The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

FrancieBrady

Solutionking wrote: »

Wow, something that was discussed and dumped 2 years ago yet I search now and find SF with article on website calling for supporters.

Which was in 2015. FIVE years ago. You can't help yourself walking into these clangers.https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-online-supporters/news/

I don't remember anything on Leo proposal about abusing people online so the Gardai would be called? Maybe you can point me to that part?

What about this guy...now back in the party.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/taoiseach-and-fine-gael-failed-to-tackle-online-abuse-by-senior-member-despite-knowing-about-vile-posts-36328187.html

Across the political divide you have instances of this.

a very cool kid

Worst political interview from a major party leader ever - Cowen did better drunk from the night before:

Tried to invoke Tom Barry and was quickly informed Tom Barry thought the Provos were cowardly scum bombing towns

Actually defended anti-vaxxers as "asking questions"

Actually tried to turn Brian Stanley into a victim, would she give anyone in government a week off because they're "low key people". If they're serious about having the big jobs they doesn't wash.

Said the murder of those specific soldiers was fine - even though they were literally blown to bits (notwithstanding the 1920 lads would have faced up to them) - so proof is ever we needed it that two wrongs do make a right in SF land.

Literally tried to deflect at every turn. Wanted to bash Boris for looking out for the UK. (I hate Brexit but the UK are going to do their damnedest to get what they want, we have to stay calm and resolute, they'll buckle eventually).

Lastly started blaming RTE for this being a story, Trumpian or what? Especially coming after Brian Stanley's wife's tweet about cutting their funding).

Absolutely disastrous. If Leo or Michael were leader of Sinn Féin you would never see them so unprepared in a live interview. The echo chamber of SF and the decent result they got has made the senior team there lazy and it shows.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Which was in 2015. FIVE years ago. You can't help yourself walking into these clangers.https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-online-supporters/news/



What about this guy...now back in the party.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/taoiseach-and-fine-gael-failed-to-tackle-online-abuse-by-senior-member-despite-knowing-about-vile-posts-36328187.html

Across the political divide you have instances of this.

https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/26753

2015 might have been when you joined Francie, but they are still advertising for support. Might dig up a defunct email address and sign on to get more material.

Solutionking

a very cool kid wrote: »

Worst political interview from a major party leader ever - Cowen did better drunk from the night before:

Tried to invoke Tom Barry and was quickly informed Tom Barry thought the Provos were cowardly scum bombing towns

Actually defended anti-vaxxers as "asking questions"

Actually tried to turn Brian Stanley into a victim, would she give anyone in government a week off because they're "low key people". If they're serious about having the big jobs they doesn't wash.

Said the murder of those specific soldiers was fine - even though they were literally blown to bits (notwithstanding the 1920 lads would have faced up to them) - so proof is ever we needed it that two wrongs do make a right in SF land.

Literally tried to deflect at every turn. Wanted to bash Boris for looking out for the UK. (I hate Brexit but the UK are going to do their damnedest to get what they want, we have to stay calm and resolute, they'll buckle eventually).

Lastly started blaming RTE for this being a story, Trumpian or what? Especially coming after Brian Stanley's wife's tweet about cutting their funding).

Absolutely disastrous. If Leo or Michael were leader of Sinn Féin you would never see them so unprepared in a live interview. The echo chamber of SF and the decent result they got has made the senior team there lazy and it shows.

It was comically bad. Trying to say a judge getting a job was worse than killing a load of people. That is how deranged these people are.

Solutionking

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Which was in 2015. FIVE years ago. You can't help yourself walking into these clangers.https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-online-supporters/news/



What about this guy...now back in the party.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/taoiseach-and-fine-gael-failed-to-tackle-online-abuse-by-senior-member-despite-knowing-about-vile-posts-36328187.html

Across the political divide you have instances of this.

SF online supporters is still on website Francie. Still all over loads of social media trying to get other "individuals" to sign up.

FrancieBrady

a very cool kid wrote: »

Worst political interview from a major party leader ever - Cowen did better drunk from the night before:

Tried to invoke Tom Barry and was quickly informed Tom Barry thought the Provos were cowardly scum bombing towns

Actually defended anti-vaxxers as "asking questions"

Actually tried to turn Brian Stanley into a victim, would she give anyone in government a week off because they're "low key people". If they're serious about having the big jobs they doesn't wash.

Said the murder of those specific soldiers was fine - even though they were literally blown to bits (notwithstanding the 1920 lads would have faced up to them) - so proof is ever we needed it that two wrongs do make a right in SF land.

Literally tried to deflect at every turn. Wanted to bash Boris for looking out for the UK. (I hate Brexit but the UK are going to do their damnedest to get what they want, we have to stay calm and resolute, they'll buckle eventually).

