Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

Wibbs

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, it's the same as subsidiary companies in South Africa what were isolated from their corporate head offices during the apartheid era, they had to adapt or die.
I cannot see how their actions can be seen as political, quite likely, they were forced to comply with unsavoury rules in which they had no choice.

There were companies in the US and France and the UK to a lesser degree who had big contracts with the nazis before the war who removed Jews from more public positions to make them more amenable to the Germans. It wasn't just internally. It was to keep the greasy tills ringing. And again before the war Hitler got a lot of support from German and internationality owned companies within Germany because he was "good for business", effectively ended union interference and opened up the market.

A few didn't. A good example was the watch company Rolex. All the other Swiss watch brands were only too happy to supply the nazis and did so before and during the war. That is until the Germans started to run out of hard currency... Rolex alone refused to deal with them and supported the Allies from the get go and at a time when the outcome wasn't nearly so clear cut. After the war a few of the Swiss brands actively hunted down nazi supplied timepieces to destroy them to distance themselves from that stuff and they avoid discussing that period in their marketing even though a few have modern reissues of nazi designed watches. It sounds like a small thing these days, but before GPS and modern tech, timing and timepieces were incredibly important in the prosecution of war. To the degree that the Versailles treaty that restricted the Germans from building up their military also has specific restrictions around watches that could be used for military purposes. Hell the reason that men even wear wristwatches at all is because of WW1.

MisterAnarchy

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1364182863785168900

Bill Gates is funding this nonsense.

TP_CM

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2021/0223/1198751-harry-shearer-replaced-as-dr-hibbert-on-the-simpsons/

What absolute nonsense.

Zebra3

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

Coke Cola did a lot worse in the past.


Fanta was a German invention in 1940, made by Coca Cola.

Coke (US HQ) even made money from it.


During the Second World War, the US established a trade embargo against Germany—making the export of Coca-Cola syrup difficult.[2] To circumvent this, Max Keith, the head of Coca-Cola Deutschland (Coca-Cola GmbH), decided to create a new product for the German market, using only ingredients available in Germany at the time, including beet sugar, whey, and apple pomace—the "leftovers of leftovers", as Keith later recalled.[2][3] The name was the result of a brainstorming session, which started with Keith's exhorting his team to "use their imagination" (Fantasie in German), to which one of his salesmen, Joe Knipp, retorted "Fanta!".[3]
The plant was cut off from Coca-Cola headquarters following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. After the war, The Coca-Cola Company regained control of the plant, formula, and the trademarks to the new Fanta product—as well as the plant profits made during the war.:eek:

Not a patch on GM.

Supplied the German military.

Successfully sued the USG who bombed their German factories.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm

ingalway

https://twitter.com/TiffanyERoberts/status/1363196905560436736?s=20

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Actually, I disagree, because it gives the impression that big companies/businesses are above the petty inconveniences of morality. Which is why over the next few decades we saw the corruption and greed by western companies in Asia, Africa, and S.America. The simple trick of having your HQ in a western nation, while engaging in, essentially, slave labor in 3rd world countries, companies were allowed to bypass the morality that Western culture promoted as being so important.

By holding companies accountable for their choices (back then), it would have gone a long way towards establishing the belief that it was proper to regulate those industries, and perhaps have provided the basis for reining in the Big Pharma companies in the US, the dubious attitudes of Arms manufacturing/sales, or the internet Tech companies we have today.

This wouldn't have been about tracking down everyone who every associated themselves with the Nazis.. that's an extreme reaction to the post above. However, it would have meant that those who profited from the Nazi's would have been held to account for what they did...

Persuasive post. I've changed my mind. It's a Boards first. Congratulations.

biko

BBC for woke pipel
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin.amp

biko

biko wrote: »

BBC for woke pipel
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin.amp

As far as I know Pigin is an official language in some parts of the world.
Here is one of many examples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tok_Pisin

The version on the BBC page is an unofficial language in Nigeria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Pidgin

Not woke as it is a language spoken by people who have merged several local languages together with a spoonful (or bucket) of English.

silverharp

biko wrote: »

BBC for woke pipel
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin.amp

is this not cultural appropriation and colonization for clicks?

randd1

I can see in the near future a lot of young white men, and women, ending up in white pride groups, and such groups becoming mainstream. Young white kids are going to grow up being told that they are at fault for all the world's ills because of the skin colour they were born in. And that mentality is going to push them towards those groups.

