Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

IAMAMORON

Deleted User wrote: »

Thinly veiled accusations of racism where none exists? Now that's woke.

I am entitled to call it out where I see it.

Thanks for clarifying my initial suspicions however, it seems like I was being correct... regrettably.

There is a difference between sniggering at woke statements in multimedia and downright criticism at someone being awarded a course at a university. That is all I am pointing out.

At least have the honesty to express how you honestly feel, everyone deserves it.

AllForIt

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I am entitled to call it out where I see it.

Thanks for clarifying my initial suspicions however, it seems like I was being correct... regrettably.

There is a difference between sniggering at woke statements in multimedia and downright criticism at someone being awarded a course at a university. That is all I am pointing out.

At least have the honesty to express how you honestly feel, everyone deserves it.

I get you. But when you look at the whole story from start to finish I still find it a bit Wokey. At least the way RTE and the media promote this guy as a kinda celeb. If they didn't we wouldn't know as much about him as we do. It's kinda like the Woke media promote this guy to see who will react so they can prove something, or they are using him as a poster boy to promote the necessity of the asylum system, like they did with that Muslim family, one of whom ended up with a degree in medicine last year.

You get the feeling from those type of people that they would rather have an asylum system, I mean a need for it at all in the first place than have no necessity for it. Just to show how welcoming and open minded and emphatic they are, angles of human beings, never thinking of themselves in any way, putting the needs of the needy always first. Living saints.

Strumms

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Begrudgery personified.

I say fair phucks to him. No one else has any notion of what Buleni McFaco has been through in his life. As it stands he has made a successful application to take part in a PhD which he patently has some first hand experience of. I think it is a win for him and a win for the university. How many asylum seekers are in a position to carry out such a study?

There are lots of wishy washy courses that get orchestrated at PhD level. They exist and it is what academia is about. Universities have budgets - he obviously fits into theirs. The concept that his study is somehow going to be a burden on the Irish taxpayer is complete garbage in the grand scale of things. The argument that his study is futile is a different debate, but begrudging him his future is not fair. He made the application, he gets the course. After that you can kiss his South African ass, it probably deserves it.

Speculating on what he might do when his studies are finished is frankly none of anyone else's business. The system is there, he is entitled to play it as he sees fit. No one is entitled to pass judgement on how he gets on, why does anyone care less, it is his future, his life and his PhD?

To clarify - his application for asylum has not been accepted, so anyone barking up the wrong tree on that matter need to check themselves I think? There is no point speculating on LGTBQ rights in South Africa in the meantime. Somebody somewhere in Irish Emmigration gave him a chance, I don't get what is " woke " about that.

People are entitled to pass judgment on it. It’s a democracy.

It’s a win for him, for sure.

For the university ? Why ? How ?

It’s a loss loss for the Irish taxpayers who might want, qualify and need a place on that course to enable and enact their goals, having contributed via taxes even in a minute way to the running of said university. Which is more than can be said for the ‘successful applicant’.... who is again somebody who despite not having put it, wants to take a lot out... and away from Irish taxpayers..

Biker79

AllForIt wrote: »

You get the feeling from those type of people that they would rather have an asylum system, I mean a need for it at all in the first place than have no necessity for it. Just to show how welcoming and open-minded and emphatic they are, angles of human beings, never thinking of themselves in any way, putting the needs of the needy always first. Living saints.

Which is all well and good but ignoring the increasingly serious social problems in Ireland, such as urban addictions/ homelessness, traveller issues...along with woke HR departments choosing to interview south Asians and Brazilians to tick some diversity boxes ( at the expense of nationals) ....do they not experience loyalty to their own countrymen and their problems?

That's the very strange thing about woke virtue signalling and immigration. A conspicuous lack of empathy for their own countrymen.

randd1

Cordell wrote: »

Anyone remembers that time when PhDs actually meant something, when they involved real research and advancements in their academic filed?

They changed it to suit the social "sciences".

You know, those degrees (the vast majority of them obtained by women) that rely on the government to provide jobs for them as they don't really offer anything in the real world, who then complain about lower wages and a patriarchy holding them.

IAMAMORON

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I am entitled to call it out where I see it.

Thanks for clarifying my initial suspicions however, it seems like I was being correct... regrettably.

There is a difference between sniggering at woke statements in multimedia and downright criticism at someone being awarded a course at a university. That is all I am pointing out.

At least have the honesty to express how you honestly feel, everyone deserves it.

So which posters specifically, are you calling racist?

At least have the honesty to express how you feel about specific posters. They deserve it.

IAMAMORON

Strumms wrote: »

People are entitled to pass judgment on it. It’s a democracy.

It’s a win for him, for sure.

For the university ? Why ? How ?

It’s a loss loss for the Irish taxpayers who might want, qualify and need a place on that course to enable and enact their goals, having contributed via taxes even in a minute way to the running of said university. Which is more than can be said for the ‘successful applicant’.... who is again somebody who despite not having put it, wants to take a lot out... and away from Irish taxpayers..

