Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

Omackeral

Omackeral wrote: »

A friend got me a tshirt with that phrase on it for a laugh. Wore it when a group of us were in a European city (along with soccer shorts and long-ish socks) and got more female attention (kisses, photos) in that one day than the rest of my life combined. They didn't ask if I was wearing it for a joke. :P It's probably less effective now than it was then but I can't blame a guy for doing what it takes.

Achebe

Achebe wrote: »

Yes, I am.

What candidate with such focus on class came anywhere near being chosen in 2012 or 2008? There were none. The 2008 democratic primary was a choice between Obama and Clinton, neither of whom are motivated by class politics.

But Obama was very interested in identity politics... as was both Trump/Biden. It's no longer about class.. that's old hat. This is now about race, ethnicity, gender, age, etc.

Likewise, the British Labour Party went from people like Tony Blair to the far more class focused figure of Corbyn. He lost in the end, but the party became far more traditionally socialist under his leadership, all of was during the time frame you're talking about.

Britain is far more class conscious than the US, or most European countries.

If you were going back decades, I would buy your argument, but talking about ten years ago as being a time when there was more focus on class politics makes no sense at all.

Actually, it does, in a way, because identity politics hadn't gained as much traction outside of the US yet. That's changed now though..

randd1

Sir Oxman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1363857958761881602

Is this a parody account?

silverharp

randd1 wrote: »

Is this a parody account?

more a visionary account, parody today, factual in a year's time

jam_mac_jam

randd1 wrote: »

Is this a parody account?

Yes. It's run by a comedian Andrew Doyle.

Elmo

Deleted User wrote: »

But Obama was very interested in identity politics... as was both Trump/Biden. It's no longer about class.. that's old hat. This is now about race, ethnicity, gender, age, etc.

Britain is far more class conscious than the US, or most European countries.

Actually, it does, in a way, because identity politics hadn't gained as much traction outside of the US yet. That's changed now though..

IMO Trump supporters just want to get on with life without the identity baggage. Biggest mistake that Trump made was not siding with BLM on George Floyd, he shouldn't have stood with the police forces and he should have called on reforms. Though this is Trump.

I would say Biden's win was due to many in the centre unhappy with the rise of both fractions and the continuous talking up of Identity Politics. If it continues under Biden, the democrats will be gone in 2024.

Identity politics doesn't lead many people anywhere. The idea that in work you have to go to sensitivity training or to suggest that this someway negates bullying is bull****. If you have a staff member bullying someone (everyone gets bullied at sometime) you should get rid of the bully they are off no help to you, and sensitivity training will not work and only pits you against your own staff who don't bully and really don't want a lecture in work, they just want to work, get paid and go home.

Mike Murdock

Elmo wrote: »

IMO Trump supporters just want to get on with life without the identity baggage. Biggest mistake that Trump made was not siding with BLM on George Floyd, he shouldn't have stood with the police forces and he should have called on reforms. Though this is Trump.

I would say Biden's win was due to many in the centre unhappy with the rise of both fractions and the continuous talking up of Identity Politics. If it continues under Biden, the democrats will be gone in 2024.

Identity politics doesn't lead many people anywhere. The idea that in work you have to go to sensitivity training or to suggest that this someway negates bullying is bull****. If you have a staff member bullying someone (everyone gets bullied at sometime) you should get rid of the bully they are off no help to you, and sensitivity training will not work and only pits you against your own staff who don't bully and really don't want a lecture in work, they just want to work, get paid and go home.

Biden won because of Covid.

If Covid doesn't happen, Trump would have walked the election.

Elmo

Elmo wrote: »

IMO Trump supporters just want to get on with life without the identity baggage. Biggest mistake that Trump made was not siding with BLM on George Floyd, he shouldn't have stood with the police forces and he should have called on reforms. Though this is Trump.

His supporters do.. but Trump was very attentive to the various groups, through his use of social media, and approaches to the mainstream media. He was ticking boxes, as much as any other President.

As for BLM, I don't think it mattered what he did. It was always going to be a clusterf because of how US society developed previously.

Identity politics doesn't lead many people anywhere. The idea that in work you have to go to sensitivity training or to suggest that this someway negates bullying is bull****. If you have a staff member bullying someone (everyone gets bullied at sometime) you should get rid of the bully they are off no help to you, and sensitivity training will not work and only pits you against your own staff who don't bully and really don't want a lecture in work, they just want to work, get paid and go home.

Identity politics create and reinforce divisions. The sensitivity training, the anti-sexism training, the subconscious bias training, all seek to promote those divisions, make them noticeably more important and to elevate those 'discriminated' groups over others. It's a ploy to make the experts and enlightened in these fields successful, because they have talents that others don't have, and while others might learn, they'll always be tarnished by their pasts.

