The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

Solutionking

IAmTheReign wrote: »

I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, you haven't committed any crime as far as I am aware.

The government 'of the UK' sits in Westminster. The government of NI sits in Stormont, the same way the government of Wales sits in Cardiff and the government of Scotland sits in Holyrood. Just because the devolved governments don't have complete autonomy doesn't mean they aren't governments.

Depending on what the subject is you will get different answers. If it is good news then yes it is a government and yes SF are part of that. They should of course get plaudits for the good work
If it is bad, then no it is not a government, if it was a government it is the DUP fault anyway. Nothing to see here please move on.

Nobotty

Solutionking wrote: »

Depending on what the subject is you will get different answers. If it is good news then yes it is a government and yes SF are part of that. They should of course get plaudits for the good work
If it is bad, then no it is not a government, if it was a government it is the DUP fault anyway. Nothing to see here please move on.

Still ignoring the petition of concern tool the DUP use for blocking necessary anti covid measures and pettily blaming SF I see
You were PWNED this morning several times yet again on that
Every day a learning day for you
You're welcome

RandomViewer

Solutionking wrote: »

First off I don't support FG but the obsession around here with FG is alarming. It seems every post has some response about FG in it.

Second I don't support loyalists but it goes to show the level of intelligence around here when the best you can come up with is "oh look at what they done". As if that makes what PIRA done ok. Alarming attitude

I would suggest you all go and do a bit of reading about the GFA and not from the SF website.

FG consider the DUP to be their Northern counterpart by doing so they support loyalist terrorism, FG criticism of SF over the North is seen as nothing more than forelock tugging to the DUP.

blanch152

RandomViewer wrote: »

FG consider the DUP to be their Northern counterpart by doing so they support loyalist terrorism, FG criticism of SF over the North is seen as nothing more than forelock tugging to the DUP.

I have seen some fantastical lies on this site, but that one takes the crown.

Nobotty

blanch152 wrote: »

I have seen some fantastical lies on this site, but that one takes the crown.

It is indeed rubbish
The DUP hate Vradakar even more than they do SF
If such a thing is possible

Solutionking

Nobotty wrote: »

Still ignoring the petition of concern tool the DUP use for blocking necessary anti covid measures and pettily blaming SF I see
You were PWNED this morning several times yet again on that
Every day a learning day for you
You're welcome

:P
Thanks, was fairly boring day, cheered me up. You are as bad as the lad trying to say he had two bullet holes in him and couldn't even add

grayzer75

Nobotty wrote: »

It is indeed rubbish
The DUP hate Vradakar even more than they do SF
If such a thing is possible

Really, it must be a one way love so........

https://www.independent.ie/incoming/fine-gael-audience-applauds-as-dups-donaldson-says-ireland-should-join-the-commonwealth-37944279.html

FrancieBrady

Nobotty wrote: »

It is indeed rubbish
The DUP hate Vradakar even more than they do SF
If such a thing is possible

The poster wasn't talking about the DUP. The poster clearly said 'FG consider the DUP to be their Northern counterpart'.

Just saying. I wouldn't agree with a specific grá for the DUP btw, I think FG see Unionism in general to be closer to them than nationalism or republicanism.

blanch152

grayzer75 wrote: »

Really, it must be a one way love so........

https://www.independent.ie/incoming/fine-gael-audience-applauds-as-dups-donaldson-says-ireland-should-join-the-commonwealth-37944279.html

They had SDLP, Alliance and DUP at a conference for the purposes of engaging with other viewpoints.

That is exactly the type of thing needed on this island. The fact that you disparage it shows once again that the republican mindset is not truly republican and is not conducive to building a shared relationship with the unionist community.

It would be deeply disappointing were it not totally expected.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The poster wasn't talking about the DUP. The poster clearly said 'FG consider the DUP to be their Northern counterpart'.

Just saying. I wouldn't agree with a specific grá for the DUP btw, I think FG see Unionism in general to be closer to them than nationalism or republicanism.

More disingenuous rubbish.

Reaching out to the unionist community is what is needed to build a shared island.

