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

You just quoted him!! Next time the Tories run some candidates for the Dail, I am sure he will point it out during the election campaign.

I think the lesson learned in the last few days is that Northern Ireland is still a cesspit of sectarian hatred and that we are better off without it until the people up there learn to live with one another.

I just quoted him from before their announcement today. This has nothing to do with votes. That old crutch to avoid having to say anything critical won't work.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I just quoted him from before their announcement today. This has nothing to do with votes. That old crutch to avoid having to say anything critical won't work.

Are you not happy that Martin called out the British government?

It seems to me that you would have preferred if Martin and Coveney had said nothing so that then you could proclaim about that. More than a little sour grapes at the way things are going. Will Stanley be on the News at Nine as well? Will the PAC tomorrow make the news tomorrow everning? People will have moved on from Finucane by then.

KarlMarks

Solutionking wrote: »

After a hard day at work I was looking to cheer myself up. This is hillarious. Keep it up young lad you are hillarious.

I'm almost 70 years of age, and have 2 bullet wounds to show how committed I was to the cause of Irish freedom. Irish Republicans were forced to put all their eggs into the PSF basket, and I don't want them getting cosy with the Dublin establishment by automatically apologising for Irish Republican military actions that struck blows against the armed forces of the foreign coloninists on this island.

PSF have gotten soft. That sickener O'Broin on the radio apologising.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

Desperation stakes, more whataboutery.

let's see what Catherine Murphy does, it will be interesting to see whether she sticks to her principles as she shouted them out today, or whether she backs down and allows Stanley to continue.

Again, I think you're arguing with your own imagination.
What am I desperate about and what part of they don't cancel each other out is whataboutery? Pointing out the one sided faux moralistic hypocrisy.

Brendan Bendar

KarlMarks wrote: »

I'm almost 70 years of age, and have 2 bullet wounds to show how committed I was to the cause of Irish freedom. Irish Republicans were forced to put all their eggs into the PSF basket, and I don't want them getting cosy with the Dublin establishment by automatically apologising for Irish Republican military actions that struck blows against the armed forces of the foreign coloninists on this island.

PSF have gotten soft. That sickener O'Broin on the radio apologising.

Two...... not too committed buddy.

Most people get up early and work for their families, pay their taxes, and don’t pump out the bulldust you pump out.

Go back to your shinebox.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Are you not happy that Martin called out the British government?

It seems to me that you would have preferred if Martin and Coveney had said nothing so that then you could proclaim about that. More than a little sour grapes at the way things are going. Will Stanley be on the News at Nine as well? Will the PAC tomorrow make the news tomorrow everning? People will have moved on from Finucane by then.

I'm sure he will, he may even have to go if as you say Catherine sees a scalp.

It isn't going to make the issue go away though. I'm fine with that, the conversation will have to be had one day. One killing = good another = bad. The routine hypocrisy.

KarlMarks

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Two...... not too committed buddy.

Most people get up early and work for their families, pay their taxes, and don’t pump out the bulldust you pump out.

Go back to your shinebox.

What worries Free Staters like you is more than just a United Ireland, it also means that the cosy little consensus you have going will finally be broken, the winks and the nods, the shady deals, the consolidation of power amongst the vested interests. The people will have spoken and asked for the socialist alternative you all fear.
It's why this has annoyed me so much. Stanley should be lauded for remembering two decisive actions against a foreign force in this island. Yet his own party are condemning it. I hope the young members of Ogra SF are more radical in their outlook as it looks like 26 county PSF is trying to become ready to become a junior coalition partner with FF or the ****ing blueshirts. **** that. Thats not what Irish Republicanism is about. Thats just more of the same.

Yeah_Right

KarlMarks wrote: »

I'm almost 70 years of age, and have 2 bullet wounds to show how committed I was to the cause of Irish freedom.

Are they in your back courtesy of the Brits or in your knees courtesy of your mates?

Bubbaclaus

KarlMarks wrote: »

I'm almost 70 years of age, and have 2 bullet wounds to show how committed I was to the cause of Irish freedom. Irish Republicans were forced to put all their eggs into the PSF basket, and I don't want them getting cosy with the Dublin establishment by automatically apologising for Irish Republican military actions that struck blows against the armed forces of the foreign coloninists on this island.

PSF have gotten soft. That sickener O'Broin on the radio apologising.

Close to 70 years old, 2 bullet holes, livinģ in a house share and investing in crypto whilst also being a communist. Amazing

IAMAMORON

KarlMarks wrote: »

Provisional SF decided to pursue exclusively democratic means when they signed up to the peace process. That doesn't mean their goals have changed, and I don't consider their progress to be radical or quick enough to be honest. The goal of all Irish Republicans is to remove the British from Ireland, disband the pupttet government in Dublin, and create a new Republic based on socialism. Any movement away from those goals and what was the point.
Stanley pointed out that two miliatry campaigns against a foreign force on these lands were successful. That should be applauded by all Irish Republicans.Shameful of 26 county PSF to go apologising for what was a proper Irish republican viewpoint.

