The PGA Tour Thread

The Big Easy

Mushy wrote: »

The standards are high eh?

Journeyman is a horrible enough term and I probably shouldn't use it, but it is used in sporting parlance.

In golf I'd use it for a guy who's never going to win a major or crack the top 20 in the world, but is good enough to hang around on tour maybe even win a tournament or two.

Na has five, so I know what you're saying, I'm probably a little biased against him as I've always viewed him as a little weak under pressure. But fair play to him he's come back from nearly not being able to take the club away to be better than ever and win some tournaments. maybe he can prove me completely wrong and sneak a PGA or something before he's done

The Big Easy

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Yeah and as mentioned above, the comms were completely clueless to what was going on too, like my initial reaction was to check shot tracker to see who played that shot but nothing from them, even when Long was on the green they had no clue Macintyre was there in 1, it's abysmal tbh.

Exactly, I was like who's ball is that, did Na's caddy drop it to put DJ off?! :pac:

But they were oblivious chatting away to each other, while a Brit no less hits the shot of a lifetime to go through!

Mushy

fullstop wrote: »

Some achievement for him.

Wouldnt be shocked to see him at the Ryder Cup anyway, Harrington does think highly of him

The Big Easy

Mushy wrote: »

Wouldnt be shocked to see him at the Ryder Cup anyway, Harrington does think highly of him

He'll have to qualify though, he won't be picking any rookies not called Shane

Mac_Lad71

Rahm is such a big baby. Come on Palmer.

The Big Easy

Mac_Lad71 wrote: »

Rahm is such a big baby. Come on Palmer.

He is, isn't he!

Himself, Hatton, Garcia, Byrson there's more than a couple of ass hats out there at the moment.

ClutchIt

Why is there no criticism of the format by the commentators?

The Big Easy

ClutchIt wrote: »

Why is there no criticism of the format by the commentators?

Those on the gravy train rarely complain about the service!

Mantis Toboggan

The Big Easy wrote: »

He is, isn't he!

Himself, Hatton, Garcia, Byrson there's more than a couple of ass hats out there at the moment.

Ah they show a bit of emotion, act the idiot a bit, childish in ways but I'd watch that ahead of the boring old farts

Mac_Lad71

ClutchIt wrote: »

Why is there no criticism of the format by the commentators?

McGinley did earlier..he said he preferred straight knockout format but the players
didn't.

Mantis Toboggan

Mac_Lad71 wrote: »

McGinley did earlier..he said he preferred straight knockout format but the players
didn't.

Can't blame then, imagine flying over from Asia, playing 13 holes, losing 6n5 and back on the plane. Viewing wise straight knock out definitely better though.

The Big Easy

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Ah they show a bit of emotion, act the idiot a bit, childish in ways but I'd watch that ahead of the boring old farts

Yeah, I agree and I kind of like Bryson, but it's the spoilt entitled behaviour that I cringe at.

Emotion; anger, sadness, frustration and the like I quite like to see as it's normal and dare I say it healthy.

Acting like a spoilt baby because there was a grain of sand or blade of grass out of place, not so much.

Mac_Lad71

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Ah they show a bit of emotion, act the idiot a bit, childish in ways but I'd watch that ahead of the boring old farts

More like spoiled brats who don't realise how lucky they are..

ClutchIt

Mac_Lad71 wrote: »

McGinley did earlier..he said he preferred straight knockout format but the players
didn't.

Poulter was saying this format is nonsense.
Boo hoo if the players don't like it. It's sports entertainment. Win your match and stop cribbing.

Mantis Toboggan

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Can't blame then, imagine flying over from Asia, playing 13 holes, losing 6n5 and back on the plane. Viewing wise straight knock out definitely better though.

Until you get Kevin Na v Adam Long in the 36 hole final and nobody watches it.

Remember the first edition? Everyone expected a showdown between Tiger and Els/Duval or another of the top dogs. Ended up with Andrew Magee v Jeff Maggert.

ClutchIt

Ward J. Littell wrote: »

Until you get Kevin Na v Adam Long in the 36 hole final and nobody watches it.

Remember the first edition? Everyone expected a showdown between Tiger and Els/Duval or another of the top dogs. Ended up with Andrew Magee v Jeff Maggert.

Yes this is the reason for for format change, not players feelings. This format guarantees big names for 3 days.

The Big Easy

Ward J. Littell wrote: »

Until you get Kevin Na v Adam Long in the 36 hole final and nobody watches it.

