How is China getting on?

Solar2021

biko wrote: »

New Year's eve in Wuhan, no vaccine administered but they are apparently fine.

Do you not believe Wuhan is Covid free? Personally I believe they are

Did New Zealand and other Covid free area's have those type celebrations?

Windmill100000

Solar2021 wrote: »

Do you not believe Wuhan is Covid free? Personally I believe they are

Did New Zealand and other Covid free area's have those type celebrations?

I very much doubt they are covid free in Wuhan. I also doubt that if they weren't they would say otherwise.

Thesomersarms

The chinese government cannot be trusted on anything they say, a dictatorship, boils my blood to see the rest of the world tear itself apart and they hold a party in Wuhan, the epicentre of this catastrophe.

Tenzor07

Solar2021 wrote: »

Do you not believe Wuhan is Covid free? Personally I believe they are

Did New Zealand and other Covid free area's have those type celebrations?

Covid free? No such thing...

Only thing that may allow the Chinese to resume some sort of normality is that they still have the borders locked down and the strain which is in Europe and USA is different to the Wuhan strain so while it's still spreading i'm sure it's not happening as quickly as the aforementioned...

Solar2021

Windmill100000 wrote: »

I very much doubt they are covid free in Wuhan. I also doubt that if they weren't they would say otherwise.

If countries like New Zealand can manage it, I am sure China can

Do you agree?

Solar2021

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Covid free? No such thing...

Only thing that may allow the Chinese to resume some sort of normality is that they still have the borders locked down and the strain which is in Europe and USA is different to the Wuhan strain so while it's still spreading i'm sure it's not happening as quickly as the aforementioned...

Think they are reporting about 20 cases a day in China

Not Covid free, but managing like other countries

If not other country could contain Covid, I wouldn't believe China but many have it contained

biko

China has been and continually is fighting efforts to find the origin of the Covid-19 virus.

Blocking research in April 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52420536

Jails reporter for investigating
https://www.euractiv.com/section/china/news/china-jails-citizen-journalist-for-four-years-over-wuhan-virus-reporting/

Investigators may never know how Covid-19 emerged in the country — and how to stop it from happening again.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-12-30/china-is-making-it-harder-to-solve-the-mystery-of-how-covid-began

Solar2021

Guess we can finally confirm Sars Cov 2 was a lab leak from Wuhan's laboratory

China have blocked WHO from investigating Wuhan

WHO director confirmed it today

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/china-blocks-who-investigators-access-to-wuhan-20210106-p56rzu.html

MidlanderMan

Solar2021 wrote: »

Guess we can finally confirm Sars Cov 2 was a lab leak from Wuhan's laboratory

China have blocked WHO from investigating Wuhan

WHO director confirmed it today

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/china-blocks-who-investigators-access-to-wuhan-20210106-p56rzu.html

Conspiracy theories forum is dat-a-way my guy.

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suicide_circus

MidlanderMan wrote: »

Conspiracy theories forum is dat-a-way my guy.

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Of all the conspiracy theories, China releasing this virus intentionally or unintentionally, is really not very far fetched. But sure they're banning WHO investigators, totally normal.

Solar2021

suicide_circus wrote: »

Of all the conspiracy theories, China releasing this virus intentionally or unintentionally, is really not very far fetched. But sure they're banning WHO investigators, totally normal.

True

Anyone that believes this came from someone eating a bat that met the wrong pangolin and landed in a modern metropolitan city of Wuhan is an idiot imo

Wuhan is not the jungles of Vietnam, its like London

Then again most people believe in a god in the sky, but don't believe this
:-(

thebaz

Solar2021 wrote: »

Guess we can finally confirm Sars Cov 2 was a lab leak from Wuhan's laboratory

China have blocked WHO from investigating Wuhan

WHO director confirmed it today

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/china-blocks-who-investigators-access-to-wuhan-20210106-p56rzu.html

China have serious questions to answer but obviously don't want to answer :-
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/05/china-blocks-entry-to-who-team-studying-covids-origins

A disgrace , as the rest of the world goes from disaster to disaster , China is suddenly mirraclously ok , with ther daily 20 cases - Peoplle are starting to see what the CCP are really like.

Bellejelles

If you don't say china is doing great you disappear into reeducation camps
Chinese covid vaccine has killed people in Brazil and peru but you don't hear about it in china..

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/china-sentences-wuhan-whistleblower-to-four-years-in-prison

thebaz

I have been critical of WHO in the early days, but fair play to them in calling out China for ther lack of tranperancy and help in trying to get behind what caused this horrible virus.

AllForIt

China gave us Covid

USA gave us a vaccine. As did the UK, you know, Americas partner in crime.


Oh sorry, did I just say sometime positive about the West. Do forgive me, I hope I haven't broken any charter rules, written or unwritten.


