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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Bad day for the wokes and the Minister for Peter Tatchell Roderic O'Gorman. Sweden phasing out puberty blockers.

    https://segm.org/sites/default/files/Karolinska%20_Policy_Statement_English.pdf

    That is really great news. Really. I actually teared up a bit. I’m very interested in bioethics and medical ethics going back to my degree days and I was scarcely able to believe that so many countries were allowing this deeply unethical experimentation on minors to happen and for a country to make a bold, decisive step like this is really heartening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,334 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    johnmck wrote: »
    I'm Batman

    You may identify as such, but that doesn't mean I have to be compelled to facilitate your fantasies!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Vestiapx


    Shadow and Bone is a show on Netflix that used white stuntpeople for women of colour. It's not too long ago that men would have been used and if there wasn't a readily available good match for ability alternative then this is just priceless

    https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/05/10460540/shadow-bone-netflix-white-stunt-double-inej-amita-suman


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Feisar



    Why is the lighter tone always first? I’ll give them a shout to check their systemic/ingrained/cultural/inherent racism.

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Superman's not even human, let alone white.


    Correct, he was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster as a coded Jewish superhero shaped by the cultural and religious traditions of his creators, both Ukranian and Lithuanian immigrants. Superman is an alien refugee in a foreign land plagued by guilt about all those left behind to die and a hero for young Jewish immigrant boys to look up to.


    For people that bang on a lot about cultural appropriation, I wish just once SJW's would stop insisting erasing such cultural representation.
    Wokies have zero respect for history or cannon, everything must be reshaped or erased to match thier neurotic ideology, sometimes out of spite, but mostly becauese these soy golems that claim to be writers are unable to create anything compelling or interesting themselves, so they prefer to debase the creations of better men and wear them like buffalo Bill skin suits for thier own ideologies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,334 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    conorhal wrote: »
    Correct, he was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster as a coded Jewish superhero shaped by the cultural and religious traditions of his creators, both Ukranian and Lithuanian immigrants. Superman is an alien refugee in a foreign land plagued by guilt about all those left behind to die and a hero for young Jewish immigrant boys to look up to.

    I don't believe that's ever been confirmed...?

    If anything, though, this would strenghten the argument for having him portrayed by someone from an enthic nimonirty.

    But ultimately, my point stands: he can't come from an earth-based race when he's not from earth!
    For people that bang on a lot about cultural appropriation, I wish just once SJW's would stop insisting erasing such cultural representation.
    Wokies have zero respect for history or cannon, everything must be reshaped or erased to match thier neurotic ideology, sometimes out of spite, but mostly becauese these soy golems that claim to be writers are unable to create anything compelling or interesting themselves, so they prefer to debase the creations of better men and wear them like buffalo Bill skin suits for thier own ideologies.

    I'm not 100% I understand this....?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭conorhal


    If anything, this would strenghten the argument for having him portrayed by someone from an enthic nimonirty.


    I think I just pointed out that he already does represent an ethnic minority.

    But ultimately, my point stands: he can't come from an earth-based race when he's not from earth!


    So why instist he should be black then,are they not also a human based race?
    Superman should be represented as his creators intended rather then being culturally appropriated for a cheap virtue signal. Go make Blade, Luke Cage, Black Panther, Storm etc. if that's the representation you want. Why the hard on to race swap the character?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,334 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    conorhal wrote: »
    I think I just pointed out that he already does represent an ethnic minority.





    So why instist he should be black then,are they not also a human based race?
    Superman should be represented as his creators intended rather then being culturally appropriated for a cheap virtue signal. Go make Blade, Luke Cage, Black Panther, Storm etc. if that's the representation you want. Why the hard on to race swap the character?

    Non-earthling actors are difficult to find...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    I have to go to this in a few weeks.

    "Race Equality: What White People Can Do Next. In Conversation with Emma Dabiri"

    Would a talk from a white person "What Black People Need To Do..." be seen as anything other than wildly racist ?

    Why isn't this ?

    Because being white is a crime in history now - obviously ignoring the huge numbers of white people who have suffered deprivation at the hands of a small group of rich.

    Being a White, straight, semi successful male is practically a crime now for some reason and opinions should be kept to ones self as they will always cause offence. Because how can we understand....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,334 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I have to go to this in a few weeks.

    "Race Equality: What White People Can Do Next. In Conversation with Emma Dabiri"

    Would a talk from a white person "What Black People Need To Do..." be seen as anything other than wildly racist ?

    Why isn't this ?

    They'll tell you it's because black people aren't racist towards white and already know that to do, in which case you're response is: if black people can't be racist then white people can't be woke.

    I'm curious though why do you 'have' to go?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    Good point - a comment on her Twitter page said "black people are the most sinned against group in history".

    Jews on line one would like a word.


    Haha


    Was only reading about an elitist school in the US where entry requires that both your parents are Jewish by Birth for entry.

    Literally racist no?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,334 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Haha


    Was only reading about an elitist school in the US where entry requires that both your parents are Jewish by Birth for entry.

    Literally racist no?

    Judaism isn't a race though. Catholic schools in Ireland have similar criteria, I think.

    ---

    Regarding the 'most sinned against people' tag - depends: are we counting biblical times here as well?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    Judaism isn't a race though. Catholic schools in Ireland have similar criteria, I think.

    ---

    Regarding the 'most sinned against people' tag - depends: are we counting biblical times here as well?

    No Catholic schools cannot blanket refuse entry - that'd be against the old laws here.

