Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

silverharp

Plants are racist

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1370346371027451904

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

ingalway wrote: »

Amazon says it is purging books that 'frame transgender identity as a mental illness'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9355449/Amazon-says-purging-books-frame-transgender-identity-mental-illness.html

I'm kinda with them on that one. For the same reason I'm against pray-away-the-gay 'therapy'.

Quantum Erasure

"We will move quickly to ‘decolonise’ our collections..."

native flora only, no invasive species allowed

Quantum Erasure

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Unbelievable

Context?

Danzy

Danzy wrote: »

This kind of thinking ends in bodies.

It's only a matter of time before a group like the Red Army Faction starts in America. Like the RAF in Germany it'll be rich kids and it won't be long till they are sorting Jews off to the side, like they RAF did in the plane hijacking with the Palestinians.

I don’t see Jews being particularly targeted by critical race theory, just included with other whites.

ingalway

ingalway wrote: »

Amazon says it is purging books that 'frame transgender identity as a mental illness'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9355449/Amazon-says-purging-books-frame-transgender-identity-mental-illness.html

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I'm kinda with them on that one. For the same reason I'm against pray-away-the-gay 'therapy'.

Well gender dysphoria it is listed as a disorder in Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) as are eating disorders, personality disorders, obsessive compulsive disorder, PTSD and many more. Should all books on those subjects be purged by Amazon also?

jam_mac_jam

ingalway wrote: »

Well gender dysphoria it is listed as a disorder in Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) as are eating disorders, personality disorders, obsessive compulsive disorder, PTSD and many more. Should all books on those subjects be purged by Amazon also?

Mein kampf is still there. ( not that it shouldn't be ). But interesting all the same.

Are bookshops only to sell books they agree with.

Rothko

retalivity wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/mar/12/sam-smith-gender-2021-brit-awards

This gimp wants his own category at the brit awards, as he was excluded from both male and female nominations at his own request

Even before I clicked on the link, I knew it would be Sam Smith.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

ingalway wrote: »

Well gender dysphoria it is listed as a disorder in Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) as are eating disorders, personality disorders, obsessive compulsive disorder, PTSD and many more. Should all books on those subjects be purged by Amazon also?

Firstly, the original quote was "frame transgender identity as a mental illness, while you're stated "gender dysphoria".

Secondly, there's a sligth difference in the conditions you compare it to.

With the publication of DSM–5 in 2013, “gender identity disorder” was eliminated and replaced with “gender dysphoria.” ]This change further focused the diagnosis on the gender identity-related distress that some transgender people experience (and for which they may seek psychiatric, medical, and surgical treatments) rather than on transgender individuals or identities themselves.

https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/cultural-competency/education/transgender-and-gender-nonconforming-patients/gender-dysphoria-diagnosis

So in asnwer to your question, no - because the treatments are completely different.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

keano_afc wrote: »

A man in a dress claiming to be a woman now has more rights than an actual woman.

Get ready, its coming to Ireland.

It’s already here! Self-ID was legal in this country before abortion was.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Snickers Man wrote: »

Where have you been?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0vw0AHsjFM

Very sensible response from McEnroe, relying on logic rather than fee fees.

It’s funny he didn’t mention it but serena Williams did lose to the 203rd ranked player in the world at the start of her career. Venus too.

https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html

(Also hasn’t the guardian changed).

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Deleted User wrote: »

It’s funny he didn’t mention it but serena Williams did lose to the 203rd ranked player in the world at the start of her career. Venus too.

https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html

(Also hasn’t the guardian changed).

I think McEnroe was being very polite here with the ranking he gave.

KungPao

Rothko wrote: »

Even before I clicked on the link, I knew it would be Sam Smith.

He's just a gay man. Not sure what his confusion is.

He's being fairly polite and what should be remembered is the hundreds of men who give up around the college level and thousands around high school because they'll never make a career. They'd beat any female at the same age but will never be good enough to make a career out of the men's game.

NIMAN

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Very sensible response from McEnroe, relying on logic rather than fee fees.

I love the bit where the presenter said to him, "so do you want to apologise".

Response, "ah, no".

He went up a lot in my estimation. Everyone falls over themselves to apologise these days.

Yeah_Right

NIMAN wrote: »

Well depends on what you wanna believe.

After Bolt, the next 9 fastest men ever in the world have all failed drugs tests.

So if you wanna believe Bolt was much faster than all those dopers, while being totally clean, then that's your call.

Arguments against this in the past have included "aye but the man is a beast", or "but he's 6ft 5". Ok so, that's proof?

And plenty of other of his fellow countrymen, some who run the 4 x 100m with him, have failed tests. You think his team mates would dope but he'd just say "na I'm grand ".

It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out he was juicing but you're missing the point. The fastest ever recorded time for a woman was by a (almost certain) drug cheat, with faulty wind readings. She also has the next best time. And that happened in 1988. No woman since has gone faster. Look at the men's times in 1988. Loads since have gone faster.

