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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's getting worse! :rolleyes:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56340162
    A translator from Spain says his version of a poem read at US President Joe Biden's inauguration was rejected because he had the wrong "profile".

    Víctor Obiols was commissioned to work on the Catalan translation of Amanda Gorman's The Hill We Climb last month.

    But after he completed the project, the publishers said they wanted a translator who was "a woman, young, activist and preferably black".
    It's not how good you are, it's what you are that matters!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,789 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Does Denise Chila know any Irish?


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Salvation Tambourine


    It's getting worse! :rolleyes:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56340162


    It's not how good you are, it's what you are that matters!
    "But if I cannot translate a poet because she is a woman, young, black, an American of the 21st Century, neither can I translate Homer because I am not a Greek of the eighth century BC. Or could not have translated Shakespeare because I am not a 16th-Century Englishman," he added.

    Excellent line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭carfinder


    It's getting worse! :rolleyes:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56340162


    It's not how good you are, it's what you are that matters!

    Surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander! Feminists want equality for the sexes so surely this applies for a man being discriminated because of his gender and race!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    carfinder wrote: »
    Surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander! Feminists want equality for the sexes so surely this applies for a man being discriminated because of his gender and race!
    You don't understand 'woke' :), its a perceived pyramid of tiered oppression with cis white privileged males at the very bottom(the worst) and trans at the top(the most oppressed). So being at the bottom you can only 'ally' with the tiers above, you cannot comment against or expect equality on the tiers above.

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭rightmove


    carfinder wrote: »
    Surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander! Feminists want equality for the sexes so surely this applies for a man being discriminated because of his gender and race!

    logic dont come into it. That is the fight that needs to be had.


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Achebe


    A lot of things that titania has tweeted has later happened. Such as skyscrapers being described as phallic.

    It's quite clever satire as it's not that far away from reality.
    People have been describing skyscrapers as phallic since about the 1930s.

    737136.jpg?b64lines=ICggd2hpc3BlcnMpIApPaCwgTWFyZ2UsIGdyb3cgdXAhIA==


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    A school teacher in Canada showed a class of 6-year-olds a video entitled Gender: Queer Kid Stuff. The video stated that “some people aren’t boys or girls” and that those who do not feel like a ‘she’ or a ‘he’ might not have a gender.
    On another occasion, the teacher drew a gender spectrum on the board and asked each student to identify where they fit on the spectrum. NB indicated that she was on the furthest end of the spectrum marked “girl.” The teacher then told the class that “girls are not real, and boys are not real”


    It got to the point where the child, questioned why her identity as a girl was “not real.” The kid even questioned if she wanted to be a mam when she grew up, leading her to ask to go to the doctor as if to say there was something "wrong" about who she is. This teacher did such a number on the child it felt like it had to do something about the fact that she is a girl. The teacher was sound enough to give a lesson on the concepts of the gender spectrum and sex changes.......the child is 6.

    The parents taking it to court did not give consent to the school/teacher to teach this. Not only did the teachers bolloxogy undermine the child's foundational concept of identity, but it contradicted biological reality. Fact!!

    The school board tried to get the case dismissed, they argued that classroom discussions about gender identity and gender expression cannot be the basis of a Human Rights Code infringement. The Judge:
    “If everyone has a gender identity, and gender identities are protected under the Code, then NB’s (child) gender identity as a girl should be protected,” said Justice Centre staff lawyer Lisa Bildy. “If the School Board can accommodate the inclusion of trans and other gender identities into the classroom setting, then surely they can accommodate the inclusion of children who experience no discord between their biology and their sense of self.”

    These bastards are just sad individuals and I pity them.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/court-to-hear-case-of-6-year-old-traumatized-by-teacher-insisting-girls-arent-real


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Does Denise Chila know any Irish?
    If she grew up here and went through the Irish school system she presumably has as little Irish as everyone else in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Sheeps wrote: »
    If she grew up here and went through the Irish school system she presumably has as little Irish as everyone else in this country.
    :D

    Snap!


  • Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Turquoise Hexagon Sun


    Just saw this on Twitter. Not exactly wokism of the day but pretty close.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,789 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Just saw this on Twitter. Not exactly wokism of the day but pretty close

    What's the context? Is there some hypocrisy, is it the same people?


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Achebe


    Just saw this on Twitter. Not exactly wokism of the day but pretty close.

    EwH8cUGWgAU00A8?format=jpg&name=medium

    If only a left wing candidate representing the ideals of Occupy Wall Street had risen to unprecedented heights in US politics since 2012.


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Achebe


    What's the context? Is there some hypocrisy, is it the same people?

    Not a hope. But what else can you expect from a thread where people can't tell the difference between liberal and left?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    A school teacher in Canada showed a class of 6-year-olds a video entitled Gender: Queer Kid Stuff. The video stated that “some people aren’t boys or girls” and that those who do not feel like a ‘she’ or a ‘he’ might not have a gender.




    It got to the point where the child, questioned why her identity as a girl was “not real.” The kid even questioned if she wanted to be a mam when she grew up, leading her to ask to go to the doctor as if to say there was something "wrong" about who she is. This teacher did such a number on the child it felt like it had to do something about the fact that she is a girl. The teacher was sound enough to give a lesson on the concepts of the gender spectrum and sex changes.......the child is 6.

    The parents taking it to court did not give consent to the school/teacher to teach this. Not only did the teachers bolloxogy undermine the child's foundational concept of identity, but it contradicted biological reality. Fact!!

    The school board tried to get the case dismissed, they argued that classroom discussions about gender identity and gender expression cannot be the basis of a Human Rights Code infringement. The Judge:



    These bastards are just sad individuals and I pity them.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/court-to-hear-case-of-6-year-old-traumatized-by-teacher-insisting-girls-arent-real

    They shouldn't be let near a classroom to spout their sick ideology to children and mess up their heads. I recently seen this crap in new york ,


    https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/ny-lawmaker-wants-sex-ed-for-kindergartners/

    Get ready for the latest woke wave in education: comprehensive sex ed for kids as young as 5 — thanks to a new bill in the state Senate.

    Legislation sponsored by state Sen. Samra G. Brouk, a freshman Democrat from Rochester, would tie New York’s health curriculum to standards written by a left-wing interest group that advocates “Sex Ed for Social Change” — and would make those lessons mandatory statewide.

    Under that group’s current standards, public and charter schools would have to teach 5-year-olds about “gender identity” and instruct 8-year-olds on hormone blockers to prevent puberty in transgender-identifying preteens.

    Kids as young as 11 would get lectures on “vaginal, oral, and anal sex”; study “queer, two-spirit, asexual, pansexual” and other gender identities; and receive explicit instruction on the use of external and internal condoms, dental dams and other contraceptives.


    Brouk told The Post, “I am greatly concerned about the unacceptably high incidence of relationship violence, sexual harassment and assault, and online bullying in our society today. We must equip the next generation with the skills and education they will need to thrive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Speaking of New York schools

    The Grace Church School in Noho — which offers academic courses for junior kindergarten through 12th grade — issued a 12-page guide to students and staff explaining the school’s mission of inclusivity.

    The detailed guide recommends using the terms “grown-ups,” “folks,” “family” or “guardians” as alternatives to “mom,” “dad” and “parents.” It also suggests using “caregiver” instead of “nanny/babysitter.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/10/nyc-school-encourages-kids-to-stop-using-words-mom-dad/


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,295 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/green-party-peer-6pm-curfew-men-disappearance-of-sarah-everard-b923587.html
    Men should be banned from being outdoors after 6pm to 'make women a lot safer' after the abduction and suspected murder of Sarah Everard in London, a Green Party peer has suggested.

    Green Party peer Jenny Jones has called for a 6pm curfew for men after the disappearance of Sarah Everard.

