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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,984 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    christy c wrote: »
    Just a defence of the man who came out with plenty of economic clangers.

    It's not even that christy if you read the post. Go on, give it a go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    christy c wrote: »
    My party? I think the quality of Irish politics is pretty poor and vote for FG as best of a bad lot.

    You'd think spending 4 billion on a hospital would be a sacking offence, but then you take a look at the ramblings of idiots like Pearse Doherty and things look very different.

    HEP C , Noonan gloated at the victim's,


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    It's not even that christy if you read the post. Go on, give it a go.

    Once is enough to read your gibberish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,984 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    It still doesn't award him any competency.

    I would love to sit him down and ask him where he sits on house to house calls on anyone who crosses the bhoys. I can only imagine his belligerent nature is well capable of the cold stare across the room. His connections to Ográ Sinn Féin could well get him over the line in a leadership contest but you are in to the blind leading the blind after that. I have seen him handing out the orations at Liberty Hall as if he was gods gift to Irish socialism, Larkin or Connelly would cringe at the thought of him.

    Waving Tweets around the Dáil as if they matter. I blame the daydreaming on the old Donegal Road, he hasn't a rats what he is at.

    Just as well the Shinners got more than enough votes in Donegal so. Doesn't seem like he'll get yours.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    HEP C , Noonan gloated at the victim's,

    Does that excuse SF's economic stupidity?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    christy c wrote: »
    Once is enough to read your gibberish.

    You really should try reading it a second time, of only to confirm to yourself that you made a haimes of reading it the first time horse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    christy c wrote: »
    Does that excuse SF's economic stupidity?

    What actual policies have SF implemented ?, Eamon the cauliflower was going to ban cars ,planes and fireplaces before he got a ministry, now he's begging people to fly.
    There's multiple real cases of FG ineptitude and pure thieving


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Just as well the Shinners got more than enough votes in Donegal so. Doesn't seem like he'll get yours.

    Half expect missing posters to go up for Joe McHugh, hasn't been seen or heard of in months, probably isolating in his home in Offaly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Nobotty


    Jesus,the unionists are really upping the ante
    How are they going to vote for a UI ?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1206/1182658-foster-letter-taoiseach/


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    What actual policies have SF implemented ?, Eamon the cauliflower was going to ban cars ,planes and fireplaces before he got a ministry, now he's begging people to fly.
    There's multiple real cases of FG ineptitude and pure thieving

    How could they have implemented stuff in opposition? Im talking about the absolute nonsense they have proposed over the years.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,984 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Nobotty wrote: »
    Jesus,the unionists are really upping the ante
    How are they going to vote for a UI ?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1206/1182658-foster-letter-taoiseach/

    Wait until she's asking FG to curb their enthusiasm for Collins. :)
    What's that saying? It like feeding crocidiles....


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    McMurphy wrote: »
    You really should try reading it a second time, of only to confirm to yourself that you made a haimes of reading it the first time horse.

    I read that as Francie saying Pearse got in FG's bad books because of the fiscal space thing in 2016. And then went to to talk about poor Pearse not being able to get a look in (here is the defence IMO).


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    christy c wrote: »
    How could they have implemented stuff in opposition? Im talking about the absolute nonsense they have proposed over the years.

    Exhibit A: Charlie Flanagan,


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,984 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    christy c wrote: »
    I read that as Francie saying Pearse got in FG's bad books because of the fiscal space thing in 2016. And then went to to talk about poor Pearse not being able to get a look in (here is the defence IMO).

    Rubbish. I never mentioned anything about his policy. Correcting Michael Noonan is not 'policy' and Pearse not getting a look in on boards.ie with the FG lads and lassies that took offence has nothing to do with policy either.

    Walk away christy you did indeed make a hames of that one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Solutionking


    Kraftwerk wrote: »
    SF PR machine: We take the average industrial wage. We're one of you guys! FF and FG aren't improving anything, a change is needed, SF are the party of the future.