And in the end, all these anti-racists groups who push the narrative that it's wrong to be white will succeed in doing is creating segregated societies based on skin colour, religion and ethnicity. in other words, a world defined by our appearances, rather than our humanity.

Quantum Erasure

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-merseyside-56154542

Merseyside Police has apologised for claiming "being offensive is an offence" as part of a campaign to encourage people to report hate crime.

It has since clarified that while hate crime is an offence, "being offensive is not in itself an offence".

Hang on, they printed this out and put it on a truck. how did they not know the actual law?

Ultrflat

Apparently woke : "I feel like"

Me " excuse me to cut you off, but your feelings are none of my business and the way your using them seems like a feeble attempt at emotional manipulation"

Apparently woke: **Silence**

46 Long

46 Long

46 Long wrote: »

Don’t have twitter but surely (you would hope) this is a bit of Poe’s law?

COVID

Batrachotox wrote: »

Don’t have twitter but surely (you would hope) this is a bit of Poe’s law?

Vegan / 3 year Long Covid sufferer / On furlough / Non-Binary (she/him) / Proffessional misconception challenger / Feminist / Netball enthusiast

whisky_galore

TP_CM wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2021/0223/1198751-harry-shearer-replaced-as-dr-hibbert-on-the-simpsons/

What absolute nonsense.

Who even watches it anymore? Just an appeal for relevance.

Rothko

46 Long wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that must be a parody.

Achebe

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

The whole idea of the left is supposed to be about class structure. That seems to be completely lost. Ten years ago organisations like occupy were talking about taxes and the one per cent.

That argument seems to have been completely abandoned. Nobody ever mentions anything to do with class any more.

The idea that a gay or black rich person is less privileged then a poor white person is an idea I cannot accept. And not really the reality.

Does racism and homophobia exist, yes. Are they massive problems that are systemic in all areas of society, well not really in Europe or the west. Your life is much more decided by what class you are born into.

Bernie Sanders talked about class conflict more than any major US presidential candidate in decades. Did you miss that?

Sir Oxman

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1363857958761881602

jam_mac_jam

Achebe wrote: »

Bernie Sanders talked about class conflict more than any major US presidential candidate in decades. Did you miss that?

No I didn't. I have loads of time for Bernie. They could do with a lot more like him.

Achebe

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

No I didn't. I have loads of time for Bernie. They could do with a lot more like him.

Well, his recent prominence goes against your entire thesis.

jam_mac_jam

Achebe wrote: »

Well, his recent prominence goes against your entire thesis.

Are you honestly arguing that the focus on the left hasn't moved away from class?

If anything it proves my point as he wasn't successfully chosen.

46 Long

Rothko wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that must be a parody.

Is there even a difference anymore?

Sir Oxman

46 Long wrote: »

Is there even a difference anymore?

Yep, Sonalee.
We'll do that so you can keep stuffing your cakehole with well, scrumptious cakes.
The unfunny thing is, she'll have plenty of enablers in all the right places.
Remember, 'being kind' means agreeing wholeheartedly with this person. Seriously.

Rodney Bathgate

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Yep, Sonalee.
We'll do that so you can keep stuffing your cakehole with well, scrumptious cakes.
The unfunny thing is, she'll have plenty of enablers in all the right places.
Remember, 'being kind' means agreeing wholeheartedly with this person. Seriously.

Male feminist are as bad as ‘feeders’.

Cordell

Rothko wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that must be a parody.

Anyone remembers that time when this wasn't even a question?

Sir Oxman

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Male feminist are as bad as ‘feeders’.

Standard advice to women is run a mile if a man tells you he's a feminist.
Run and don't look back

Rodney Bathgate

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Standard advice to women is run a mile if a man tells you he's a feminist.
Run and don't look back

Creeps.

Omackeral

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Standard advice to women is run a mile if a man tells you he's a feminist.
Run and don't look back

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Creeps.

Achebe

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Are you honestly arguing that the focus on the left hasn't moved away from class?

If anything it proves my point as he wasn't successfully chosen.

Yes, I am.

What candidate with such focus on class came anywhere near being chosen in 2012 or 2008? There were none. The 2008 democratic primary was a choice between Obama and Clinton, neither of whom are motivated by class politics.

Likewise, the British Labour Party went from people like Tony Blair to the far more class focused figure of Corbyn. He lost in the end, but the party became far more traditionally socialist under his leadership, all of was during the time frame you're talking about.

If you were going back decades, I would buy your argument, but talking about ten years ago as being a time when there was more focus on class politics makes no sense at all.