No more parking on the footpaths on Rathdown road

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Panjandrums

Fair play to WCC for making the area safer.

Skyfloater

Is this not going to make more dangerous for cyclists?

Panjandrums

Skyfloater wrote: »

Is this not going to make more dangerous for cyclists?

How so?

endacl

Skyfloater wrote: »

Is this not going to make more dangerous for cyclists?

Safer, arguably. If a cyclist is slightly farther out in the lane, a driver is less likely to try to squeeze past to overtake in heavy traffic.

John_Rambo

It's a shame to have awful looking lumps of plastic street furniture to keep motorists from driving off the road and on to footpaths. Really shows up us motorists as being terrible motorists. :mad:

Taltos

They did the same in Delgany to stop people parking outside of The Delgany.
There are still motorists who now part opposite in the bus stop - as you said John - shows that some motorists are just selfish and have no consideration for anyone else using the road.

Skyfloater

endacl wrote: »

Safer, arguably. If a cyclist is slightly farther out in the lane, a driver is less likely to try to squeeze past to overtake in heavy traffic.

Going downhill it shouldn't matter too much as the cyclist is going fast, but uphill is another matter. If you think that motorists are going to wait patiently behind a cyclist all the way from Centra up to the traffic lights, that's just not going to happen.

endacl

Skyfloater wrote: »

Going downhill it shouldn't matter too much as the cyclist is going fast, but uphill is another matter. If you think that motorists are going to wait patiently behind a cyclist all the way from Centra up to the traffic lights, that's just not going to happen.

They’ll have no choice if there’s no room to get past. That’s a question of driver patience, not cyclist safety.

2011

Skyfloater wrote: »

Going downhill it shouldn't matter too much as the cyclist is going fast, but uphill is another matter. If you think that motorists are going to wait patiently behind a cyclist all the way from Centra up to the traffic lights, that's just not going to happen.

I have cycled it both ways. It’s not a problem.
Now that the cars can’t park there it will be much safer.

awec

Taltos wrote: »

They did the same in Delgany to stop people parking outside of The Delgany.
There are still motorists who now part opposite in the bus stop - as you said John - shows that some motorists are just selfish and have no consideration for anyone else using the road.

I think the ones in Delgany are temporary?

fortwilliam

It is to prevent parents parking there while dropping off their children to school.
It was mayhem, selfish parents blocking the footpath meaning other parents could not pass with a buggy, or kids on bikes could not get through.
unfortunately, this will just push the problem down to Centra and the old cinema, heaven forbid walking to school.

ActingDanClark

Taltos wrote: »

They did the same in Delgany to stop people parking outside of The Delgany.
There are still motorists who now part opposite in the bus stop - as you said John - shows that some motorists are just selfish and have no consideration for anyone else using the road.

I grimace watching the innocents sipping their cappuccino with only these plastic wands to protect them as 2 tonnes of metal approach at 70 kph from the n11

loyatemu

it's annoying that such ugly interventions are required. It seems unless you physically block them, some people will literally park anywhere. Driving through the village yesterday somebody had parked a camper van with all 4 wheels on the footpath outside Insomnia!

Having said that, I understand the frustrations of some of the St. Kevin's parents. St. Patricks NS has the use of the church carpark, the schools at Blacklion can use Lidl's carpark, but St. Kevin's parents have nowhere to drop off (and pro-cycling though I am, I acknowledge there are some who have no choice but to drive).

2011

fortwilliam wrote: »

It is to prevent parents parking there while dropping off their children to school.

+1

This narrow road simply cant accommodate the chaos that ensues when convoys of oversized MPV’s and 4 x 4’s all attempt to drop off kids at the same time.

2011

loyatemu wrote: »

Having said that, I understand the frustrations of some of the St. Kevin's parents. St. Patricks NS has the use of the church carpark, the schools at Blacklion can use Lidl's carpark, but St. Kevin's parents have nowhere to drop off (and pro-cycling though I am, I acknowledge there are some who have no choice but to drive).

Why not drop them off at Lidl's carpark?
It is a very short walk to St. Kevin's from there.
Problem solved.

loyatemu

2011 wrote: »

Why not drop them off at Lidl's carpark?
It is a very short walk to St. Kevin's from there.
Problem solved.

It's 700 metres and involves crossing 2 roads, if you're dropping off a junior infant that's a pretty long walk and then you have to walk back again. But you're right, it is an option for older kids, my point was the other schools have better options (e.g. the church carpark is less than 200m from St Patrick's and Laurences have a dedicated set down area, though that has other implications for traffic at the school). I'm not making a case of allowing them park on Rathdown Rd.