Remember the first edition? Everyone expected a showdown between Tiger and Els/Duval or another of the top dogs. Ended up with Andrew Magee v Jeff Maggert.

Yeah, there's been some crackers alright, I remember Kevin Sutherland vs Scott McCarron. But that's the beauty of the format in my view, just doesn't work for sponsors and TV companies, too unpredictable.

The Big Easy

The Big Easy wrote: »

Yeah, there's been some crackers alright, I remember Kevin Sutherland vs Scott McCarron. But that's the beauty of the format in my view, just doesn't work for sponsors and TV companies, too unpredictable.

Yes, I'd prefer the straight knockout too. And it wouldn't kill them to do it for one event in the season.

Deeper Blue

I think a better format would be to have the top 32 in the world rather than 64. Split them into 8 groups of 4 with the top two from each group going through to the last 16, similar to the format of the champion's league. I believe it'd be an improvement on the current format for three reasons:

1. With two going through from each group there'd be a lot less dead rubbers on Friday.

2. You've got the cream of the crop in the world's top 32 so you're a lot less likely to have a Dylan Fritelli in the latter stages.

3. They'd still get the big players entering as they know they won't be knocked out on Wednesday

Dr. Bre

A lot of the big players going out . Not sure if the sponsors be happy about this.

ClutchIt

1. You'd have more dead rubbers. Players who won first 2, and players who lost first 2 have nothing to play for.

2. You're cancelling 32 players straight off so players would revolt and not accept.

3. Big name players will already play in any WGC no matter ther format. Prize is 1.8m.

Just do knockout.

Deeper Blue

ClutchIt wrote: »

1. You'd have more dead rubbers. Players who won first 2, and players who lost first 2 have nothing to play for.

2. You're cancelling 32 players straight off so players would revolt and not accept.

3. Big name players will already play in any WGC no matter ther format. Prize is 1.8m.

Just do knockout.

Knockout would be my preference too, it was way more exciting, but I think the top 32 would be preferable to top 64. If nothing else there'd be a more appealing last 16, on paper at least.

fullstop

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Can't blame then, imagine flying over from Asia, playing 13 holes, losing 6n5 and back on the plane. Viewing wise straight knock out definitely better though.

They still get 30 or 40k for turning up, so if they don’t like it, don’t come!

The crowd are such knobs, shouting random ****e all the time. Frat boys showing off to their friends vibe off it.

Mac_Lad71

fullstop wrote: »

They still get 30 or 40k for turning up, so if they don’t like it, don’t come!

The crowd are such knobs, shouting random ****e all the time. Frat boys showing off to their friends vibe off it.

The PGA tour is one of the few sporting events that is better without fans imo.

fullstop

Mac_Lad71 wrote: »

The PGA tour is one of the few sporting events that is better without fans imo.

I think if golf drew the same kind of people here that it does in the US, I’d hate the sport!

Deeper Blue

I'd like to see a Rahm/Poulter quarter final.

I reckon Scheffler will put it up to Poulter tomorrow though. I'd expect Rahm to get through against Van Rooyen.

Would also like to see Spieth go far.

Trampas

If your company is putting money into an event you want the top players around as long as possible.

It’s like when woods play. No matter what’s his score is he’s in coverage as he pulls in viewers. I don’t agree with it but that’s what it is.

Interesting of players in knockout phase is a lot of them around that top 50 spot in world rankings. Makes it a bit interesting in that way.

Good to see all the Irish players making cut on smaller event this week

The Big Easy

Jon Rahm (3) is the only one of the top 20 seeds to make it out of the groups. I think this format makes it even less likely than straight knockout for the higher seeds to advance.

More than likely going to be a very unappealing final this year, might watch the football Sunday night or maybe even something even more constructive!

Kuchar versus Streelman or Mackensie Hughes would be a no for me. Kuchar versus anyone would nearly be a no for me but I'd probably watch one of the Europeans hopefully beat him.

Wombatman

waynescales1 wrote: »

Anyone know what happened between Na and Johnson on 11 there? Na giving DJ a bit of a telling off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWnTFkNdsRU

Rikand

I'm obviously in the minority but I love the format. Guaranteed you get to see the big names for 3 days and great to see a few further down the rankings settle their hash now and again. The playoffs yesterday were brilliant TV especially with a few matches going the extra holes. I would hope they keep this format long term