    "I argue that, at the next opportunity for any Bill that is appropriate, I might put in an amendment to create a curfew for men on the streets after 6 pm. I feel this would make women a lot safer, and discrimination of all kinds would be lessened.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭Cordell


    That's useless, any man can self identify as a woman after 6pm.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Silly men thinking they should have the right to be out after six. Why would they be angry?

    Jesus Christ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,789 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    If it's about keeping women safe, shouldnt they be the ones kept inside ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    Irish activist and Social Democrat politician Linda Hayden now being outed on Twitter for tweeting some of the most vile racism you're likely to see.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,606 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha



    I was loosely affiliated with the Green Party of England & Wales for a while. This doesn't surprise me neither in its sexism, misandry, sheer stupidity or impracticality. It's frankly disgusting that they're using this woman's death to score petty points like this.

    The Greens are a "progressive" party. I dissociated myself from them when I saw one of senior people at my local branch sharing news items involving men dying and making fun of them. Same individual was pushing hard to have male performers excluded from gigs a few days a week on the campus I worked at at the time.

    They were also for House of Lords reform but that didn't stop Jenny Jones from leaping for a handout, nor former leader Natalie Bennett. Principles stop at the point where palms can be greased it would seem.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    If it's about keeping women safe, shouldnt they be the ones kept inside ?

    In fairness it does work like that, however. .... I have been attacked on one occasion, it happens to men to and usual it from other men.... I am much more aware of my surroundings and even as a guy heading home late at night on my own is a risk that I have taken... and if I see a woman I stay well back because I do know she might be intimated. ....


    However much of the stories from today's twitter fest failed to mention that not only was a man arrested but a woman was also arrested for assisting him.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-56351135
    A woman, in her 30s, is also in custody after being arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender.

    Be careful. But stories like I look in the back of my car before I get in, I make sure I lock the doors, I reverse into a car space for a quick get away...

    I lock my doors if I get stuck at pedestrian lights, I just do it out of caution.

    These might be things you should be aware of as a Driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Baroness Jones got the idea from Israel's former Prime Minister Golda Meir.
    Once in a Cabinet we had to deal with the fact that there had been an outbreak of assaults on women at night.
    One minister suggested a curfew; women should stay home after dark.

    I said, 'But it's the men who are attacking the women. If there's to be a curfew, let the men stay home, not the women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Irish activist and Social Democrat politician Linda Hayden now being outed on Twitter for tweeting some of the most vile racism you're likely to see.
    LOL


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Irish activist and Social Democrat politician Linda Hayden now being outed on Twitter for tweeting some of the most vile racism you're likely to see.

    I just had a look. Holy ****. I don't really agree with canceling people but for once I can see why people are getting annoyed.

    What a scumbag.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    LOL

    Black people, Travellers and Romanians were targeted by her on Twitter, and that's just from a cursory glance. She has deleted her account.

    There are also victims of sexual assault who spoke to her through her advocacy group that claim she deleted valuable evidence and also went to the Gardai on their behalf without their consent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Black people, Travellers and Romanians were targeted by her on Twitter, and that's just from a cursory glance. She has deleted her account.

    Wasn't she helping with that case relating to that guy who was attacked a few years back and retold his truth a few times on the TV and Radio.... don't really remember him... he seemed to just get cancelled .... could the appearance of her previous tweets be due to this?

    the cancel mob are out aren't they!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,549 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    It's always the ones who wring their hands and scream about injustice.

    The rest of us just get on with being normal, decent people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    Elmo wrote: »
    Wasn't she helping with that case relating to that guy who was attacked a few years back and retold his truth a few times on the TV and Radio.... don't really remember him... he seemed to just get cancelled .... could the appearance of her previous tweets be due to this?

    the cancel mob are out aren't they!

    Right wing groups are being blamed for the emergence of the old tweets, and there was an initial drive to accept her explanation that she wasn't the same person back then (she was in her 30s, old enough to know better) but people from the groups she targeted are understandably not accepting of that explanation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Black people, Travellers and Romanians were targeted by her on Twitter, and that's just from a cursory glance. She has deleted her account.

