Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

ArrBee

So, anyway.....

I've been really lax at keeping up with Southpark and have just started catching up on the last few years.
1st episode of season 19 is great. and is probably worth a rewatch for it's take on the current wave of PC.
I think it was broadcast 5 years ago?

Biker79

French political and social leaders are concerned that American Woke ideologies are an attack on French values, institutions and heritage.

France is beacon of traditional left values...so thats a very interesting development. Just in case some people still think woke ideologies are harmless nonsense. ..France begs to differ. ( in the NY Times as well...)

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/world/europe/france-threat-american-universities.html

JeffreyEpspeen

ArrBee wrote: »

So, anyway.....

I've been really lax at keeping up with Southpark and have just started catching up on the last few years.
1st episode of season 19 is great. and is probably worth a rewatch for it's take on the current wave of PC.
I think it was broadcast 5 years ago?

I watched a random newer episode of South Park a while ago and it wasn't outwardly bad so much as it was boring, which is even worse. It's lost all the spark of the good old days and they're clearly coasting at this stage. I'd question how much of it is even their baby right now.

JeffreyEpspeen

https://www.thejournal.ie/springsteen-driving-5351176-Feb2021/

"The news of his arrest comes just days after Springsteen starred in his first TV ad for Jeep urging for unity in America."

You couldn't make it up.

Kermit.de.frog

I saw a girl eating a Yorkie bar today

I'm frightened

silverharp

if cancel culture is woke, then belongs here, the irony is delish, guy says there is no cancel culture, gets fired by the Guardian for a tweet

https://twitter.com/AndreasShrugged/status/1359639096742842369

jam_mac_jam

People who say there is no cancel culture make me irrationality angry. It's just lying right to my face. How can you even argue with it.

If you are going to do something at least admit to it. Stop lying all the time.

Sir Oxman

Biker79 wrote: »

French political and social leaders are concerned that American Woke ideologies are an attack on French values, institutions and heritage.

France is beacon of traditional left values...so thats a very interesting development. Just in case some people still think woke ideologies are harmless nonsense. ..France begs to differ. ( in the NY Times as well...)

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/world/europe/france-threat-american-universities.html

And of course, the lunatic ideology today is the modified chucky child of 60's French postmodernism.
Even the French can see what a load of Anglocentric dangerous wánk it is today!

https://twitter.com/gizmodo/status/1359701272409047041

stefanovich

Sir Oxman wrote: »

And of course, the lunatic ideology today is the modified chucky child of 60's French postmodernism.
Even the French can see what a load of Anglocentric dangerous wánk it is today!

It’d be quite complicated to rework the French language to be gender neutral.

Mike Murdock

Count Basie wrote: »

Joss Whedon has been accused of being abusive by a Buffy actress. He's about to be cancelled.

Let this be a lesson to male feminists everywhere, simping won't save you.

Never trust a man that openly christens himself a Male Feminist.

Mike Murdock

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Never trust a man that openly christens himself a Male Feminist.

Yup. Just call yourself a feminist. I don't see many people calling themselves female feminists.

I know quite a few guys who would be feminists. Proper feminists, as opposed to this modern radical feminism crap. They're not simping or looking for attention. It's just what they believe in, which is grand.

Whereas I'm more of an egalitarian (although I'm aware of the problems/limitations with that viewpoint too)

conorhal

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Never trust a man that openly christens himself a Male Feminist.

As soon as you hear 'I'm a male feminist and ally of women' you can pretty much start the countdown to a #meetoo moment....

stefanovich

conorhal wrote: »

As soon as you hear 'I'm a male feminist and ally of women' you can pretty much start the countdown to a #meetoo moment....

I wonder do tactics like this actually have success? How often does your average male feminist get laid?

Quazzie

LINK

"A hospital trust has become the first in the UK to adopt gender inclusive language for its perinatal services, including referring to "breast/chestfeeding" and "human milk".

No matter how much I tried to chestfeed my son, it appears only my wife could do it as she was the one with breasts. I didn't realise it was possible to get milk from a chest.