The university will get the opportunity to work and study directly with a foreign national seeking aslyum here in Ireland. It is a fantastic opportunity to both understand and reconcile with our current system of asylum from an academic viewpoint. I could pontificate further. Genuinely it is a great opportunity for the university to mentor an asylum seeker and to gather an understanding of what happens. There is a benefit in that.

I said it earlier the concept that it is somehow a burden on the Irish Taxpayer is extremely tenuous. That university has x amount of budget to spend on a student at their want and desire, the money is going to get spent somewhere. It is the objection to their selection that I frankly find most disconcerting.

Irish Taxpayers will be paying tax long after his PhD is finished, however the university will have the benefit of examining his thesis.

IAMAMORON

AllForIt wrote: »

I get you. But when you look at the whole story from start to finish I still find it a bit Wokey. At least the way RTE and the media promote this guy as a kinda celeb. If they didn't we wouldn't know as much about him as we do. It's kinda like the Woke media promote this guy to see who will react so they can prove something, or they are using him as a poster boy to promote the necessity of the asylum system, like they did with that Muslim family, one of whom ended up with a degree in medicine last year.

You get the feeling from those type of people that they would rather have an asylum system, I mean a need for it at all in the first place than have no necessity for it. Just to show how welcoming and open minded and emphatic they are, angles of human beings, never thinking of themselves in any way, putting the needs of the needy always first. Living saints.

Massively agreed, RTE adoption of the current woke items is excruciating. But that is what needs to be getting called out.

That upstart on the Tommy Tiernan show last week had me seething - piss takers need to called out. But there is a difference that needs to be respected also.

As I alluded to earlier, maybe Mr Mfaco is an imposter? But that is his business and his PhD. Not anyone elses'? Certainly assuming his intentions are insincere is the job of both his new university and Irish immigration. Not marginally racist posters around here griping away at foreign nationals getting a break for a change. I would like to see some of them live in a shed in Butlins for 30 months?

I just realised I have been calling him McFaco there as opposed to Mfaro ... how embarrassing.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55765516

“The Twitter account of Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has posted what appears to be a call for an attack on Donald Trump in revenge for last year's killing of its top military commander.”

EmmetSpiceland

Biker79 wrote: »

Begrudging someone a PHD in grievance studies. So much woke there it's hard to measure.

Where's "Emma"? She (her/it/cis etc ) will be able to untangle this one.

Well, now you are just being “uncivil”.

CarProblem

cdeb wrote: »

Why do you put so many "words" in inverted "commas"?

I "always" assumed "Emmet" was taking "the piss", because the alternative is............fucking hell :eek:

cdeb

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55765516

“The Twitter account of Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has posted what appears to be a call for an attack on Donald Trump in revenge for last year's killing of its top military commander.”

This time last year, Iran-US tensions led to talk of World War III.

You think a re-opening of that scar is woke?

Bloody heck.

EmmetSpiceland

cdeb wrote: »

This time last year, Iran-US tensions led to talk of World War III.

You think a re-opening of that scar is woke?

Bloody heck.

Apologies, C. Nothing “woke” about that.

Here’s the story I meant to link:

https://www.thejournal.ie/iran-khamenei-twitter-threat-trump-5332733-Jan2021/

“TWITTER HAS SUSPENDED the account of Iran’s Supreme leader after his office posted a photomontage of former US President Donald Trump playing golf under the shadow of a warplane alongside a pledge to avenge a deadly 2020 drone strike he ordered.”

cdeb

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Apologies, C. Nothing “woke” about that.

Here’s the story I meant to link:

https://www.thejournal.ie/iran-khamenei-twitter-threat-trump-5332733-Jan2021/

“TWITTER HAS SUSPENDED the account of Iran’s Supreme leader after his office posted a photomontage of former US President Donald Trump playing golf under the shadow of a warplane alongside a pledge to avenge a deadly 2020 drone strike he ordered.”

I mean - that's the same story...

EmmetSpiceland

cdeb wrote: »

I mean - that's the same story...

Well, the BBC is more about the actual threat that was “posted”. Whereas TheJournal comes at it from the suspending account angle, which is pretty “woke”, right?

cdeb

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Well, the BBC is more about the actual threat that was “posted”. Whereas TheJournal comes at it from the suspending account angle, which is pretty “woke”, right?

No.

I'm not sure how you're coming to that conclusion tbh

EmmetSpiceland

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Well, the BBC is more about the actual threat that was “posted”. Whereas TheJournal comes at it from the suspending account angle, which is pretty “woke”, right?

Not "even" remotely.

IAMAMORON

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Well, the BBC is more about the actual threat that was “posted”. Whereas TheJournal comes at it from the suspending account angle, which is pretty “woke”, right?