I sure that damn near everyone (of both genders) competing at the elite level in sprinting are have dabbled with PEDs. The fact is there is still a massive gap between men and women.

NIMAN

I'm not disputing that men and women are different, and shouldn'tt be compared when it comes to sporting ability.
Only a fool would try to argue that point.

I only got involved when a post made it sound like Bolt was clean. One of my pet hates.

Like how all Irish cyclists are clean too, it's only those others that dope.

Yeah_Right

NIMAN wrote: »

I'm not disputing that men and women are different, and shouldn'tt be compared when it comes to sporting ability.
Only a fool would try to argue that point.

I only got involved when a post made it sound like Bolt was clean. One of my pet hates.

Like how all Irish cyclists are clean too, it's only those others that dope.

I never said Bolt was definitely clean. I simply emphasized Flo-Jo being dirty because some people might not know a lot about women's track & field from the 80s.

Strumms

NIMAN wrote: »

I love the bit where the presenter said to him, "so do you want to apologise".

Response, "ah, no".

He went up a lot in my estimation. Everyone falls over themselves to apologise these days.

100%...An apology is an admission of wrong doing ... you don’t have to apologize for simply holding a view that some may find inaccurate, controversial or wrong...’an expression of remorse or regret’ is actually the definition of an apology.... fûck having to walk on eggshells around people and apologizing constantly to keep them and their egos and tempers in check.

MisterAnarchy

I came across this nonsense earlier.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9354141/American-Vogue-claims-word-niggling-Meghan-Markle-headline-racist-insult.html

American Vogue was yesterday branded absurd for suggesting the phrase 'a niggling worry' was racist towards Meghan Markle.
In its latest issue, long-standing Vogue writer Hamish Bowles, a 57-year-old Briton, states: 'In 2017, the Daily Mail, featuring Harry and Meghan's touching engagement picture on the front page, saw fit to run the headline from their columnist Sarah Vine: 'Yes, they're joyfully in love. 'So why do I have a niggling worry about this engagement picture?'

'Nevertheless, the word seemed a surprising choice and jumped from the page, as presumably it was intended to.

The disengeniousness of it .
All around me I see madness .
It seems every week its wave after wave of hysteria and overreaction by the woke mob.
Cynical people so desperate to prove wrong doing that they scour the media for proof of racism in order to cancel people.
These people are sick, even evil.

purifol0

Lets see whats in the paper of record today..."Irish feminists must avoid British trap of transphobia"

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/irish-feminists-must-avoid-british-trap-of-transphobia-1.4507862

Author Emer O’Toole "is associate professor of Irish performance studies at the school of Irish studies, Concordia University in Montreal"

Folks it would seem that Canadian college campuses are the epicenter of woke, guilt tripping us across the Atlantic courtesy of an utterly complicit media.

SeanW

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Key words there are "in the event of a crisis" - he knows full well said crisis will never happen so it's not something he'll have to worry about.

Yeah, sure, nothing to worry about. Just politicians openly calling for a male curfew in Parliament and other politicians (in this case in Wales) saying stuff like "well, it's not really on the top of our priority list but ..." Sure. Nothing to see here.

The fact that this is not being universally, categorically condemned in clear, unambiguous terms tells us something.

Omackeral wrote: »

Actually, “whyte” according to our dear “contributor” Mr Spiceland. Although, he declines to ever “elaborate” on why he chooses this spelling.

It could be like the US universities where there are no "women" only "womxyn" or "wymon" or something. Or how the mainstream media is tying itself in knots to justify writing Black with a capital B vs. white with a small w.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-capitalize-word-black_l_5f342ca1c5b6960c066faea5

purifol0

purifol0 wrote: »

Lets see whats in the paper of record today..."Irish feminists must avoid British trap of transphobia"

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/irish-feminists-must-avoid-british-trap-of-transphobia-1.4507862

Author Emer O’Toole "is associate professor of Irish performance studies at the school of Irish studies, Concordia University in Montreal"

Folks it would seem that Canadian college campuses are the epicenter of woke, guilt tripping us across the Atlantic courtesy of an utterly complicit media.

Yeh. Canada is particularly bad.

Potential-Monke

I look forward to the upcoming posts from the woke crowd in the coming week, what with International Irish Stereotype and Cultural Appropriation Day* coming up.

*Am I doing this right?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

purifol0 wrote: »

Lets see whats in the paper of record today..."Irish feminists must avoid British trap of transphobia"

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/irish-feminists-must-avoid-british-trap-of-transphobia-1.4507862

Author Emer O’Toole "is associate professor of Irish performance studies at the school of Irish studies, Concordia University in Montreal"

Folks it would seem that Canadian college campuses are the epicenter of woke, guilt tripping us across the Atlantic courtesy of an utterly complicit media.