Lastly started blaming RTE for this being a story, Trumpian or what? Especially coming after Brian Stanley's wife's tweet about cutting their funding).

Absolutely disastrous. If Leo or Michael were leader of Sinn Féin you would never see them so unprepared in a live interview. The echo chamber of SF and the decent result they got has made the senior team there lazy and it shows.

Just something that should be pointed out here. I disagree with your take on the interview...I wouldn't expect those who dislike SF to see as anything other than difficult to accept what she said but besides that, Stanley appeared before PAC very quickly to answer for what he did, at the very next meeting in fact. The rewuest to address the Dáil came later.
Contrast that to trying to get Leoi to come in and answer and Helen McEntee. Not a leg to stand on here on that.

FrancieBrady

Solutionking wrote: »

SF online supporters is still on website Francie. Still all over loads of social media trying to get other "individuals" to sign up.

Yes, and nothing wrong with it. It's open and transparent and 5 years old. I.E. SF supporters online promoting the party just like an ad in the paper or a leaflet through the door...PR.

Not like shady FG and their anonymous accounts though.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/26753

2015 might have been when you joined Francie, but they are still advertising for support. Might dig up a defunct email address and sign on to get more material.

Is it illegal blanch..even wrong to get people to openly promote the party? Canvassing, in other words, only online. Maybe that is why their support is growing with the young.

'Anonymous accounts though...that is quite another sphere altogether. Murky

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Just something that should be pointed out here. I disagree with your take on the interview...I wouldn't expect those who dislike SF to see as anything other than difficult to accept what she said but besides that, Stanley appeared before PAC very quickly to answer for what he did, at the very next meeting in fact. The rewuest to address the Dáil came later.
Contrast that to trying to get Leoi to come in and answer and Helen McEntee. Not a leg to stand on here on that.

Mary-Lou said she gave him a week off because she had a duty of care to him (no duty of care to the young woman, though).

She wouldn't give Leo a minute to respond. She was all over the airwaves demanding he go into the Dail the very next day. She is the biggest hypocrite of the lot.

jm08

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

All MaryLou had to do was remove Stanno from the chair of the PAC.

That was totally obvious.

That would have killed all this anger .

#notanormalparty.

Look at what happened............ lot of anger out there.

Its fairly obvious that FG don't want an opposition TD asking awkward questions in the PAC. I wonder what the big worry is - Children's Hospital, Brexit dealings, Broadband, Fees of Government 'Special Advisors'? With the Government hiring the former British Sun Editor as its Press officer, are they going to go all Sean Spicer?

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Mary-Lou said she gave him a week off because she had a duty of care to him (no duty of care to the young woman, though).

She wouldn't give Leo a minute to respond. She was all over the airwaves demanding he go into the Dail the very next day. She is the biggest hypocrite of the lot.

How did they fail their duty of care to Christine O'Mahony...saw her tweeting her heartful thanks to SF local reps for reaching out.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes, and nothing wrong with it. It's open and transparent and 5 years old. I.E. SF supporters online promoting the party just like an ad in the paper or a leaflet through the door...PR.

Not like shady FG and their anonymous accounts though.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Is it illegal blanch..even wrong to get people to openly promote the party? Canvassing, in other words, only online. Maybe that is why their support is growing with the young.

'Anonymous accounts though...that is quite another sphere altogether. Murky

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Which was in 2015. FIVE years ago. You can't help yourself walking into these clangers.https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-online-supporters/news/


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Nobody said it was illegal, you said it was FIVE years ago. You were wrong, not for the first time. You then deflected into something else that nobody claimed, not for the first time either.

You are having as good a day as Mary-Lou.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Nobody said it was illegal, you said it was FIVE years ago. You were wrong, not for the first time. You then deflected into something else that nobody claimed, not for the first time either.

You are having as good a day as Mary-Lou.

Because the poster was criticising me for bringing something from '2 years ago' (shock horror) into the discussion.

Solutionking

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Is it illegal blanch..even wrong to get people to openly promote the party? Canvassing, in other words, only online. Maybe that is why their support is growing with the young.

'Anonymous accounts though...that is quite another sphere altogether. Murky

I never said it was illegal to have online supporters.
But those supporters should have standards which should be promoted by the party. Do you not think so?

Dempo1

Nothing more pleasurable than seeing Leo make a fool of himself, ranting about the heavy brigade visiting a SF members home, didn't take long to discover it was a neighbour and close family friend who called.

This back and fourth is becoming tiresome, Stanley going nowhere, FG fall flat on their faces again, nothing to see here, can we move on and everyone start actually doing their Jobs.