    Reality: Bunch of RA heads singing up the RA on getting elected. Convicted terrorist sitting in the Dail pocketing 90k a year. TDs tweeting homophobic and transphobic crap. TDs glorifying terrorism. Anti vaxer TDs criticising the HSE over vaccines. TDs ignoring and encouraging the ignoring of restrictions during a pandemic to go to the funeral of one of their own. Etc etc

    I do feel bad for poor floating voters like Francie though. So embarrassed at being duped into believing SF were a credible alternative to government and not a bunch of backwards RA heads that they must spend every waking hour defending these backwards bull**** artists for fear of having to accept they voted for utter gob****es.


    Sinn Fein: PR machine: https://twitter.com/Wardy1916/status/1309059600243716098
    Reality: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/eight-politicians-swear-statements-to-receive-full-expenses-for-lockdown-period-1.4391105
    You actually couldn't make this stuff up. He actually still has his little speech pinned at the top of his twitter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    christy c wrote: »
    I read that as Francie saying Pearse got in FG's bad books because of the fiscal space thing in 2016. And then went to to talk about poor Pearse not being able to get a look in (here is the defence IMO).

    It would appear you read it wrong so. He said fgers never forgave Pearse Doherty because he embarrassed Noonan.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Just as well the Shinners got more than enough votes in Donegal so. Doesn't seem like he'll get yours.

    As I said the blind leading the blind.

    Sure half of them are probably scared witless of crossing them, for fear of getting a knock on the door.

    Donegal is a smashing county, thank phuck I don't associate it with Sinn Féin. It has a lot more going for it than the squeals of a few opportunistic political cranks who are fond of telling guerilla war stories and yarns about the boat to Glasgow.

    Luckily for Killybegs it is Simon Coveney thumping tables with the Brits over fishing rights, the thought of someone like Matt Carthy getting cute with Dominc Rabb and co. I like Matt Carthy, i would say he is great man to beep the horn and give you a wave up the Town of a Saturday. But he wouldn't know one end of a fishing quota to the back of his arse, he probably thinks Rockall is a can of lager. Rabb would have him spat back out before he realised the negotiations were on. Killybegs can count their blessings despite who they are voting for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    Rubbish. I never mentioned anything about his policy. Correcting Michael Noonan is not 'policy' and Pearse not getting a look in on boards.ie with the FG lads and lassies that took offence has nothing to do with policy either.

    Walk away christy you did indeed make a hames of that one.

    I stand corrected, apologies Francie.

    Can you see any legitimate reason why Pearse might not get a look in with some voters?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,984 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    As I said the blind leading the blind.

    Sure half of them are probably scared witless of crossing them, for fear of getting a knock on the door.

    Donegal is a smashing county, thank phuck I don't associate it with Sinn Féin. It has a lot more going for it than the squeals of a few opportunistic political cranks who are fond of telling guerilla war stories and yarns about the boat to Glasgow.

    Luckily for Killybegs it is Simon Coveney thumping tables with the Brits over fishing rights, the thought of someone like Matt Carthy getting cute with Dominc Rabb and co. I like Matt Carthy, i would say he is great man to beep the horn and give you a wave up the Town of a Saturday. But he wouldn't know one end of a fishing quota to the back of his arse, he probably thinks Rockall is a can of lager. Rabb would have him spat back out before he realised the negotiations were on. Killybegs can count their blessings despite who they are voting for.

    Comedy stuff now. You should write for Oliver Callan.

    Only SF convinced FG what policy was right for Brexit and let the government work for their wedge for a while.. Enda ruled out special status at the start.
    Maybe that's the reason SF do so well in Dun Na Gall? The people always know who the real workers are. Same as in the north, it isn't the darling children of FG and FG; the SDLP, that got rewarded for achieving parity of esteem and equality for them.
    You can't cod the people on the ground.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,984 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    christy c wrote: »
    I stand corrected, apologies Francie.

    Can you see any legitimate reason why Pearse might not get a look in with some voters?

    There isn't a politician in the country that gets a look in with all voters christy.

    Apology accepted btw. Fair play


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    There isn't a politician in the country that gets a look in with all voters christy.

    Apology accepted btw. Fair play

    I know not all politicians are not accepted, but I'm asking you for legitimate reasons Pearse is not accepted? Can you see any?

    For example, i have voted for FG since 2011, but accept criticism as regards to housing, Leo being a spoofer etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Comedy stuff now. You should write for Oliver Callan.