1800_Ladladlad

Quazzie wrote: »

LINK



No matter how much I tried to chestfeed my son, it appears only my wife could do it as she was the one with breasts. I didn't realise it was possible to get milk from a chest.

Other changes include referring to the "co-parent" or "second biological parent".

As in the Father ..... It's the end of the world as we know it.

Mike Murdock

conorhal wrote: »

As soon as you hear 'I'm a male feminist and ally of women' you can pretty much start the countdown to a #meetoo moment....

Example: The King of Woke World Leaders: Justin Trudeau

The editorial asked: "Shouldn't the son of a former prime minister be aware of the rights and wrongs that go along with public socialising? Didn't he learn, through his vast experiences in public life, that groping a strange young woman isn't in the handbook of proper etiquette, regardless of who she is, what her business is or where they are?'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/justin-trudeau-canada-sexual-harassment-female-reporter-creston-british-columbia-a8428201.html

WrenBoy

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

As in the Father ..... It's the end of the world as we know it.

"Happy anniversary of Emergence offspring! "

"Thank you, second biological parent"

jam_mac_jam

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

People who say there is no cancel culture make me irrationality angry. It's just lying right to my face. How can you even argue with it.

If you are going to do something at least admit to it. Stop lying all the time.

It's like how the SJW types call those who believe white people will be outnumbered in the US or London in the future "paranoid" and "deranged" and pour scorn and condescension on them.

Then you read news articles after every Census that celebrates the "browning of America" and featuring all demographic projections that prove that whites will be a minority in 10/20 years (whatever it is).

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I saw a girl eating a Yorkie bar today

I'm frightened

I'm hungry. Mmmmm Yorkie........

Invidious

Deleted User wrote: »

I know quite a few guys who would be feminists. Proper feminists, as opposed to this modern radical feminism crap. They're not simping or looking for attention. It's just what they believe in, which is grand.

I'm happy to support women's rights where needed, as they definitely still are in many parts of the world. Honor killings? Female genital mutilation? Forced marriage? Denying education to girls or the vote to women? Sure, count me in as opposing such practices on humanitarian grounds.

But nobody could convince me that women in a modern Western country like Ireland are "oppressed by the patriarchy." The only reason these claims continue is that many women are making a good living perpetuating such nonsense via academia or through NGOs. Modern feminism has become a lucrative cottage industry, but its claims have little basis in lived reality when it comes to the West. When you see the Guardian publishing women's rights pieces like "Is it legal for your boss to make you wear a bra to work?" then you know the bottom of the barrel is being scraped.

MisterAnarchy

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gizmodo/status/1359701272409047041

Abhorrent, unacceptable and anti semitic comments it seems

Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views,” she wrote.

There is nothing wrong with calling Trump a Nazi though or all his supporters racist white supremacists

randd1

Invidious wrote: »

I'm happy to support women's rights where needed, as they definitely still are in many parts of the world. Honor killings? Female genital mutilation? Forced marriage? Denying education to girls or the vote to women? Sure, count me in as opposing such practices on humanitarian grounds.

But nobody could convince me that women in a modern Western country like Ireland are "oppressed by the patriarchy." The only reason these claims continue is that many women are making a good living perpetuating such nonsense via academia or through NGOs. Modern feminism has become a lucrative cottage industry, but its claims have little basis in lived reality when it comes to a country like Ireland.

Quite the opposite in some cases in fact. In many ways modern society is set up for women.

- Most public sector jobs are filled by women because of the benefits it offers in regards to family life.
- Most people doing social science course at third level are women and are encouraged to do them. However, these courses tend to need a public pay packet as most of the qualifications are useless in the private sector.
- Fathers are usually treated worse than the mothers by the authorities in matters around children.
- Men are likelier to do more time than women for the same criminal offence.

Most of the feminism/oppressed by the patriarchy nonsense of today is peddled by people who make money off of it.

I would also say most women are smart enough to ignore it for the crap talk it is. Any woman I know has no real time for it, mostly because when they get passed their college years and join the real world they learn to think for themselves, and realise blaming the patriarchy isn't going to keep a roof over your head or food in your belly. You can afford to think like that when Mammy and Daddy are picking up the bill.