Eugh.

Fascist spoofer.

Brendan Bendar

Now is the time for Catherine Murphy to stand up and be counted.

Not just sit in the Dáil and draw the wedge and expenses.

Time to earn your corn Catherine.

For Forks Sake

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Now is the time for Catherine Murphy to stand up and be counted.

Not just sit in the Dáil and draw the wedge and expenses.

Time to earn your corn Catherine.

Usually if she has someone in her sights, they don't get let away. Hopefully this continues

FrancieBrady

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Now is the time for Catherine Murphy to stand up and be counted.

Not just sit in the Dáil and draw the wedge and expenses.

Time to earn your corn Catherine.

Time for a few others who were very vocal last week to stand up and be counted too and follow up on what they implied when they said this.

The UK Government’s decision on whether to order a public inquiry into Pat Finucane’s murder will signal if it is committed to truth and reconciliation, Ireland’s foreign affairs minister has said

I also remember others standing up to be counted when TD's confessed to wrongdoing and people lambasting them for it.

Quick turnarounds about this place.

Brendan Bendar

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Usually if she has someone in her sights, they don't get let away. Hopefully this continues

Let’s see, these lifers need to show the electorate they are of some use.

For Forks Sake

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Let’s see, these lifers need to show the electorate they are of some use.

Hopefully nobody "has a word" with her in the interim

Solutionking

KarlMarks wrote: »

I'm almost 70 years of age, and have 2 bullet wounds to show how committed I was to the cause of Irish freedom. Irish Republicans were forced to put all their eggs into the PSF basket, and I don't want them getting cosy with the Dublin establishment by automatically apologising for Irish Republican military actions that struck blows against the armed forces of the foreign coloninists on this island.

PSF have gotten soft. That sickener O'Broin on the radio apologising.

10 years ago I was part of a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime we didn't commit. My men and me promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Cavan underground. Today, still wanted by the government, we survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.

Floppybits

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Absolutely this lad has to go, must have been like a pressure cooker in SF recently as I said it must have been like a black hole, not even the light got out.

Stanley cracked and couldn’t hold back, took the swipe, and given the ‘context’ where SF were on every media outlet, 7/24/365 pontificating
on happenings in other parties, got hit on the ‘sweet spot’ when he broke the omertà that no doubt was being organised by ML.

Even the smugster O’Broin can’t smooth over this one.

I would agree that he had to go but by the same token so does Varadkar and McEntee for their carry on, especially Varadkar. Now you were one of the people defending him and now you come on here and say this guy must go, then so should Varadkar. This is the mess the FF and FG have made for themselves their behavior over the last few weeks in defending the Varadkar and McEntee means they can't say anything about this. Coveney should have been pulled up on this today as well. Everytime a FG politician opens their mouth complaining about something that SF does then the reporter should also point out Varadkar leaking confidential document to his mate. You can't have your cake and eat.

Triangle

Solutionking wrote: »

10 years ago I was part of a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime we didn't commit. My men and me promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Cavan underground. Today, still wanted by the government, we survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.

Lol fantastic, haven't had a laugh like that in a while......

Solutionking

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Close to 70 years old, 2 bullet holes, livinģ in a house share and investing in crypto whilst also being a communist. Amazing

Grew up in the 70's but is 70. Somehow either my maths is wrong or his/her's is.

I think the odd are with me

tikkahunter

Solutionking wrote: »

Grew up in the 70's but is 70. Somehow either my maths is wrong or his/her's is.

I think the odd are with me

The wondrous world of Walter Mitty

FrancieBrady

I get the distinct feeling that Karl was here to try and wind up others and succeeded in winding up his own. Nice try Karl.

Higgins5473

blanch152 wrote: »

You just quoted him!! Next time the Tories run some candidates for the Dail, I am sure he will point it out during the election campaign.

I think the lesson learned in the last few days is that Northern Ireland is still a cesspit of sectarian hatred and that we are better off without it until the people up there learn to live with one another.

One idiotic tweet decides your thoughts on what a 32 county decision would be on the future of this island.

Idiotic Tweet by TD: Has to go
Leaking Confidential Documents by Tánaiste: Move on, mistake, “not best practice”

The hard on FFG bots here have now is pure desperation, a stupid ‘tweet’ by the opposition is your biggest achievement since the farcical disastrous and unelected coalition. Pathetic.

rdwight

KarlMarks wrote: »

Provisional SF decided to pursue exclusively democratic means when they signed up to the peace process. That doesn't mean their goals have changed, and I don't consider their progress to be radical or quick enough to be honest. The goal of all Irish Republicans is to remove the British from Ireland, disband the pupttet government in Dublin, and create a new Republic based on socialism. Any movement away from those goals and what was the point.
Stanley pointed out that two miliatry campaigns against a foreign force on these lands were successful. That should be applauded by all Irish Republicans.Shameful of 26 county PSF to go apologising for what was a proper Irish republican viewpoint.

If they won two military campaigns how come the Brits are still here? Maybe they were fighting the wrong war.