    There are also victims of sexual assault who spoke to her through her advocacy group that claim she deleted valuable evidence and also went to the Gardai on their behalf without their consent.
    Jaysus.
    i did hear she was branding anyone who failed to lick her arse as rape apologists recently.
    Also, the complete lying about and forced public apology to Ciara kelly involving rape.


    Cousin Imelda May, Ireland's Poet Woke-laureate, will I trust, be mortified.


    Beware of virtue signallers like Hayden and her ilk, mad ones like that (esp in pol parties or specialist groups in pol parties) are all about power over us mere mortal sinners.

    They give not one flying shíte about solutions for racism etc and are usually extremely racist themselves.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Right wing groups are being blamed for the emergence of the old tweets, and there was an initial drive to accept her explanation that she wasn't the same person back then (she was in her 30s, old enough to know better) but people from the groups she targeted are understandably not accepting of that explanation.

    Is that a new thing?

    Victim excusing perhaps?

    The person who portrays themselves as a victim expects to be innocent because people they don't like point out their ****tiness.

    Personally, **** I've done and said when I was younger don't reflect my actions and believes these days and I'd be appalled if I was judged on my actions over a decade ago.

    But if I lived my life calling out that **** and had no problem judging others, I do take a little satisfactory smirk to see these kind of people fall over themselves to apologise and make it worse


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    But if I lived my life calling out that **** and had no problem judging others, I do take a little satisfactory smirk to see these kind of people fall over themselves to apologise and make it worse

    This is the crux of it, we all make mistakes in life, but if you've being playing judge, jury and executioner on Twitter then it's only fair that you are held to your own standards. She did cross a line that most decent people don't cross. There are so many tweets of hers being shared that would have made me shudder even in 2014.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is the crux of it, we all make mistakes in life, but if you've being playing judge, jury and executioner on Twitter then it's only fair that you are held to your own standards. Having said that, she did cross a line that most decent people don't cross. There are so many tweets of hers being shared that would have made me shudder even in 2014.

    Her past tweets bother me in no way. It's her vitriolic hatred for people who hold views that she held and her willingness to call them out is what makes me smile.

    I'm friends with people who I am diametrically opposed to on many subjects. I don't want them to be shut down, they don't want me to be shut down

    But people who act like they are the morality police and sit on an altar of virtue... It's kinda nice to see them be taken down because they are what they hate.

    Her cack-handed apology obviously didn't work so her Twitter is gone. I recommend you YouTube her stand-up


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    I recommend you YouTube her stand-up

    I wish you hadn't!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I wish you hadn't!

    I had to see it.....

    It's like the ring. You need to forward it before it claims you


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Biafranlivemat


    They shouldn't be let near a classroom to spout their sick ideology to children and mess up their heads. I recently seen this crap in new york ,


    https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/ny-lawmaker-wants-sex-ed-for-kindergartners/

    Get ready for the latest woke wave in education: comprehensive sex ed for kids as young as 5 — thanks to a new bill in the state Senate.

    Legislation sponsored by state Sen. Samra G. Brouk, a freshman Democrat from Rochester, would tie New York’s health curriculum to standards written by a left-wing interest group that advocates “Sex Ed for Social Change” — and would make those lessons mandatory statewide.

    Under that group’s current standards, public and charter schools would have to teach 5-year-olds about “gender identity” and instruct 8-year-olds on hormone blockers to prevent puberty in transgender-identifying preteens.

    Kids as young as 11 would get lectures on “vaginal, oral, and anal sex”; study “queer, two-spirit, asexual, pansexual” and other gender identities; and receive explicit instruction on the use of external and internal condoms, dental dams and other contraceptives.


    Brouk told The Post, “I am greatly concerned about the unacceptably high incidence of relationship violence, sexual harassment and assault, and online bullying in our society today. We must equip the next generation with the skills and education they will need to thrive


    In olden days that would be called Grooming.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In olden days that would be called Grooming.