Mike Murdock

Invidious wrote: »

I'm happy to support women's rights where needed, as they definitely still are in many parts of the world. Honor killings? Female genital mutilation? Forced marriage? Denying education to girls or the vote to women? Sure, count me in as opposing such practices on humanitarian grounds.

But nobody could convince me that women in a modern Western country like Ireland are "oppressed by the patriarchy." The only reason these claims continue is that many women are making a good living perpetuating such nonsense via academia or through NGOs. Modern feminism has become a lucrative cottage industry, but its claims have little basis in lived reality when it comes to the West. When you see the Guardian publishing women's rights pieces like "Is it legal for your boss to make you wear a bra to work?" then you know the bottom of the barrel is being scraped.

There are now more women than men working in Law, Medicine and Pharmacology. Professions traditionally dominated by men.

Patriarchy my ass.

And yet the grifters compare Ireland to ****ing Gilead...

RandRuns

randd1 wrote: »

Quite the opposite in some cases in fact. In many ways modern society is set up for women.

- Most public sector jobs are filled by women because of the benefits it offers in regards to family life.
- Most people doing social science course at third level are women and are encouraged to do them. However, these courses tend to need a public pay packet as most of the qualifications are useless in the private sector.
- Fathers are usually treated worse than the mothers by the authorities in matters around children.
- Men are likelier to do more time than women for the same criminal offence.

Most of the feminism/oppressed by the patriarchy nonsense of today is peddled by people who make money off of it.

I would also say most women are smart enough to ignore it for the crap talk it is. Any woman I know has no real time for it, mostly because when they get passed their college years and join the real world they learn to think for themselves, and realise blaming the patriarchy isn't going to keep a roof over your head or food in your belly. You can afford to think like that when Mammy and Daddy are picking up the bill.

I was at a meeting recently between a local authority, an engineering company, a main contractor, and some funders. All attendees would have been senior management and technical people.
Of the 12 people attending, 9 were women.

It's a similar story in most large engineering & construction projects at the upper management and engineering level.
Yet when you walk out on the site, all the hard manual jobs (with lower wages) are almost exclusively men.

Feminism has a blind spot when it comes to real equality - they will complain constantly that board rooms, engineers, managers, etc. still have a higher percentage of men (ignoring the percentage that are actually being appointed now), but they'll never complain about the lack of equality in building laborers, block layers, or plasterers.

Mike Murdock

RandRuns wrote: »

I was at a meeting recently between a local authority, an engineering company, a main contractor, and some funders. All attendees would have been senior management and technical people.
Of the 12 people attending, 9 were women.

It's a similar story in most large engineering & construction projects at the upper management and engineering level.
Yet when you walk out on the site, all the hard manual jobs (with lower wages) are almost exclusively men.

Feminism has a blind spot when it comes to real equality - they will complain constantly that board rooms, engineers, managers, etc. still have a higher percentage of men (ignoring the percentage that are actually being appointed now), but they'll never complain about the lack of equality in building laborers, block layers, or plasterers.

Feminism is now about Selective Equality.

MisterAnarchy

RandRuns wrote: »

It's a similar story in most large engineering & construction projects at the upper management and engineering level.
Yet when you walk out on the site, all the hard manual jobs (with lower wages) are almost exclusively men.

That goes someway towards explaining why most projects in this country run way over budget and behind schedule.

BattleCorp

I can't see any sense in the language used in the link below.

The hospital said "We are on a journey towards gender inclusive care for everybody during pregnancy, birth and afterwards." On a journey to stupidity more like.

No need to be inventing stupid terminology.

Birthing people = women
Chestfeeders = brest feeding = women

https://news.sky.com/story/hospital-trust-becomes-first-in-uk-to-adopt-gender-inclusive-language-for-perinatal-services-12214018

jam_mac_jam

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

That goes someway towards explaining why most projects in this country run way over budget and behind schedule.

You are undermining the point somewhat there that there is so sexism.

Mike Murdock

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

That goes someway towards explaining why most projects in this country run way over budget and behind schedule.

Projects in this country have been going way over budget and behind schedule for decades.

Nothing to do with Women - just collective bad strategic planning and the "It'll do" mentality of the country.