    Only SF convinced FG what policy was right for Brexit and let the government work for their wedge for a while.. Enda ruled out special status at the start.
    Maybe that's the reason SF do so well in Dun Na Gall? The people always know who the real workers are. Same as in the north, it isn't the darling children of FG and FG; the SDLP, that got rewarded for achieving parity of esteem and equality for them.
    You can't cod the people on the ground.

    Yeah, and don't forget Jimmy's winning matches.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,984 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    christy c wrote: »
    I know not all politicians are not accepted, but I'm asking you for legitimate reasons Pearse is not accepted? Can you see any?

    For example, i have voted for FG since 2011, but accept criticism as regards to housing, Leo being a spoofer etc.

    More people voted for his policies than for anyone else's in the election. That is the only indicator we have of how many want his policies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,984 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Yeah, and don't forget Jimmy's winning matches.

    Not anymore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    More people voted for his policies than for anyone else's in the election. That is the only indicator we have of how many want his policies.

    I know that, and I disagree with his policies. Same as you disagreed with the electorate choosing FF or FG for a long time.

    I'm asking if you acknowledge any of the criticism of his policies? If so, which ones?

    Edit, do you acknowledge any of the criticism as being valid?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,984 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    christy c wrote: »
    I know that, and I disagree with his policies. Same as you disagreed with the electorate choosing FF or FG for a long time.

    I'm asking if you acknowledge any of the criticism of his policies? If so, which ones?

    Edit, do you acknowledge any of the criticism as being valid?

    I pay no attention to manifestos christy...said this numerous times. My goal in votes SF is to break the power swap and stop the economic direction we have been taking.
    I judge on what has actually been done, not what might be done and sales brochure promises. I can tell you if they preside over the various record breaking crises we've had with the power swap, they won't be getting my vote.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,959 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I pay no attention to manifestos christy...said this numerous times. My goal in votes SF is to break the power swap and stop the economic direction we have been taking.
    I judge on what has actually been done, not what might be done and sales brochure promises. I can tell you if they preside over the various record breaking crises we've had with the power swap, they won't be getting my vote.

    Stop the economic direction we have been taking????

    We are one of the richest countries in the world. We have the highest social welfare benefits in the EU with the lowest personal taxes thanks to the ability of successive governments to attract foreign investment. And you want to change this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    I pay no attention to manifestos christy...said this numerous times. My goal in votes SF is to break the power swap and stop the economic direction we have been taking.
    I judge on what has actually been done, not what might be done and sales brochure promises. I can tell you if they preside over the various record breaking crises we've had with the power swap, they won't be getting my vote.

    So in that case, do you not see any legitimate reason to criticise Pearse? Thought it was a fairly straightforward question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 541 ✭✭✭rdwight


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    It's the gift that keeps giving.

    Latest Shinner - this time a chap whose social media weirdness ended an FF dynasty - to get "called out" by the Woke in and out of New SF is Chris Andrews:

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/andrews-in-apology-for-anti-trans-tweets-likes-39830416.html?fbclid=IwAR28E9LMMtKDACKtRG18GdjW_t268rBc5I_YIGTiXx9N1OyePiDTbMNH8oc

    His offence? Well, liking a tweet that pointed to the absurdity of large muscular men deciding they are wimmin in order to beat women at weight lifting.

    Everyone knows this is true, but Andrews no doubt under pressure from the Woke Brigade (the non binary persons who bate the Black and Tans) has grovelled.

    Who's next for the rainbow chopper?

    Any republican with any self-respect left in it should burn that Ante Post docket.
    Ah here now, Stanley will eventually be let go with a fool's pardon. But only after a pretend period of reflection and a lame formulaic "I'm sorry if I offended anyone" apology. (As opposed to "I'm sorry I wrote offensive tweets").

    Andrews, on the other hand, will be granted an immediate and unconditional idiot's pardon because, well, let's just say he has a track record of behaving like one.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,984 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Stop the economic direction we have been taking????

    We are one of the richest countries in the world. We have the highest social welfare benefits in the EU with the lowest personal taxes thanks to the ability of successive governments to attract foreign investment. And you want to change this?

    That kind of defence actually makes me want to get sick. Not engaging with it. If you can't see the issues then no point talking to you.


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