Nobotty

Solutionking wrote: »

:P
Thanks, was fairly boring day, cheered me up. You are as bad as the lad trying to say he had two bullet holes in him and couldn't even add

I'm sure
Why am I as bad as that lad? At least I deal in reality
The reality is,The DUP have waived petition of concern vetoes for Brexit,marriage equality and now Covid and all of which are improper uses of that tool
All of which SF have been on the right side of
You have to accept that
If you don't want to,just because you don't, then that's where your other posts cannot be taken seriously

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

More disingenuous rubbish.

Reaching out to the unionist community is what is needed to build a shared island.

What about sharing it with the nationalist community? Reach out to the DUP but not the main political representatives of nationalism.

NOT - A - LEG - TO - STAND - ON again blanch. When it suits your warped narrative SF and the DUP are the same, when it suits another narrative, it is ok to reach out to an unchanged DUP.

Fecking hell the pivots would make you dizzy.

Solutionking

blanch152 wrote: »

More disingenuous rubbish.

Reaching out to the unionist community is what is needed to build a shared island.

FF done a discussion with Ian Paisley MP, imagine that actually having a discussion with a member of the DUP.

Yet to listen to the full discussion as too busy but the comments all seemed very positive. Seemingly the big bad protestant is not that scary at all. :P

Solutionking

Nobotty wrote: »

I'm sure
Why am I as bad as that lad? At least I deal in reality
The reality is,The DUP have waived petition of concern vetoes for Brexit,marriage equality and now Covid and all of which are improper uses of that tool
All of which SF have been on the right side of
You have to accept that
If you don't want to,just because you don't, then that's where your other posts cannot be taken seriously

How long ago is the GFA now? 22 years
Yet we still have the same childish carry on from SF, at what stage are they going to turn in a proper political party? everything is the fault of the big bad protestant.

People are dying in the North and all I see here is a list of excuses which come from the handbook of SF. Maybe it is time to stop with the bulls**t excuses and do something about it.

Every country in the World has political parties that don't see eye to eye, yet they get on and work for the people that voted them in. Not sit back crying saying they can do nothing.
The excuses you are making are even worse. They are elected, they are paid wages. They should be able to sit down and come to agreements with the DUP.

P.S this is a SF thread but I would expect if you search FG and DUP are probably mentioned more times than SF. Tells it own story doesn't it.

grayzer75

Solutionking wrote: »

FF done a discussion with Ian Paisley MP, imagine that actually having a discussion with a member of the DUP.

Yet to listen to the full discussion as too busy but the comments all seemed very positive. Seemingly the big bad protestant is not that scary at all. :P

This the same Ian Paisley who called the loyalists onto the streets during the Druncree stand-off and which led to the three Quinn brothers being burned to death. This the same guy who was at the forefront of the campaign against nationalists in the north in the late 60's and who gave money to the UVF to help a bombing campaign.

But as long as it's not republicans they're dead on.......

FrancieBrady

Solutionking wrote: »

How long ago is the GFA now? 22 years
Yet we still have the same childish carry on from SF, at what stage are they going to turn in a proper political party? everything is the fault of the big bad protestant.

Just stop with tryng to sectarianise things.

People are dying in the North and all I see here is a list of excuses which come from the handbook of SF. Maybe it is time to stop with the bulls**t excuses and do something about it.

People have died here too, has anyone put their hands up and said it is their fault?
What is it you want SF to do in a situation were they have some but not all of the responsibility?

Every country in the World has political parties that don't see eye to eye, yet they get on and work for the people that voted them in. Not sit back crying saying they can do nothing.
The excuses you are making are even worse. They are elected, they are paid wages. They should be able to sit down and come to agreements with the DUP.

Where have SF said they 'can do nothing'? They tried to do something and were twice vetoed by the abuse of the Cross Community veto by the DUP.

If you would stop lying and then ranting about those lies, it might be a help here.

Solutionking

grayzer75 wrote: »

This the same Ian Paisley who called the loyalists onto the streets during the Druncree stand-off and which led to the three Quinn brothers being burned to death. This the same guy who was at the forefront of the campaign against nationalists in the north in the late 60's and who gave money to the UVF to help a bombing campaign.

But as long as it's not republicans they're dead on.......

