Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

One eyed Jack

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

They're referring to female anatomy.

They’re not though, which is why they’re choosing to use the term ‘front hole’ as opposed to vulva or vagina which would be referring to the female anatomy, and wouldn’t nearly be so reductive either as to reduce women merely to the sum of their parts. It would be akin to referring to a penis as a stick. For a website portraying itself as providing information about matters relating to health and healthcare, ‘front hole’ isn’t even close.

AllForIt

One eyed Jack wrote: »

They’re not though, which is why they’re choosing to use the term ‘front hole’ as opposed to vulva or vagina which would be referring to the female anatomy, and wouldn’t nearly be so reductive either as to reduce women merely to the sum of their parts. It would be akin to referring to a penis as a stick. For a website portraying itself as providing information about matters relating to health and healthcare, ‘front hole’ isn’t even close.

And which front hole do they mean because ones mouth is a front hole as well. But that's why we give things names. I recommend we use them.

MisterAnarchy

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1403353767773458433

jam_mac_jam

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1403353767773458433

What does that mean. Build back in a more feminine way. What with more kittens and knitting and flowers. How patronising. Just say fairer or inclusive of everyone.

Frank Bullitt

Had a coffee chat with a coworker today. He told me at this last company, he was pulled in by HR because he used the word "lame" on a recored call...

I couldn't roll my eyes enough on that one.

ingalway

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1403353767773458433

Gender neutral AND feminine .

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

One eyed Jack wrote: »

They’re not though, which is why they’re choosing to use the term ‘front hole’ as opposed to vulva or vagina which would be referring to the female anatomy, and wouldn’t nearly be so reductive either as to reduce women merely to the sum of their parts. It would be akin to referring to a penis as a stick. For a website portraying itself as providing information about matters relating to health and healthcare, ‘front hole’ isn’t even close.

Hang on, might have picked this up wrong: they were using the phrases front bottom and back bottom to talk about male anatomy...?

And was Mohawk saying that the front hole is the urethra, or was he quoting them?

One eyed Jack

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Hang on, might have picked this up wrong: they were using the phrases front bottom and back bottom to talk about male anatomy...?

And was Mohawk saying that the front hole is the urethra, or was he quoting them?

Nah PB, yourself and mohawk have demonstrated exactly the issue with the use of the term ‘front hole’ - in attempting to be gender inclusive, the writers just confuse even more people than educating people about sexual health and healthcare (though how mohawk thought the urethra was exclusive to women and involved in sex? Kinky af :pac:).

Basically to put it in context, the sexual health and education guide was originally written with people who are transgender in mind, and they stated that they purposely avoid associating body parts with either sex because gendering body parts is unnecessary in their opinion. Referring to “male parts” and “female parts” is unnecessary. Instead of referring specifically to the vagina because in their opinion some people who are transgender experience dysphoria around the term, they would use the term “front hole” -


Why we need an LGBTQIA-inclusive safer sex guide

Traditional safe sex guides are often structured in a way that presumes everyone’s gender (male/female/nonbinary/trans) is the same as the sex they were assigned at birth (male/female/intersex or differences in sexual development).

Sex education resources often use videos, pictures, and diagrams as a way to convey important information, though these images and videos have historically failed to reflect or provide information about same-sex and queer relationships. In fact, the GLSEN 2015 National School Climate Survey shows that only about 5 percent of LGBTQ students saw LGBTQ representation in health class.

These guides also often unnecessarily gender body parts as being “male parts” and “female parts” and refer to “sex with women” or “sex with men,” excluding those who identify as nonbinary. Many individuals don’t see body parts as having a gender — people have a gender.

And as a result, the notion that a penis is exclusively a male body part and a vulva is exclusively a female body part is inaccurate. By using the word “parts” to talk about genitals and using medical terms for anatomy without attaching a gender to it, we become much more able to effectively discuss safe sex in a way that’s clear and inclusive.

For the purposes of this guide, we’ll refer to the vagina as the “front hole” instead of solely using the medical term “vagina.” This is gender-inclusive language that’s considerate of the fact that some trans people don’t identify with the labels the medical community attaches to their genitals.

For example, some trans and nonbinary-identified people assigned female at birth may enjoy being the receptor of penetrative sex, but experience gender dysphoria when that part of their body is referred to using a word that society and professional communities often associate with femaleness. An alternative that’s becoming increasingly popular in trans and queer communities is front hole.

