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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,300 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    AMKC wrote: »
    It came from a chicken farm in America.


    Did it not come from a Army Base in Kansas.

    A cook Called Gitchell

    First cases reported in deadly Spanish flu pandemic

    Just before breakfast on the morning of March 4, Private Albert Gitchell of the U.S. Army reports to the hospital at Fort Riley, Kansas, complaining of the cold-like symptoms of sore throat, fever and headache.

    By noon, over 100 of his fellow soldiers had reported similar symptoms, marking what are believed to be the first cases in the historic influenza pandemic of 1918, later known as Spanish flu.

    The flu would eventually kill 675,000 Americans and an estimated 20 million to 50 million people around the world, proving to be a far deadlier force than even the First World War.


    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-cases-reported-in-deadly-influenza-epidemic

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭peterofthebr


    China has now locked down 11M people in Hebei provence due to new outbreak. They need to contain this one as its coming up to the China new year... what could possibly go wrong!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    China has now locked down 11M people in Hebei provence due to new outbreak. They need to contain this one as its coming up to the China new year... what could possibly go wrong!!!


    Ding ding # Round 2 ...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 Dafterss


    China probably has the most deaths from covid but no body knows as you dissapear if you talk about it
    There was a lot of deaths in peru and brazil from chinese vaccine Chinese doctor calls the nation's Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine 'the most unsafe in the world with SEVENTY-THREE side effects'


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,035 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Dafterss wrote: »
    China probably has the most deaths from covid but no body knows as you dissapear if you talk about it
    There was a lot of deaths in peru and brazil from chinese vaccine Chinese doctor calls the nation's Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine 'the most unsafe in the world with SEVENTY-THREE side effects'

    Looks like it was just poor journalism about sinopharm vaccine.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.abs-cbn.com/amp/overseas/01/08/21/chinese-expert-says-misquoted-on-post-about-sinopharm-covid-19-vaccines-side-effects-report


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    xhomelezz wrote: »

    Hmmmm ...
    Chinese state-run media outlet Global Times has stated that Lina has "clarified that Chinese inactivated vaccines are safe". The media outlet said that Lina had posted sarcastic comments about the Sinopharm vaccine which were meant as a disclaimer for hostile parties. These sarcastic statements were wrongly interpreted by Voice of America (VOA) on its website.

    https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/trends/chinese-doctor-claims-sinopharm-vaccine-is-most-unsafe-retracts-comments-hours-later/story/427391.html

    It wouldn't be because the doctor has been told that he shouldn't be saying things which 'violate the People’s Republic of China' or something?

    I wonder whether he will be convicted of "picking quarrels and provoking troublemaking" or making "false comments” that “severely disturbed the social order” or similar?

    https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2020/03/falqs-spreading-rumors-and-police-reprimand-under-chinese-law/

    https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3115529/coronavirus-citizen-journalist-china-sentenced-four-years-jail


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Water2021


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    Looks like it was just poor journalism about sinopharm vaccine.

    People really need to wake up and stop with these stupid " West is the best ", stereotypes

    The Chinese are the most technically advanced nation in the world

    They are racing ahead in everything

    Semiconductor, Aerospace, Pharmacology, Military, you name it.

    No one can compete with them

    They are well capable of making a grade A vaccine

    If covid has proved one thing to the world, it's China are the world leader's, the super power, they crushed Covid while the Western world have been shown up to be complete morons


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Samsonsmasher


    Water2021 wrote: »
    People really need to wake up and stop with these stupid " West is the best ", stereotypes

    The Chinese are the most technically advanced nation in the world

    They are racing ahead in everything

    Semiconductor, Aerospace, Pharmacology, Military, you name it.

    No one can compete with them

    They are well capable of making a grade A vaccine

    If covid has proved one thing to the world, it's China are the world leader's, the super power, they crushed Covid while the Western world have been shown up to be complete morons

    Or the CCP simply declared the pandemic was over. They are a totalitarian system so they can say they have zero cases and zero deaths if they like. The truth is they have cases and deaths just like the rest of the world.