Seeing as he was born in 1966 I doubt he was at the forefront of the campaign in the late 60's as at most he would have just moved to the big boys toilet.

Solutionking

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Just stop with tryng to sectarianise things.



People have died here too, has anyone put their hands up and said it is their fault?
What is it you want SF to do in a situation were they have some but not all of the responsibility?



Where have SF said they 'can do nothing'? They tried to do something and were twice vetoed by the abuse of the Cross Community veto by the DUP.

If you would stop lying and then ranting about those lies, it might be a help here.

According to you everyone is lying. As I said, adults learn to negotiate. Child bicker. If blaming the DUP for everything then you have to accept that the DUP will say the exact same about SF.

Only children in a play ground can use that excuse, not adults.

grayzer75

Solutionking wrote: »

Seeing as he was born in 1966 I doubt he was at the forefront of the campaign in the late 60's as at most he would have just moved to the big boys toilet.

Oh apologies, you're on about Jnr the travel specialist........

Brendan Bendar

Any word from Brian?

Nobotty

Solutionking wrote: »

According to you everyone is lying. As I said, adults learn to negotiate. Child bicker. If blaming the DUP for everything then you have to accept that the DUP will say the exact same about SF.

Only children in a play ground can use that excuse, not adults.

I see,so how to you propose dealing with the sectarian DUP's use of the petition of concern to twart anything all islandy that might be of benefit to the north?
Any experience of them?

grayzer75

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Any word from Brian?

He not the messiah, he's a really naughty boy......

FrancieBrady

Solutionking wrote: »

According to you everyone is lying. As I said, adults learn to negotiate. Child bicker. If blaming the DUP for everything then you have to accept that the DUP will say the exact same about SF.

Only children in a play ground can use that excuse, not adults.

There you go again...lying about what was said...which wasn't 'blaming the DUP for everything'.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

SF collapsed the Assembly over an Irish language act and some farmers burning wood pellets. People are dying from Covid at twice the rate of the rest of the island and they are standing idly by.

It is their responsibility. Why isn't Mary-Lou in the Dail praising our government's response and asking for our help for the job her colleagues can't do in the North? Because saving lives in the North would cost her politically in the South.

More dishonesty.
No truth in this post.

You want MLMD to tell Foster et. al. what to do? Why not ask FG to ask their campaign people, who work for the Tories, to have a word and listen to MON?

James Brown

Solutionking wrote: »

Please point to this praise? anytime I see her or Pearse they are shouting down the TV, nobody knows why anymore its just seems to be a non stop moan

Most recently Leo Varadkar leaking a confidential document to a pal and FG/McEntee giving a high level judicial appointment to Varadkar's pick.

Solutionking

Bowie wrote: »

Most recently Leo Varadkar leaking a confidential document to a pal and FG/McEntee giving a high level judicial appointment to Varadkar's pick.

Bowie wrote: »

More dishonesty.
No truth in this post.

You want MLMD to tell Foster et. al. what to do? Why not ask FG to ask their campaign people, who work for the Tories, to have a word and listen to MON?

It is great to see you are back and posting about......Leo and FG
Quelle surprise

FrancieBrady

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Any word from Brian?

You are the man with his finger on the rumour pulse. You tell us?

James Brown

Solutionking wrote: »

It is great to see you are back and posting about......Leo and FG
Quelle surprise

I was answering a line from your post. Now you know what they are shouting about. I'd hate to think you were commenting and forming an opinion on SF and not knowing why.

Solutionking

Bowie wrote: »

I was answering a line from your post. Now you know what they are shouting about. I'd hate to think you were commenting and forming an opinion on SF and not knowing why.

Shouting? If I was shouting I would put it in CAPITALS

It is fairly easy to know the answer, it is ALWAYS Fg and Leo


Well according to you anyway

Brendan Bendar

The Breener is on his feet now with a slobbery apology.

More worried about losing the wedge I would suggest.

Between the four ‘millon’ gone up North and Callinan and now Stanley they might have to get the angle iron bhoy down from the North.


Unrest in the trenches it would appear....... but like on this platform, sometimes with a few cans on board a lad might ‘take a swing’.

An apology doesn’t sort it out here, and rightly so.