The comment section is great though. A decisive pushback.

The writer is Irish though. She’s the wan who was on Good Morning about not shaving her legs a while back. I find it worse that she’s Irish. Talking down to her fellow countrywomen. The arrogance. Like we’re ninnies being lead astray by those awful British women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmBD8WZY4tw

ExMachina1000

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I look forward to the upcoming posts from the woke crowd in the coming week, what with International Irish Stereotype and Cultural Appropriation Day* coming up.

*Am I doing this right?

I think you have it spot on. Might be worth trying to kick up a stink on Twitter under some cultural appropriation hash tag for sh1ts and giggles

Mad_maxx

purifol0 wrote: »

Lets see whats in the paper of record today..."Irish feminists must avoid British trap of transphobia"

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/irish-feminists-must-avoid-british-trap-of-transphobia-1.4507862

Author Emer O’Toole "is associate professor of Irish performance studies at the school of Irish studies, Concordia University in Montreal"

Folks it would seem that Canadian college campuses are the epicenter of woke, guilt tripping us across the Atlantic courtesy of an utterly complicit media.

What the hell is " Irish performance studies " ?

At least the Canadian tax payer is funding that idiots salary

ExMachina1000

Bit closer to home today

https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1192026012021862402?s=20

Invidious

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeh. Canada is particularly bad.

Jordan Peterson is Canadian, and the insanity he has had to deal with on his campus, from students and administrators alike, is off the charts.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

SeanW wrote: »

Yeah, sure, nothing to worry about. Just politicians openly calling for a male curfew in Parliament and other politicians (in this case in Wales) saying stuff like "well, it's not really on the top of our priority list but ..." Sure. Nothing to see here.

The fact that this is not being universally, categorically condemned in clear, unambiguous terms tells us something.

It could be like the US universities where there are no "women" only "womxyn" or "wymon" or something. Or how the mainstream media is tying itself in knots to justify writing Black with a capital B vs. white with a small w.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-capitalize-word-black_l_5f342ca1c5b6960c066faea5

Tell me, are you saying that everything a ad o called 'woke' politician says is seriously taken by politicians?

Sir Oxman

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

The comment section is great though. A decisive pushback.

The writer is Irish though. She’s the wan who was on Good Morning about not shaving her legs a while back. I find it worse that she’s Irish. Talking down to her fellow countrywomen. The arrogance. Like we’re ninnies being lead astray by those awful British women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmBD8WZY4tw

It's yet another media article attacking any attempt, in this case by women, to organise and offer a differing viewpoint to what are now, very much establishment women's organisations.
The LGB Alliance is another one - the vilification with zero evidence campaign extends from Amnesty Ireland through some unions to the myriad established lobbyist NGOs and even this venerable site.
I welcome Emer's opinion article (its utter 'dogwhistling' and incoherence is apparent to the vast majority reading it) and await with no holding of breath, an alternate viewpoint to be published in the IT - preferrably an article with some evidence at least being proffered and not the usual zero evidence of the accusations this writer makes.
Xenophobia is also not cool but is apparently acceptable on this and only this subject.
I don't think the public are getting the full story at all and that is not good for our democracy.

SeanW

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Tell me, are you saying that everything a ad o called 'woke' politician says is seriously taken by politicians?

Not sure what you're getting at here. The two people pushing/ambivalent about the "lock up men after 6PM" stuff are both high ranking politicians.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

SeanW wrote: »

Not sure what you're getting at here. The two people pushing/ambivalent about the "lock up men after 6PM" stuff are both high ranking politicians.

Really? It's not even being take nseriously by the person who suggested it.

Baroness Jenny Jones of Moulescoomb told Sky News that the idea was "not an entirely serious suggestion" and is not party policy.

https://news.sky.com/story/sarah-everard-baroness-who-suggested-6pm-curfew-for-men-says-she-wanted-to-make-a-point-12243462

This is a case of your judement being clouded by wanting something to be true just to prove a confirmation bias. You've been counter-woked.

Mad_maxx

Sir Oxman wrote: »

It's yet another media article attacking any attempt, in this case by women, to organise and offer a differing viewpoint to what are now, very much establishment women's organisations.
The LGB Alliance is another one - the vilification with zero evidence campaign extends from Amnesty Ireland through some unions to the myriad established lobbyist NGOs and even this venerable site.
I welcome Emer's opinion article (its utter 'dogwhistling' and incoherence is apparent to the vast majority reading it) and await with no holding of breath, an alternate viewpoint to be published in the IT - preferrably an article with some evidence at least being proffered and not the usual zero evidence of the accusations this writer makes.
Xenophobia is also not cool but is apparently acceptable on this and only this subject.
I don't think the public are getting the full story at all and that is not good for our democracy.

i remember her being interviewed on the Ray Darcy radio show a few years ago , D,arcy washed her feet while she let loose about patriarchy

Wibbs

Ray Darcy, that's all you needed to type. He's a near caricature of the "woke" mentality.