It's the height of hypocrisy, full of racism/sexism, and will likely generate far more hate/contempt than diminish.

As for most people wanting to work, get paid, go home... yes, I agree. Although, once you reach a certain income level (for those who aren't ambitious for higher positions), from their positions of relative security, they'll often become interested in such movements. It's a cancer within western society..

Dr. Bre

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Biden won because of Covid.

If Covid doesn't happen, Trump would have walked the election.

True. The economy was going well in America before covid . It’s all about the dollar

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56181084

"Conscience" only applies when it's what we believe.

Hector Savage

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1364182863785168900?s=19

Imagine a kid that has an aptitude for maths being taught this utter utter f*cking nonsense, it is a shame what they are doing to kids in schools, child abuse pure and simple.

Mike Murdock

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1364182863785168900?s=19

Imagine a kid that has an aptitude for maths being taught this utter utter f*cking nonsense, it is a shame what they are doing to kids in schools, child abuse pure and simple.

It's Ministry of Truth stuff here.

2+2 =4 one day

2+2 = 5 the next

silverharp

hopefully it has the seeds of its own destruction in it, people are only getting away with this crap because most people arent aware of it. introduce the weirdest crap into schools or the workplace and you would awaken the sleeping giant... at least I hope so. Far Left Millennials are this generation's Legion of Mary

Mike Murdock

I did LOL at this

https://twitter.com/thepoobah/status/1364184165722296320

Cienciano

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1364182863785168900?s=19

Imagine a kid that has an aptitude for maths being taught this utter utter f*cking nonsense, it is a shame what they are doing to kids in schools, child abuse pure and simple.

Dude, it's a parody account.

MisterAnarchy

Elmo wrote: »

I would say Biden's win was due to many in the centre unhappy with the rise of both fractions and the continuous talking up of Identity Politics. If it continues under Biden, the democrats will be gone in 2024.

Biden is the master of identity politics, its what he based his campaign on.
He was getting a hammering in the primaries but then made a ressurgence in states with large black populations.
BLM also came to the fore around the same time and he and the Democrats stoked that fire and did very little to condemn the rioting,looting and destruction.

Biden announced months in advance that his vice president was going to be female.
It was all about winning the female vote and in particular the black female vote, which was over 90% for Biden.
Look at his cabinet appointments and policies so far.
Its all based on identity and diversity.

Trump would have been relected if he handled the Covid crisis better.
He lost alot of the older vote, despite increasing his vote among blacks and hispanics and increased his overall vote by 12m from 2016.
These older people were afraid and Trump didnt do enough to reassure them.
Covid and Trump being Trump cost him the election.

Cienciano

Cienciano wrote: »

Dude, it's a parody account.

What the account tweeted isn't though.

silverharp

silverharp wrote: »

hopefully it has the seeds of its own destruction in it, people are only getting away with this crap because most people arent aware of it. introduce the weirdest crap into schools or the workplace and you would awaken the sleeping giant... at least I hope so. Far Left Millennials are this generation's Legion of Mary

I think people are aware of all this crap going on, but they're holding out hope that the government, or public service will be too sensible to adopt it. I've found that people tend to give a lot of credit to the government, in the mistaken belief that they'll apply common sense. Oh, they'll complain about all manner of issues, acknowledging the ineptitude or corruption of politicians, but in the end, when it comes to social policy, there's a last bastion of hope that sense will prevail.

As for introducing this stuff into schools, it's already there, and it's been there for years now. Once we saw a predominance of female teachers in schools, and the scandals or perception of male teachers as being "sexual predators", this stuff was going to get implemented..

Personally, I suspect most people are simply hoping that someone else will step up to get rid of this nonsense. They've got enough problems of their own, and it's not worth rocking the boat over pronouns, or some feminist driven propaganda.

Achebe

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Biden is the master of identity politics, its what he based his campaign on.
He was getting a hammering in the primaries but then made a ressurgence in states with large black populations.
BLM also came to the fore around the same time and he and the Democrats stoked that fire and did very little to condemn the rioting,looting and destruction.

Biden announced months in advance that his vice president was going to be female.
It was all about winning the female vote and in particular the black female vote, which was over 90% for Biden.
Look at his cabinet appointments and policies so far.
Its all based on identity and diversity.

Trump would have been relected if he handled the Covid crisis better.
He lost alot of the older vote, despite increasing his vote among blacks and hispanics and increased his overall vote by 12m from 2016.
These older people were afraid and Trump didnt do enough to reassure them.
Covid and Trump being Trump cost him the election.

Democrats need to stop expecting people from a part of the world known for its right wing death squads to always vote left wing.