Not sure how woke it is Spice?

The only thing I garnered peculiar about the tweet is that there was no actual reference to Donald Trump and yet the BBC have implied that there was?

انتقام حتمی است

قاتل سلیمانی و آمر به قتل سلیمانی باید انتقامشان را پس بدهند.
اگر چه کفش پای سلیمانی هم بر سرِ قاتل او شرف دارد؛ اما بالاخره غلطی کردند، بایستی #انتقام پس بدهند؛ #هم_آمر_هم_قاتل بدانند که در هر زمان ممکن باید انتقامشان را پس بدهند.
۱۳۹۹/۰۹/۲۶ pic.twitter.com/i2DYpPSBhw

— KHAMENEI.IR‎ | سایت (@khamenei_site) January 21, 2021

Translation

Vengeance is inevitable

Soleimani's murderer and the commander of Soleimani's murder must return their revenge.
Although Soleimani's foot shoe is honored #انتقام #هم_آمر_هم_قاتل murderer, they finally made a wrong statement.
2020/12/16 pic.twitter.com/i2DYpPSBhw

— KHAMENEI. IR‎ | Site (@khamenei_site) January 21, 2021#

I mean Trump is done now, I respect that outragers are going to be stuck with slim pickings for a while, but the BBC inferring that the Iranian Supreme Leader is posting Fatwa's that mightn't exist is slightly more worrying. It looks like the Hawks are sharpening their knives already.

Disturbing state sponsored propaganda maybe, but not sure how woke it is.

EmmetSpiceland

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Disturbing state sponsored propaganda maybe, but not sure how woke it is.

They suspended his account, I. Isn’t that “woke”, in itself? Censoring free speech. When it happens to Trump it’s all part of a big liberal, leftie, wokie, “agenda”.

What’s sauce for the goose, and all that.

IAMAMORON

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

They suspended his account, I. Isn’t that “woke”, in itself? Censoring free speech. When it happens to Trump it’s all part of a big liberal, leftie, wokie, “agenda”.

What’s sauce for the goose, and all that.

You would need to ask the good moderators of Twitter. But certainly I have an objection to people declaring revenge/murder over social media - not good.

As I said the issue for me is more how they got Trump into the Tweet? From the translation above there is no mention of him.

Twitter is garbage anyway, Boards is where all the real speech is.

Watch that space, the Hawks are gagging to get their hands on Iran. They would love a big dirty war there.

EmmetSpiceland

IAMAMORON wrote: »

As I said the issue for me is more how they got Trump into the Tweet? From the translation above there is no mention of him.

They attached this picture with the tweet, I.



Looks a bit like Trump but he may have selected “Power Drive” when he should be putting with “feather touch”.

IAMAMORON

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

They attached this picture with the tweet, I.



Looks a bit like Trump but he may have selected “Power Drive” when he should be putting with “feather touch”.

Looks like John Daly to me?

Highly doctored image anyways. Fancy getting a photo of a golfer with an image not unlike a Game of Thrones dragon doing an impression of a Stealth bomber? Flying over Donald Trump .... nope.

partyguinness

I am really going to have to sit down and learn about this term 'woke-ism'. I have seen it floating around a lot in the past 12 months or so but never really paid much attention.

Seemed to be just angry youngsters which didn't interest me but I am open minded so off swotting for the weekend I go.

46 Long

Deleted User wrote: »

Your type often do find things like that "ironic".

People going onto a forum to discuss and lampoon idiots who subscribe to "wokeness" and to vent our frustration at "feelings" mattering ahead of facts, may come across as bitching and moaning to people who expect to be referred to as whatever pronoun they "prefer".

Its not.

What is "ironic" is you accusing others of bitching and moaning.

I am reasonably certain that Emmet is a satire/parody account. A more subtle Paddygreen.

ingalway

All the President's Men/Women/They/Them...

ingalway

ingalway wrote: »

All the President's Men/Women/They/Them...

"scientists all over the world agree that what we are assigned at birth means nothing?"

Um. Really? The mind boggles.

Gruffalux

Deleted User wrote: »

"scientists all over the world agree that what we are assigned at birth means nothing?"

Um. Really? The mind boggles.

I think the use of ''there four'' instead of therefore says it all really.

ingalway

Gruffalux wrote: »

I think the use of ''there four'' instead of therefore says it all really.

Terrible spelling/grammar aside the problem is that Biden/Harris are jumping on this bandwagon to bring in the woke brigade.

Gruffalux

ingalway wrote: »

Terrible spelling/grammar aside the problem is that Biden/Harris are jumping on this bandwagon to bring in the woke brigade.

They have already passed laws to allow women's sports be trashed. etc.
But what they will find is that they can never do enough. There is no end to the demands of deconstruction.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

ingalway wrote: »

All the President's Men/Women/They/Them...

Definite parody. I had tears of laughter reading that.