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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Haven't we heard this before?


    P.S. Isn't this the Sinn Fein thread? :)

    Have they or have they not ignored them for 15 days? Yes or No will do

    No poster who calls people from the North who live down in the 26 refugees wiill tell me where I can post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Have they or have they not ignored them for 15 days? Yes or No will do

    No poster who calls people from the North who live down in the 26 refugees wiill tell me where I can post.

    No they haven't, the upped the levels to three and 4 in some counties.
    The public seem to have ignored both though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The will is clear - the money was left to the "political party in the Republic of Ireland known at this time as Sinn Fein". That was not the political party in Northern Ireland. That is the first dodgy thing about it.

    SIPO should take this further.

    The reason Sinn Fein could not accept this in the South is because there are rules preventing outsiders from influencing political parties. Sinn Fein, at the very least, are manipulating the rules, at the worst, could be money-laundering. The problem for Sinn Fein is that they should have refused the bequest.


    The Will is very clear as to what should happen to the money and how it should be spent.


    If the money couldn't be accepted by law in the Republic (which it could not), what do you think should happen to the money?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    No they haven't, the upped the levels to three and 4 in some counties.
    The public seem to have ignored both though.

    NHEPT advised the whole country should go Level 5.The Govt ignored that advice and never went to Level 5.

    Why after 6 months do they now think they know better than NHEPT?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    https://twitter.com/breegequinn/status/1318136464857849859?s=21

    Senior members of SF know who murdered a citizen of this country. Let that sink in.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    https://twitter.com/breegequinn/status/1318136464857849859?s=21

    Senior members of SF know who murdered a citizen of this country. Let that sink in.


    And Drew Harris (our Police Commissioner) and our Government knows who bombed Dublin and Monaghan killing 34 innocent people.



    Let that sink in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭grayzer75


    https://twitter.com/breegequinn/status/1318136464857849859?s=21

    Senior members of SF know who murdered a citizen of this country. Let that sink in.

    The PSNI and Gardai know also but without hard evidence nothing can be done unfortunately.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    NHEPT advised the whole country should go Level 5.The Govt ignored that advice and never went to Level 5.

    Why after 6 months do they now think they know better than NHEPT?

    Ignored?
    That they didn't go with it doesn't mean it was ignored.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Ignored?
    That they didn't go with it doesn't mean it was ignored.

    They ignored them, sure didn't Leo attack them and say they hadn't even thought about what they were saying. The 3 stooges then met up and decided they knew best. Over 2 weeks later we can all see how big a mistake that was apart from a few on here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,948 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Go way like ya, :D.
    It's duplicit, two faced and hypocritical from so many angles of SF policy ré partition and corporate taxes and even tax exiles.

    How is it?

    You are desperate for an angle here...any angle at all.

    It was 'dodgy' when it wasn't.

    Now an apparently transparent act is two faced.

    SF like all who signed up to the GF accept that partition is a reality. I don't see the big deal in that.

    The logical conclusion would have nationalists and republicans in favour of a UI could stand accused of 'accepting partition' because they obeyed the litter laws. :):)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    15 days ignoring Public Health Advice (at the same time cutting support for people out of work)
    Not normal Political Party's

    Eh, no wrong again. A normal political party (in government) makes decisions and can decide that economic factors outweigh health considerations and/or that "supports" are unnecessary or unaffordable or too damaging to the economy. You can think that they are wrong. And indeed they might well be making poor decisions and you could be right

    A party populated by thugs and murderers, celebrating and glorifying murderers who have an armed wing and who recently held a paramilitary pretend funeral for a street thug; Not A Normal Party.

    Gettit now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,951 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    jm08 wrote: »
    The Will is very clear as to what should happen to the money and how it should be spent.


    If the money couldn't be accepted by law in the Republic (which it could not), what do you think should happen to the money?

    "A will may not include a requirement that an heir commit an illegal, immoral, or other act against public policy as a condition of receipt."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_and_testament

    Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any living relative with standing who could challenge the will, but there are certainly questions to be asked.

    https://www.bequeathed.org/wills/what-to-include-in-a-will/conditions-in-a-will

    "Conditions may be void if they are ‘against public policy’. Broadly speaking, this means that the condition would not be in the public interest to enforce."

    Funding a political party from outside the jurisdiction and limits on donations to political parties are both tenets of public policy that have been legislated for. The executors are trying to circumvent these public policy provisions by directing the money to Northern Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭grayzer75


    blanch152 wrote: »
    "A will may not include a requirement that an heir commit an illegal, immoral, or other act against public policy as a condition of receipt."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_and_testament

    Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any living relative with standing who could challenge the will, but there are certainly questions to be asked.

    https://www.bequeathed.org/wills/what-to-include-in-a-will/conditions-in-a-will

    "Conditions may be void if they are ‘against public policy’. Broadly speaking, this means that the condition would not be in the public interest to enforce."

    Funding a political party from outside the jurisdiction and limits on donations to political parties are both tenets of public policy that have been legislated for. The executors are trying to circumvent these public policy provisions by directing the money to Northern Ireland.

    Sure aren't FG financed by a tax dodger based outside the jurisdiction in Malta....


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,948 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Truthvader wrote: »


    Eh, no wrong again. A normal political party (in government) makes decisions and can decide that economic factors outweigh health considerations and/or that "supports" are unnecessary or unaffordable or too damaging to the economy. You can think that they are wrong. And indeed they might well be making poor decisions and you could be right

    A party populated by thugs and murderers, celebrating and glorifying murderers who have an armed wing and who recently held a paramilitary pretend funeral for a street thug; Not A Normal Party.