ExMachina1000

Wibbs wrote: »

Ray Darcy, that's all you needed to type. He's a near caricature of the "woke" mentality.

The definition of capitulation is Ray Darcy.

Daragh1980

Good summary thread of the Linda Hayden situation here.

https://twitter.com/tobeebayb/status/1370527215633448961

ThunbergsAreGo

Daragh1980 wrote: »

Good summary thread of the Linda Hayden situation here.

https://twitter.com/tobeebayb/status/1370527215633448961

Could have sworn that account was posting racist (or anti white) comments themselves a few months ago...

Its going to eat itself soon

Rodin

It appears there are posts being deleted in this thread.

Sir Oxman

Ray DArcy on one single day last week or week before.
His opening nonsense, almost always dedicated about what soup or porridge he likes, was out of the blue dedicated to informing the listeners that the UK census this month had extra questions asking people voluntarily to state their gender identity and that our census was coming up next year and sure why not.
He didn't mention that there was a UK High Court judicial review brought by women and crowdfunded that challenged the sex question as dictated by Stonewall and it's subordinate satellite orgs. Yet again, the political lobbyist company Stonewall (the parent British org of their Irish conterparts but that's okay cos rightside, ya know) led the way in successfully persuading ONS UK (Office of NAtional Statistics) in obfuscating it to allow people to basically self identify their answer when the original phrasing took the current legalities of birth certificates and GRC certificates (approx 5000) into account. Self ID is not the legal position in the UK and that is what you hear when ideologists shout 'trans rights are being reversed' when multiple court cases expose the influence dangerous NGO lobbyists have done. In this case, they could do this because they successfully got expert data scientists (interested in the veracity of data) excluded from the expert panels due to 'possibility of upset' to trans people.
He wrapped up that little bit of wokery by announcing this just came to him from reading something and nobody had been in his ear about it - a sort of 'I just thought that was nice vibe with us having a census next year and all', leaving out that a national, should-be-independent service that is key to planning for a country comprising at minimum 33 million women allowed itself to be ideologically compromised in framing a crucial question. <--that's the story
This was bookmarked by yet another pro-govt proposal on housing within 16 weeks for everyone who arrives here claiming asylum status with an applicant from S Africa (seriously listen to her tale despite being led by the hand by DArcy she tripped up a lot) and another asylum NGO spokesperson.
Speech #1 - not mentioning at all the illegality of a basic question highlighted by ordinary women
Speech #2 - no one to offer a different viewpoint (As ALL RTE programs did that day)

Bit by bit, nothing to see here.

Sir Oxman

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Could have sworn that account was posting racist (or anti white) comments themselves a few months ago...

Its going to eat itself soon

This is correct.

Sir Oxman

Rodin wrote: »

It appears there are posts being deleted in this thread.

And elsewhere with not a note, nothing.

1800_Ladladlad

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Could have sworn that account was posting racist (or anti white) comments themselves a few months ago...

Its going to eat itself soon

I notice that as well on a lot of these activist accounts on Twitter. The likes must work wonders for their self esteem.

Necro

Mod:

Folks if you have an issue with a post being deleted the best thing you can do is PM a forum mod to discuss it with them, don't derail the thread whinging about it because that's only going to get you sanctioned.

Rodin

Necro wrote: »

Mod:

Folks if you have an issue with a post being deleted the best thing you can do is PM a forum mod to discuss it with them, don't derail the thread whinging about it because that's only going to get you sanctioned.

Are posts being deleted then?
What is the policy on deleting posts?

Necro

Rodin wrote: »

Are posts being deleted then?
What is the policy on deleting posts?

I don't usually do this but I took a look at the log for the thread and I can only see one post deleted today by the forum mods.

Posts are removed on a regular basis of the re-reg nuisances we don't give oxygen to but in general there wouldn't be many posts by normal users deleted, unless they're responding to said re-regs.

Ash.J.Williams

This minute on Twitter everyone is cancelling everyone so mathematically we can just brush them all side and go back to the good times

Ash.J.Williams

Wibbs wrote: »

Ray Darcy, that's all you needed to type. He's a near caricature of the "woke" mentality.

He interviewed jarleth regan , Ireland’s feminist comedian (impossible I know) once and he made ray look like Bernard manning even told ray he was part of the problem

Rodin

Necro wrote: »

I don't usually do this but I took a look at the log for the thread and I can only see one post deleted today by the forum mods.

Posts are removed on a regular basis of the re-reg nuisances we don't give oxygen to but in general there wouldn't be many posts by normal users deleted, unless they're responding to said re-regs.

I think mine was removed because the mod didn't like the truth I was telling.