  • Posts: 8,647 [Deleted User]


    China is ****e for pharmaceuticals. You can't trust the data.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Water2021


    Or the CCP simply declared the pandemic was over. They are a totalitarian system so they can say they have zero cases and zero deaths if they like. The truth is they have cases and deaths just like the rest of the world.

    Not true

    China have people flying all over the world and no countries have flagged cases coming from there

    They are as close to Covid free as possible

    The West doesn't want to accept that they got it all wrong and are coming out with propaganda like you did just there


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  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    Water2021 wrote: »
    People really need to wake up and stop with these stupid " West is the best ", stereotypes

    The Chinese are the most technically advanced nation in the world

    They are racing ahead in everything

    Semiconductor, Aerospace, Pharmacology, Military, you name it.

    No one can compete with them

    They are well capable of making a grade A vaccine

    If covid has proved one thing to the world, it's China are the world leader's, the super power, they crushed Covid while the Western world have been shown up to be complete morons

    The funniest comment here by far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Water2021


    Das Reich wrote: »
    The funniest comment here by far.

    Are you going to argue the point or just a silly one liner?

    Why are they not the most advanced?


  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    Water2021 wrote: »
    Are you going to argue the point or just a silly one liner?

    Why are they not the most advanced?

    Advanced on making programmed obsolence products that wont last for long. And its not just a "western" propagada as everywhere you go people talk bad about things made in China.


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    Water2021 wrote: »
    People really need to wake up and stop with these stupid " West is the best ", stereotypes

    The Chinese are the most technically advanced nation in the world

    They are racing ahead in everything

    Semiconductor, Aerospace, Pharmacology, Military, you name it.

    No one can compete with them

    They are well capable of making a grade A vaccine

    If covid has proved one thing to the world, it's China are the world leader's, the super power, they crushed Covid while the Western world have been shown up to be complete morons

    What are you on about ? China is decades behind in semi conductors, aerospace pharmacology and military! They cannot make better than 14nm chips and that’s 20 years ago version. They have not managed to create a commercial aeroplane yet and are decades behind in material science. Their vaccine is unknown and using the old non rdna tech and military is big but primitive. Only have one aircraft carrier that is an old Russian design from the 70s

    They killed hundreds of their babies and left thousands with chronic issues after a vaccine just a few years ago.

    Get away with your toxic bull**** propaganda and back to ccp mafia land with you and take your virus with you too thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭peterofthebr


    gozunda wrote: »
    Hmmmm ...



    https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/trends/chinese-doctor-claims-sinopharm-vaccine-is-most-unsafe-retracts-comments-hours-later/story/427391.html

    It wouldn't be because the doctor has been told that he shouldn't be saying things which 'violate the People’s Republic of China' or something?

    I wonder whether he will be convicted of "picking quarrels and provoking troublemaking" or making "false comments” that “severely disturbed the social order” or similar?

    https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2020/03/falqs-spreading-rumors-and-police-reprimand-under-chinese-law/

    https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3115529/coronavirus-citizen-journalist-china-sentenced-four-years-jail

    Exactly I'm sure he as advised for his career, family and friends that he focuses on his job and not give his erroneous views against the peoples republic


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    Captcha wrote: »
    What are you on about ? China is decades behind in semi conductors, aerospace pharmacology and military! They cannot make better than 14nm chips and that’s 20 years ago version. They have not managed to create a commercial aeroplane yet and are decades behind in material science. Their vaccine is unknown and using the old non rdna tech and military is big but primitive. Only have one aircraft carrier that is an old Russian design from the 70s

    They killed hundreds of their babies and left thousands with chronic issues after a vaccine just a few years ago.

    Get away with your toxic bull**** propaganda and back to ccp mafia land with you and take your virus with you too thanks

    Also - Huawei is a conjob, using non Chinese tech. Without foreign tech Huawei is nothing. What Huawei have, they stole or bought.