Once this is all over I hope the West's commentariat will get their priorities straight.

Kermit.de.frog

This has to be unacceptable to the international community suffering the consequences today for recklessness and evasion at the very beginning of this disease.

https://twitter.com/TomTugendhat/status/1346763090650685443

jimmycrackcorm

Solar2021 wrote: »

True

Anyone that believes this came from someone eating a bat that met the wrong pangolin and landed in a modern metropolitan city of Wuhan is an idiot imo

Wuhan is not the jungles of Vietnam, its like London

Then again most people believe in a god in the sky, but don't believe this
:-(

Where did Spanish flu come from?

Wibbs

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Where did Spanish flu come from?

Likely the Far East again, mutating in America and the coming to Europe where selection pressures because of WW1 gave rise to a second variant that was far more deadly than the first wave variant.

Away With The Fairies

So a year on, how is China getting on?

I thought China has a vaccine. With the way how quickly they move you would think their whole population would be vaccinated by now. But they've just put two cities in lockdown and will be testing every resident, something like 6 million people to be tested over two days.

Or do the Chinese face the same problems we do with the vaccines? They can't vaccinate unless they actually have the vaccines. So needs time to make them.

washman3

thebaz wrote: »

I have been critical of WHO in the early days, but fair play to them in calling out China for ther lack of tranperancy and help in trying to get behind what caused this horrible virus.

Might lead to those at the top receiving more lenient sentences when the criminal trials take place down the road.
If Tedros avoids a lenghty/life sentence everything will have been in vain.
Others with him have serious questions to answer, none less so than Irishman Michael Ryan.
Pray that justice will be served.

DaSilva

washman3 wrote: »

Might lead to those at the top receiving more lenient sentences when the criminal trials take place down the road.
If Tedros avoids a lenghty/life sentence everything will have been in vain.
Others with him have serious questions to answer, none less so than Irishman Michael Ryan.
Pray that justice will be served.

What are you talking about? What justice? What crime have they committed?

Blud

AllForIt wrote: »

China gave us Covid

USA gave us a vaccine. As did the UK, you know, Americas partner in crime.


Oh sorry, did I just say sometime positive about the West. Do forgive me, I hope I haven't broken any charter rules, written or unwritten.


Once this is all over I hope the West's commentariat will get their priorities straight.

What vaccine did the US give us?

Thats me

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So a year on, how is China getting on?

Travelling inlands is not restricted for a long time. Some public places are closed. In rare occasions when cluster discovered government do everything to isolate area and do total testing, locals trying to escape from blocked areas, but seems they (Chinese govt) are able to maintain infection rate on really low level. This is my impression from what friends living there writing/photographying..

CJhaughey

A relative of mine has taken a plane trip to Hainan Island, travel doesn't seem to be restricted in any way.
There was a case in Shanghai airport and they did some testing, I think over 10k people were tested in all.
So it looks like aggressive test and trace is what they are doing to keep it under control, seems to work for them.

dartboardio

How on earth has there only been a total of something like 1500 cases in the entire area of Shanghai throughout the whole pandemic? and 7 deaths?

and China has had a total of 87k cases throughout the entire pandemic too, which seems a little low for a country of over a billion people.. considering India are in the millions.

washman3

DaSilva wrote: »

What are you talking about? What justice? What crime have they committed?

Have you been living in a cave these last few months.??
Looks very likely you have.
Just take one of them for now, Tedros, and google his name for yourself.
A truely horrible indispicible creature than should be rotting in a prison long before this particular crisis began.

CharlieHaghy

China are a great bunch of lads.

washman3

dartboardio wrote: »

How on earth has there only been a total of something like 1500 cases in the entire area of Shanghai throughout the whole pandemic? and 7 deaths?

and China has had a total of 87k cases throughout the entire pandemic too, which seems a little low for a country of over a billion people.

Ask the World Health Organisation (WHO). They are being paid megabucks to know why this is happening. They are the people that need to ask the hard questions.!!

CharlieHaghy

washman3 wrote: »

Ask the World Health Organisation (WHO). They are being paid megabucks to know why this is happening. They are the people that need to ask the hard questions.!!

Let’s be honest who are exactly WHO?

AMKC

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Where did Spanish flu come from?

It came from a chicken farm in America.

Wibbs wrote: »

Likely the Far East again, mutating in America and the coming to Europe where selection pressures because of WW1 gave rise to a second variant that was far more deadly than the first wave variant.

Bulls,hit. It came from a chicken farm in America. A couple of lads from that farm went to fight in WW1 and did not know they bad it but it then killed thousands on the ships going across the Atlantic and many thousands more got infected and spread it on the war fields.
The reason ot was named the Spanish flu is because the Spanish named it as no one else would be cause they were all involved in the War and thought people had enough bad things to be working about but the Spanish were neutral.