RandomViewer

Solutionking wrote: »

It was comically bad. Trying to say a judge getting a job was worse than killing a load of people. That is how deranged these people are.

Hep C or cervical cancer scandal? FG really have an issue with women

Solutionking

RandomViewer wrote: »

Hep C or cervical cancer scandal? FG really have an issue with women

First it was trying to use the suicide of a poor women
Now just trying to use the women of Ireland dying. How does anyone even come up with something like that to post?

RandomViewer

FG were happy enough for their Labour bedfellows to play the heavy back in the day
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/de-rossa-told-childers-she-might-have-to-leave-labour-1.12498

Brendan Bendar

jm08 wrote: »

Its fairly obvious that FG don't want an opposition TD asking awkward questions in the PAC. I wonder what the big worry is - Children's Hospital, Brexit dealings, Broadband, Fees of Government 'Special Advisors'? With the Government hiring the former British Sun Editor as its Press officer, are they going to go all Sean Spicer?

Heh heh.... fairly obvious SF didn’t want too much ‘digging’ into Stanno’s Twitter account :eek:

Disappeared it like a ‘Vulcan’ rat trap.

How can a dude like that chair an important Govt. committee.

Just doesn’t add up.

RandomViewer

Solutionking wrote: »

First it was trying to use the suicide of a poor women
Now just trying to use the women of Ireland dying. How does anyone even come up with something like that to post?

What suicide?

FrancieBrady

Solutionking wrote: »

I never said it was illegal to have online supporters.
But those supporters should have standards which should be promoted by the party. Do you not think so?

Absolutely. There is I believe a code of conduct.

How do FG propose doing that with anonymous accounts?

It's clear FG have no ethics in online activity at all.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Absolutely. There is I believe a code of conduct.

How do FG propose doing that with anonymous accounts?

It's clear FG have no ethics in online activity at all.

A code of misconduct you mean??

IAMAMORON

RandomViewer wrote: »

FG were happy enough for their Labour bedfellows to play the heavy back in the day
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/de-rossa-told-childers-she-might-have-to-leave-labour-1.12498

Crikey, I nearly bent my neck trying to spot that deflection.

Considering Proinsias was a sticky I couldn't let you away with that one.

The standard of deflecting matters has gone somewhat in tandem with the standard of your politicians.... downhill.

RandomViewer

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Crikey, I nearly bent my neck trying to spot that deflection.

Considering Proinsias was a sticky I couldn't let you away with that one.

The standard of deflecting matters has gone somewhat in tandem with the standard of your politicians.... downhill.

My politicians? I hate FG everyone else gets a pass of some sort, used to vote for Pringle but his wokeness overload was too much, Mc Daid and the Cope would've gotten the odd vote in the day, last election I voted for Doherty but wouldn't give McLoughlin a vote in a fit, still remember McHugh preaching about armed struggle and Brits out on my street in the 90's , how could you vote for some one so two faced ,

Solutionking

RandomViewer wrote: »

My politicians? I hate FG everyone else gets a pass of some sort, used to vote for Pringle but his wokeness overload was too much, Mc Daid and the Cope would've gotten the odd vote in the day, last election I voted for Doherty but wouldn't give McLoughlin a vote in a fit, still remember McHugh preaching about armed struggle and Brits out on my street in the 90's , how could you vote for some one so two faced ,

Want to hear two faced? suggest you have a wee listen to the Claire Byrne show this morning.

Odyssey 2005

SF carcrash interviewing continuing on RTE 1 now

Ireland2020

Solutionking wrote: »

Want to hear two faced? suggest you have a wee listen to the Claire Byrne show this morning.

Claire Byrne is very two faced. We agree on that

For Forks Sake

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

SF carcrash interviewing continuing on RTE 1 now

Who did they send out this time?

IAMAMORON

RandomViewer wrote: »

My politicians? I hate FG everyone else gets a pass of some sort, used to vote for Pringle but his wokeness overload was too much, Mc Daid and the Cope would've gotten the odd vote in the day, last election I voted for Doherty but wouldn't give McLoughlin a vote in a fit, still remember McHugh preaching about armed struggle and Brits out on my street in the 90's , how could you vote for some one so two faced ,

No sir, you just posted a link to an Irish Times article that stated that an IRA member ( albeit a sticky ) was involved in coercing a member of the Labour party to leave the party over something or other. To cap it off ( no pun intended )you tried to insinuate that Fine Gael were somehow involved?

Pure shight talk.

At least if you are going to discuss things with people bring something credible to the discussion, not made up garbage?

IAMAMORON

Ireland2020 wrote: »

Claire Byrne is very two faced. We agree on that

Journalism is a tough game, keep trying.

It's her job to have more faces than a rubix cube, get your head around that one.