  • Registered Users Posts: 695 ✭✭✭DaSilva


    washman3 wrote: »
    Have you been living in a cave these last few months.??
    Looks very likely you have.
    Just take one of them for now, Tedros, and google his name for yourself.
    A truely horrible indispicible creature than should be rotting in a prison long before this particular crisis began.

    Grow a pair. Tell us your opinion, what are crimes are you suggesting they committed?
    I have been paying attention and have not seen a single suggestion of crimes being committed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Water2021 wrote: »
    People really need to wake up and stop with these stupid " West is the best ", stereotypes

    The Chinese are the most technically advanced nation in the world

    They are racing ahead in everything

    Semiconductor, Aerospace, Pharmacology, Military, you name it.

    No one can compete with them

    They are well capable of making a grade A vaccine

    If covid has proved one thing to the world, it's China are the world leader's, the super power, they crushed Covid while the Western world have been shown up to be complete morons

    That's why there eating bats


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Water2021 wrote: »
    Are you going to argue the point or just a silly one liner?

    Why are they not the most advanced?


    Because CNN news told him so.....;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Water2021 wrote: »
    People really need to wake up and stop with these stupid " West is the best ", stereotypes

    ....

    No one can compete with them

    They are well capable of making a grade A vaccine

    If covid has proved one thing to the world, it's China are the world leader's, the super power, they crushed Covid while the Western world have been shown up to be complete morons

    China - a great bunch of lads ...

    Coronavirus Pandemic?

    Don't see anyone claiming 'west is best' btw.

    Nearly 2 million dead and over 90 million infected worldwide. Refusing to admit there was a problem developing in Wuhan in January, telling WHO that person to person transmission wasn't a problem and not stopping flights from China during the initial outbreak there - nah.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Spanishpoint


    Captcha wrote: »
    Also - Huawei is a conjob, using non Chinese tech. Without foreign tech Huawei is nothing. What Huawei have, they stole or bought.

    I think they are much bigger than that


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    DaSilva wrote: »
    Grow a pair. Tell us your opinion, what are crimes are you suggesting they committed?
    I have been paying attention and have not seen a single suggestion of crimes being committed.


    You've been paying attention to what.? The Simpsons maybe.!!
    Broaden your horizons and do a bit of proper research yourself rather than listening to CNN propaganda.


    The WHO failed miserably to confront Chinese leaders for withholding information about the virus early in the pandemic. Issued a statement that there was no evidence of spread through person to person contact, thus slowing the response by health officials around the Globe at the most crucial point in the pandemic.
    Bruce Alyward a leading official travelled to China in February and concluded that the virus wasn't transmitted by asymptomatic carriers.
    Failed to highlight that the CCP had banned any travel from Wuhan to anywhere in China, yet allowed worldwide travel in and out of Wuhan.
    Taiwan reported human to human transmission on December 31 2019, yet the WHO failed to act on this until January 30 2020.
    When the CCP critised countries like USA and Israel for restrictive travel bans from China in February, the WHO incredibly backed China rather than act in the interest of public health and err on the side of caution.
    They supported the opening of Wet Markets in Wuhan in April.
    The WHO are virtually a wholly owned subsidiary of the CCP.

    It is largely staffed at the top with political/academical professionals rather than medical professionals, in other words people that can be bought.!!
    They are either incompetent or complicit (or both) in this crisis and neither is acceptable for the amount of money it receives to further it's mission.
    Nobody can deny that some of the best scientists in the World work for the WHO, but what's the point when we see the behaviour of those at the top who make the final decisions. It must be heartbreaking for these scientists, but they need to become whistleblowers.
    If the carry on of these officials at the top is not deemed a criminal act with any inquiry or trial down the line all these covid deaths will have been in vain.
    Remember, during the Nuremberg Trials after the Hitler era, 'i was only doing my job' or 'i didn't know' excuses weren't enough to save those involved from execution. The same must apply here and hopefully those guilty will rot in prison. They did know but turned a blind eye and hid it.!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 695 ✭✭✭DaSilva


    washman3 wrote: »
    You've been paying attention to what.? The Simpsons maybe.!!
    Broaden your horizons and do a bit of proper research yourself rather than listening to CNN propaganda.