    Gettit now?

    Every time there is a celebration of the foundation of this state you are describing FF and FG.

    Gettit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Nobotty


    jm08 wrote: »
    The Will is very clear as to what should happen to the money and how it should be spent.


    If the money couldn't be accepted by law in the Republic (which it could not), what do you think should happen to the money?

    By law the money CANNOT be spent in the 26 counties for party purposes
    However as SF is an all Ireland party,many things can be done with the money in the North that will benefit the party in the 26 counties and that is perfectly legal
    I won't go into details here


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,951 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    grayzer75 wrote: »
    Sure aren't FG financed by a tax dodger based outside the jurisdiction in Malta....

    Link?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,951 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Nobotty wrote: »
    By law the money CANNOT be spent in the 26 counties for party purposes
    However as SF is an all Ireland party,many things can be done with the money in the North that will benefit the party in the 26 counties and that is perfectly legal
    I won't go into details here

    The payment of canvassers in the North who volunteer to go South for general election campaigns is one way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The payment of canvassers in the North who volunteer to go South for general election campaigns is one way.

    That hurts dosnt it


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,951 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    That hurts dosnt it

    huh? don't understand what point you are making?

    Are you confirming it happens?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,948 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    huh? don't understand what point you are making?

    Are you confirming it happens?

    :) Now you want somebody to back up a claim you made. This gets funnier and funnier.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    blanch152 wrote: »
    huh? don't understand what point you are making?

    Are you confirming it happens?

    So what your saying is you have no proof at all it happens.

    Sinn Féin on the brain, very unhealthy


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Every time there is a celebration of the foundation of this state you are describing FF and FG.

    Gettit?

    What are you talking about? Could argue all day long about the right of the 1916 leaders to start a war and/or the conduct of the war of independence and the civil war thereafter.

    Whatever; it was 100 years ago and the worst sociopathic criminal involved cannot run for election now because he is dead

    Sadly the core of Sinn Fein is made up of unrepentant criminals and/or their apologists, hangers on and enthusiastic fanbase. These people are asking for votes and seeking to take power now

    See the difference now?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Truthvader wrote: »
    What are you talking about? Could argue all day long about the right of the 1916 leaders to start a war and/or the conduct of the war of independence and the civil war thereafter.

    Whatever; it was 100 years ago and the worst sociopathic criminal involved cannot run for election now because he is dead

    Sadly the core of Sinn Fein is made up of unrepentant criminals and/or their apologists, hangers on and enthusiastic fanbase. These people are asking for votes and seeking to take power now

    See the difference now?

    Asking for votes and getting plenty last time I checked aswell. Times have changed, the days of FG/FF power sharing and jumping in and out of Govt to each other are over


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,948 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Truthvader wrote: »
    What are you talking about? Could argue all day long about the right of the 1916 leaders to start a war and/or the conduct of the war of independence and the civil war thereafter.

    Whatever; it was 100 years ago and the worst sociopathic criminal involved cannot run for election now because he is dead

    Sadly the core of Sinn Fein is made up of unrepentant criminals and/or their apologists, hangers on and enthusiastic fanbase. These people are asking for votes and seeking to take power now

    See the difference now?

    They are still celebrating murderers and killers to this day Truth. hey fought their conflict/war and returned to ordinary civilian life as people do all over the world.

    You will just have to eat grass (as they say hereabouts, a famine reference I believe) on that I'm afraid, SF are here and they are here to stay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Asking for votes and getting plenty last time I checked aswell. Times have changed, the days of FG/FF power sharing and jumping in and out of Govt to each other are over

    May well be and you may get your wish and yourselves and your heroes in Sinn Fein may well take power. It wont make them normal or decent or wise. They will still be the same stunted criminalised morons they are now and the people who will suffer most (as always) will be the eejits at the bottom who actually voted them in.

    See Trump/ Boris/ Erdogan - all ploughing the same numb nut populist/nationalist field to the same thick audience as Sinn Fein


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,948 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Truthvader wrote: »
    May well be and you may get your wish and yourselves and your heroes in Sinn Fein may well take power. It wont make them normal or decent or wise. They will still be the same stunted criminalised morons they are now and the people who will suffer most (as always) will be the eejits at the bottom who actually voted them in.

    See Trump/ Boris/ Erdogan - all ploughing the same numb nut populist/nationalist field to the same thick audience as Sinn Fein

    'people at the bottom'...you again cannot help revealing the type of person you are.

    An appalling outlook on life and fellow citizens


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,667 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Truthvader wrote: »

    See Trump/ Boris/ Erdogan - all ploughing the same numb nut populist/nationalist field to the same thick audience as Sinn Fein

    you keep on telling yourself that if it makes you feel superior .... i mean, better


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    They are still celebrating murderers and killers to this day Truth. hey fought their conflict/war and returned to ordinary civilian life as people do all over the world.

    You will just have to eat grass (as they say hereabouts, a famine reference I believe) on that I'm afraid, SF are here and they are here to stay.

    No-one bar Sinn Fein would glorify and celebrate the life of the likes of Bobby Storey in this age or any age gone by or run as a candidate anything like Dessie Ellis


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    'people at the bottom'...you again cannot help revealing the type of person you are.

    An appalling outlook on life and fellow citizens

    Its called economics. Those at the bottom are in low paid jobs or on social welfare and make up the Sinn Fein vote. Exchange ay PC term you like. Always marvel at the po faced sensitivity and hysterical outrage you habitually mine from every post while happily defending and promoting Sinn Fein who have a very particular "outlook" on the life of fellow citizens if it suits them


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