    You are right Sectarian would be a better term I suppose, bunch of hypocrites would be another (mind you everyone is a hypocrite at heart)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,705 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Because being white is a crime in history now - obviously ignoring the huge numbers of white people who have suffered deprivation at the hands of a small group of rich.

    Being a White, straight, semi successful male is practically a crime now for some reason and opinions should be kept to ones self as they will always cause offence. Because how can we understand....

    According to this Emma Dabiri the white race and the black race were constructed to dehumanise people who became racialised as Black.
    “As a starting point, I want people to understand that the white race and the Black race were constructed to dehumanise people who became racialised as Black.
    It was to justify their exploitation because the economies of the west were becoming increasingly reliant on enslaved ‘Black’ labour, and central to the construction of whiteness was a notion of superiority. A lot of energy is invested in proving that racism exists.

    The white race was invented to advance the idea of white superiority
    If we just have a common knowledge that the white race was invented to advance the idea of white superiority, we can stop being shocked that racism exists and that there are countless examples of racism.”

    God is a racist now it seems.

    S2ES.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,334 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It's a work talk and we've been "very strongly encouraged" code for "go or else" - luckily enough it being remote these days a handy Wifi outage comes in handy.

    Then simply tell them you do not consent and that you feel triggered by their violation of your boundaries and need the day off.
    No Catholic schools cannot blanket refuse entry - that'd be against the old laws here.

    You are right Sectarian would be a better term I suppose, bunch of hypocrites would be another (mind you everyone is a hypocrite at heart)

    They can insist on Baptism certs, no? Or is that something that they aren't supposed to do but do anyway?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Salvation Tambourine


    I have to go to this in a few weeks.

    "Race Equality: What White People Can Do Next. In Conversation with Emma Dabiri"

    Would a talk from a white person "What Black People Need To Do..." be seen as anything other than wildly racist ?

    Why isn't this ?

    I was invited to something for work this week
    “How we win: Underrepresented Talent as a Business Differentiator"

    It’s no secret that diverse teams are more creative, innovative, productive and outperform teams that aren’t

    If I had attended I would probably have lost my job if I asked if someone was able to prove the above statement that is "no secret"


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,334 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Nokotan wrote: »

    If I had attended I would probably have lost my job if I asked if someone was able to prove the above statement that is "no secret"

    That makes sense - if you have a wider range of backgrounds (and by backgrounds, I mean jobs, positions, careers, life experiences as much as race) then you have a better chance of a wider range of ideas or solutions. If everyone is from the same backgraound and is of the same mindset, you're less likely to get that variety.

    Not saying it's true though.

    Of course, the counter to that is that it's also more likely to being about division and conflict and less likely to produce a consensus on anything positive.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Salvation Tambourine


    That makes sense - if you have a wider range of backgrounds (and by backgrounds, I mean jobs, positions, careers, life experiences as much as race) then you have a better chance of a wider range of ideas or solutions. If everyone is from the same backgraound and is of the same mindset, you're less likely to get that variety.

    Not saying it's true though.

    Of course, the counter to that is that it's also more likely to being about division and conflict and less likely to produce a consensus on anything positive.

    Yeah but as you are hinting at 'diverse' rarely means people of the same race from different backgrounds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭MyLove4Satan


    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/arts/design/turner-prize-shortlist.html?smid=tw-nytimesarts&smtyp=cur
    A group that runs raves for gay, transgender and queer people of color, and an association of artists with neurological conditions, are among five art collectives shortlisted for this year’s Turner Prize.

    It is the first time the shortlist for the British art prize has been made up entirely of group entries, without a single painter, photographer or filmmaker in the running. The nominees were announced on Friday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    I have to go to this in a few weeks.

    "Race Equality: What White People Can Do Next. In Conversation with Emma Dabiri"

    Would a talk from a white person "What Black People Need To Do..." be seen as anything other than wildly racist ?

    Why isn't this ?


    People need to stand and and refuse to go to this nonsense.
    I see one charlatan is getting £12,000 from corporations to give a lecture to the white staff on how racist they are ! - she is white herself.


    That's 12k for a 2 hr lecture.


    incredible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    I'm shocked the pair of them have their pronouns in their bio's.


    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57020386

    All aboard the crazy train, you'd think they'd be happy with paralympic representation , but I guess race beats disability on the victimhood hierarchy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57020386

    All aboard the crazy train, you'd think they'd be happy with paralympic representation , but I guess race beats disability on the victimhood hierarchy.

    She is just jealous


  • Registered Users Posts: 886 ✭✭✭brownej


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    She is just jealous

    yeah, jealous she isnt white enough to be in the picture. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Nokotan wrote: »
    Yeah but as you are hinting at 'diverse' rarely means people of the same race from different backgrounds.

    Thats the thing, even without forcing it we are a diverse species based on different lives lived.

    Colour of skin/gender etc isn't the only diversity, there are so many types. Yet only certain ones are pushed.

    Also it is a massive secret to me they are more successful, they might be, they might not be, its more down to the individuals then the fact the team is "diverse"

    This sort of corporate ****e just annoys me as someone who was told about our "far reaching and far impacting" diversity initiatives recently with no metrics, and were told without explanation managers will get "diversity points" soon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    brownej wrote: »
    yeah, jealous she isnt white enough to be in the picture. :rolleyes:

    She is ugly inside and out. Only beautiful people allowed for promotional picture


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    brownej wrote: »
    yeah, jealous she isnt white enough to be in the picture. :rolleyes:


    Or jealous that she doesn't stand out enough as an ATHLETE to be in the photo ?


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