Russian opposition leader no longer a prisoner of conscience, so does this mean that they'll give the Russian authorities free reign to "neutralise him" now that they've dumped him.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56181084
Amnesty International has stripped the Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny of his "prisoner of conscience" status after it says it was "bombarded" with complaints highlighting xenophobic comments that he has made in the past and not renounced.

A spokesman for the human rights organisation in Moscow told the BBC that he believed the wave of requests to "de-list" Navalny was part of an "orchestrated campaign" to discredit Vladimir Putin's most vocal critic and "impede" Amnesty's calls for his release from custody.

But on review, Amnesty International concluded that comments made by Navalny some 15 years ago, including a video which appears to compare immigrants to cockroaches, amounted to "hate speech" which was incompatible with the label "prisoner of conscience".

RandRuns

Deleted User wrote: »

Russian opposition leader no longer a prisoner of conscience, so does this mean that they'll give the Russian authorities free reign to "neutralise him" now that they've dumped him.

Amnesty must be one of the most morally bankrupt NGO's in the world at the moment.

They've gone from being a charity that supported and helped political prisoners, to a full-on Ministry of Truth for the woke extremists.
Colm O'Gorman is the Goebbels of the "progressive" movement.

MisterAnarchy

Oh the irony

https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/london-mayors-appointee-resigns-over-antisemitism-claims/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9283647/Activist-hired-Sadiq-Khan-review-Londons-statues-branded-racist-blog-posts.html

Toyin Agbetu, a member of Sadiq Khan's statue diversity commission, resigns over antisemitism and racist claims.

Cienciano

Deleted User wrote: »

What the account tweeted isn't though.

If you taught a class of black kids in LA there might be some good information in there.

jam_mac_jam

Diversity statue commission. I wonder will they take Cromwell down.

Not that they should. But I wonder.

Rodney Bathgate

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Diversity statue commission. I wonder will they take Cromwell down.

Not that they should. But I wonder.

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Oh the irony

https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/london-mayors-appointee-resigns-over-antisemitism-claims/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9283647/Activist-hired-Sadiq-Khan-review-Londons-statues-branded-racist-blog-posts.html

Toyin Agbetu, a member of Sadiq Khan's statue diversity commission, resigns over antisemitism and racist claims.

He might get his own statue now.

Hector Savage

Cienciano wrote: »

Dude, it's a parody account.

Are you f*cking serious ????

What it is referencing ISN'T tho !!!

Invidious

Hector Savage wrote: »

Imagine a kid that has an aptitude for maths being taught this utter utter f*cking nonsense, it is a shame what they are doing to kids in schools, child abuse pure and simple.

I looked up the website equitablemath.org and found this at the bottom of the page:

"We also wish to thank the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for their generous financial support of this project."

Turns out that the Gates Foundation gave this idiocy $1 million.

The screenshot making the rounds on Twitter is an image of the EquitableMath.org website that begins with: "White supremacy culture shows up in math classrooms when... The focus is on getting the 'right' answer."

That's followed by a paragraph that reads: "The concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false, and teaching it is even much less so. Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate objectivity as well as fear of open conflict."

Newsweek reached out the Gates Foundation, asking if it agrees with those assertions and asking it to explain their exact meaning. The group confirmed the donation but was unavailable to comment further.

Somehow, focusing on getting the right answer to a math problem perpetuates white supremacy? And Bill Gates — who built his career at Microsoft, where presumably there were "right" and "wrong" answers to problems — is financing efforts to promote this nonsense?

rightmove

Invidious wrote: »

I looked up the website equitablemath.org and found this at the bottom of the page:

"We also wish to thank the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for their generous financial support of this project."
?

Wonder if microsoft would employ the person who got the right answer or the not so right answer in the interview. Last time I looked their software didnt understand anything other then binary (no not that kinda binary!)

RandRuns

rightmove wrote: »

Wonder if microsoft would employ the person who got the right answer or the not so right answer in the interview. Last time I looked their software didnt understand anything other then binary (no not that kinda binary!)

You can be certain that Bill won't be hiring any of the idiots his influence creates.


Which leads to an obvious question;

What is it with these billionaires and pouring money into woke bollixology?

Gates, Soros etc. - what is it they get out of this? People who accrue the kind of wealth they do, don't do it by being soft-hearted, so there must be a reason for their sudden rush of leftism in the past few years.

Rodney Bathgate

Invidious wrote: »

I looked up the website equitablemath.org and found this at the bottom of the page:

"We also wish to thank the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for their generous financial support of this project."

Turns out that the Gates Foundation gave this idiocy $1 million.



Somehow, focusing on getting the right answer to a math problem perpetuates white supremacy? And Bill Gates — who built his career at Microsoft, where presumably there were "right" and "wrong" answers to problems — is financing efforts to promote this nonsense?

Surprised they didn’t go all out with ‘the reich answer’. Tossers. Gates Foundation should know better than to finance these idiots.