    The WHO failed miserably to confront Chinese leaders for withholding information about the virus early in the pandemic. Issued a statement that there was no evidence of spread through person to person contact, thus slowing the response by health officials around the Globe at the most crucial point in the pandemic.
    Bruce Alyward a leading official travelled to China in February and concluded that the virus wasn't transmitted by asymptomatic carriers.
    Failed to highlight that the CCP had banned any travel from Wuhan to anywhere in China, yet allowed worldwide travel in and out of Wuhan.
    Taiwan reported human to human transmission on December 31 2019, yet the WHO failed to act on this until January 30 2020.
    When the CCP critised countries like USA and Israel for restrictive travel bans from China in February, the WHO incredibly backed China rather than act in the interest of public health and err on the side of caution.
    They supported the opening of Wet Markets in Wuhan in April.
    The WHO are virtually a wholly owned subsidiary of the CCP.

    It is largely staffed at the top with political/academical professionals rather than medical professionals, in other words people that can be bought.!!
    They are either incompetent or complicit (or both) in this crisis and neither is acceptable for the amount of money it receives to further it's mission.
    Nobody can deny that some of the best scientists in the World work for the WHO, but what's the point when we see the behaviour of those at the top who make the final decisions. It must be heartbreaking for these scientists, but they need to become whistleblowers.
    If the carry on of these officials at the top is not deemed a criminal act with any inquiry or trial down the line all these covid deaths will have been in vain.
    Remember, during the Nuremberg Trials after the Hitler era, 'i was only doing my job' or 'i didn't know' excuses weren't enough to save those involved from execution. The same must apply here and hopefully those guilty will rot in prison. They did know but turned a blind eye and hid it.!!

    I see, so you have 0 evidence of any crimes, the closest is some accusations of corruption or that they didn't know all the details about a newly emerging virus immediately. So I can take from that your original post was just hyperbole.


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    washman3 wrote: »
    You've been paying attention to what.? The Simpsons maybe.!!
    Broaden your horizons and do a bit of proper research yourself rather than listening to CNN propaganda.


    The WHO failed miserably to confront Chinese leaders for withholding information about the virus early in the pandemic. Issued a statement that there was no evidence of spread through person to person contact, thus slowing the response by health officials around the Globe at the most crucial point in the pandemic.
    Bruce Alyward a leading official travelled to China in February and concluded that the virus wasn't transmitted by asymptomatic carriers.
    Failed to highlight that the CCP had banned any travel from Wuhan to anywhere in China, yet allowed worldwide travel in and out of Wuhan.
    Taiwan reported human to human transmission on December 31 2019, yet the WHO failed to act on this until January 30 2020.
    When the CCP critised countries like USA and Israel for restrictive travel bans from China in February, the WHO incredibly backed China rather than act in the interest of public health and err on the side of caution.
    They supported the opening of Wet Markets in Wuhan in April.
    The WHO are virtually a wholly owned subsidiary of the CCP.

    It is largely staffed at the top with political/academical professionals rather than medical professionals, in other words people that can be bought.!!
    They are either incompetent or complicit (or both) in this crisis and neither is acceptable for the amount of money it receives to further it's mission.
    Nobody can deny that some of the best scientists in the World work for the WHO, but what's the point when we see the behaviour of those at the top who make the final decisions. It must be heartbreaking for these scientists, but they need to become whistleblowers.
    If the carry on of these officials at the top is not deemed a criminal act with any inquiry or trial down the line all these covid deaths will have been in vain.
    Remember, during the Nuremberg Trials after the Hitler era, 'i was only doing my job' or 'i didn't know' excuses weren't enough to save those involved from execution. The same must apply here and hopefully those guilty will rot in prison. They did know but turned a blind eye and hid it.!!