    I'm sure you are some sort of "phobe" for saying that now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    https://youtu.be/6RWJRzg0EOQ

    The best way to show someone the absurdity of their arguments is to use it against them ^^


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    biko wrote: »
    Speaking of New York schools

    The Grace Church School in Noho — which offers academic courses for junior kindergarten through 12th grade — issued a 12-page guide to students and staff explaining the school’s mission of inclusivity.

    The detailed guide recommends using the terms “grown-ups,” “folks,” “family” or “guardians” as alternatives to “mom,” “dad” and “parents.” It also suggests using “caregiver” instead of “nanny/babysitter.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/10/nyc-school-encourages-kids-to-stop-using-words-mom-dad/
    Bill Maher had Megan Kelly on his show talking about this recently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Daragh1980


    Digging up a person's old tweets has long been a tactic to undermine and cancel somebody. It's often used by those on the Left.
    Unfortunately one of Ireland's most woke ladies, somebody who has been at the forefront of many woke movements in the last three years suffered the same fate yesterday.

    You'll remember Linda Hayden from
    1/ Kildare South general election candidate 2020 for the Social Democrats
    2/ Organised the protest against Paddy Jackson in Cork back in 2019
    3/ Part of mean girls gang who were likely reason of causing Ciara Kelly to leave Twitter.

    Yesterday a series of shocking tweets emerged - racist, anti-traveller etc. They date from 7-10 years ago and don't read well. The excuse of youth cannot be used as she would have been 34 or so in 2011.

    Her twitter account is now deleted.

    More
    https://twitter.com/tobeebayb/status/1370017021082005510
    More
    https://twitter.com/ivyblonde3/status/1370086924208209928
    I know it's Gript but even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day
    https://gript.ie/social-democrat-election-candidate-apologizes-for-allegedly-racist-comments/

    This sums it up well
    https://twitter.com/newhandlehun/status/1370032125932621829


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Breakfast show on FM 104 this morning was quite the listen. They were advocating that there be an assimilation in some sports like tennis because the women are just as fierce powerful as the men. Serena would mop the floor with most men was what was said. In the next breath they couldn’t trip over themselves enough to say that men are privileged to be able to walk places alone.

    Seems they want women to be simultaneously indestructible beings and while simultaneously being agentless delicate flowers. This was one sentence after the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Serena would mop the floor with most men was what was said. In the next breath they couldn’t trip over themselves enough to say that men are privileged to be able to walk places alone.

    From Wiki:

    Another event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open[56] between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked outside the world's top 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centered around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple of bottles of ice cold lager".[57][56] The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park,[58] after Braasch had finished a round of golf and two shandies. He first took on Serena and after leading 5–0, beat her 6–1. Venus then walked on court and again Braasch was victorious, this time winning 6–2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,862 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Serena would mop the floor with most men was what was said

    Most men in the world, yes.
    Most professional male tennis players? Not a chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    Daragh1980 wrote: »

    Yesterday a series of shocking tweets emerged - racist, anti-traveller etc. They date from 7-10 years ago and don't read well. The excuse of youth cannot be used as she would have been 34 or so in 2011.

    Imagine being 34 and posting that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Breakfast show on FM 104 this morning was quite the listen. They were advocating that there be an assimilation in some sports like tennis because the women are just as fierce powerful as the men. Serena would mop the floor with most men was what was said. In the next breath they couldn’t trip over themselves enough to say that men are privileged to be able to walk places alone.

    Seems they want women to be simultaneously indestructible beings and while simultaneously being agentless delicate flowers. This was one sentence after the other.

    Back in 2012 (London Olympics) two modern woke liberal ladies I worked with cane out with something similar re. Katie Taylor, that she should be allowed to fight men. With a background in sports science I attempted to deconstruct their argument with logic, explaining that the speed and strength differences would not lead to a good outcome. But the ladies were not to be deterred and continued with this, dismissing my argument as being sexist in nature. It was “enlightening”.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    Imagine being 34 and posting that

    She's nothing but devious it seems.


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