    THe IRish government in being so wise did a F U to USA and increased WHO funding by 4 million or something around the time USA announced its withdrawal of funding. Was it arrogance from Irish overpaid government? Or lack of vision / cop on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    Water2021 wrote: »
    People really need to wake up and stop with these stupid " West is the best ", stereotypes

    The Chinese are the most technically advanced nation in the world

    They are racing ahead in everything

    Semiconductor, Aerospace, Pharmacology, Military, you name it.

    No one can compete with them

    They are well capable of making a grade A vaccine

    If covid has proved one thing to the world, it's China are the world leader's, the super power, they crushed Covid while the Western world have been shown up to be complete morons

    CCP propaganda bot alert quoted above. Can't escape the CCP army of misinformation bots out to undermine freedom of speech in the west, even on boards, a tiny countries forum. Reddit is destroyed in lots of subs by the toxic Chinese ccp parasite bots / wumao. CCP is the most dangerous entity on earth

    CCP Vaccine is only 50.38% effective
    In Brazil, where Sinovac’s biggest trial of more than 13,000 people is being conducted, dueling efficacy rates have been publicized. The company’s local trial partner, Butantan Institute, said last week that the vaccine was 78% effective in preventing mild cases of Covid-19 and 100% effective against severe and moderate infections. Yet on Tuesday, Butantan said the overall rate, which also includes very mild cases that didn’t require medical help, is actually 50.38%.

    https://www.bloombergquint.com/china/china-vaccine-going-global-with-four-different-efficacy-rates

    Made in China baby lotion allegedly contains hormones that produce “Michelin babies”

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13712118/mum-baby-face-balloons-twice-size-grows-hair-steroid/

    https://taiwanenglishnews.com/made-in-china-baby-lotion-allegedly-contains-hormones-that-produces-michelin-babies/
    After the girl's parents brought her to a local hospital in China, doctors ran a series of tests in a bid to figure out the little girl's sudden weight gain.

    Medics said they were baffled after being told by the parents that the only food she was receiving was her mother's breast milk, which was tested and found to be normal.

    Doctors asked the parents to reduce the girl's food intake, however, a month later the problem was much worse.

    The little girl had swelled to double her size and had grown dark hair on her forehead and cheeks.

    Following another visit to the hospital, the baby was transferred to a specialist unit where a nurse noted that four other babies had been suffering from the same symptoms.

    The nurse asked the mother if she had been using any creams on her daughter to which she produced "Yifulin", the cream she had been using to treat her daughter's dry skin.

    A later examination of the product found that it contained 30mg of clobetasol propionate, which doctors claimed should only have been used for a short period of time.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭Cerveza


    China has first death in 8 months due to Covid, read there on rte website.


  • Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭clever user name


    Lots of provinces now require negative COVID tests and 14 days 'health monitoring' for anyone arriving from a different province. Even low risk ones.

    Mask wearing has jumped up again, need to scan QR code to go into malls/banks/subways/taxi's etc, the disinfectant guys spraying everything and their mother.

    Any place where a case pops up gets immediately shut down. If it's just one case, and they can trace it, then they will just shut down that area. Shijiazhuang seems to have had a surge, so they city is now locked down. Dalian was the same last week, entire districts of the cities locked down. Everyone in those districts is tested, everyone.

    9 people from a wedding in Hebei province, where there was at least one positive test, returned to the city that I'm in. They traced those 9 peoples movement through the health code thing on your phone. At least one of those 9 people had taken the subway that evening, that led to 3000 peoples code turning red and having to isolate and be tested. They don't **** around here.

    I'm not looking forward to Chinese new year, to put it mildly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭Cerveza


    The local Chinese restaurant has closed its take away here, they are taking no chances either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,670 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    China's racing to build weird hospitals all over the place again for quarantining and putting more populations under very strict lockdowns.

    The official position is "nothing to see here".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭Cerveza


    Time to load the mixer in the van and road trip.


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