The lack of representation and anti-LGBTQIA bias that LGBTQIA and nonbinary people often see in safe sex guides stigmatizes certain sexual behaviors and identities. It’s also directly related to the health disparities and higher rates of HIV and STIs reported within these communities.

Discrimination in the sex ed world along with lack of access to healthcare tailored for LGBTQIA people and their needs plays a role in health disparities observed in LBGTQIA communities. For these reasons, it’s imperative for safe sex guides to become more inclusive of LGBTQIA and nonbinary people and their experiences. This will help address barriers to accessing care and effective educational tools, while simultaneously normalizing and acknowledging the true diversity that exists with regard to gender and sexuality.


LGBTQIA Safe Sex Guide


In their opinion the terms penis and vagina are inaccurate, but the term ‘front hole’ isn’t any more accurate or specific. It’s a euphemism, purposely vague and non-specific, rendering their sexual health education guide effectively useless for 95% of the population that isn’t familiar with the term ‘front hole’ as some people use it to refer to the vagina.

It’s similar to the language used to refer to “individuals with a cervix”. It’s not inclusive, it’s not progressive, it’s not even something woke which is what the thread is about that we can make jokes about, it’s just stupid, patronising and misleading nonsense that’s more confusing and frustrating than it is in any way helpful or educational.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Nah PB, yourself and mohawk have demonstrated exactly the issue with the use of the term ‘front hole’ - in attempting to be gender inclusive, the writers just confuse even more people than educating people about sexual health and healthcare (though how mohawk thought the urethra was exclusive to women and involved in sex? Kinky af :pac:).

Basically to put it in context, the sexual health and education guide was originally written with people who are transgender in mind, and they stated that they purposely avoid associating body parts with either sex because gendering body parts is unnecessary in their opinion. Referring to “male parts” and “female parts” is unnecessary. Instead of referring specifically to the vagina because in their opinion some people who are transgender experience dysphoria around the term, they would use the term “front hole” -


Why we need an LGBTQIA-inclusive safer sex guide

Traditional safe sex guides are often structured in a way that presumes everyone’s gender (male/female/nonbinary/trans) is the same as the sex they were assigned at birth (male/female/intersex or differences in sexual development).

Sex education resources often use videos, pictures, and diagrams as a way to convey important information, though these images and videos have historically failed to reflect or provide information about same-sex and queer relationships. In fact, the GLSEN 2015 National School Climate Survey shows that only about 5 percent of LGBTQ students saw LGBTQ representation in health class.

These guides also often unnecessarily gender body parts as being “male parts” and “female parts” and refer to “sex with women” or “sex with men,” excluding those who identify as nonbinary. Many individuals don’t see body parts as having a gender — people have a gender.

And as a result, the notion that a penis is exclusively a male body part and a vulva is exclusively a female body part is inaccurate. By using the word “parts” to talk about genitals and using medical terms for anatomy without attaching a gender to it, we become much more able to effectively discuss safe sex in a way that’s clear and inclusive.

For the purposes of this guide, we’ll refer to the vagina as the “front hole” instead of solely using the medical term “vagina.” This is gender-inclusive language that’s considerate of the fact that some trans people don’t identify with the labels the medical community attaches to their genitals.

For example, some trans and nonbinary-identified people assigned female at birth may enjoy being the receptor of penetrative sex, but experience gender dysphoria when that part of their body is referred to using a word that society and professional communities often associate with femaleness. An alternative that’s becoming increasingly popular in trans and queer communities is front hole.

The lack of representation and anti-LGBTQIA bias that LGBTQIA and nonbinary people often see in safe sex guides stigmatizes certain sexual behaviors and identities. It’s also directly related to the health disparities and higher rates of HIV and STIs reported within these communities.

Discrimination in the sex ed world along with lack of access to healthcare tailored for LGBTQIA people and their needs plays a role in health disparities observed in LBGTQIA communities. For these reasons, it’s imperative for safe sex guides to become more inclusive of LGBTQIA and nonbinary people and their experiences. This will help address barriers to accessing care and effective educational tools, while simultaneously normalizing and acknowledging the true diversity that exists with regard to gender and sexuality.


LGBTQIA Safe Sex Guide


In their opinion the terms penis and vagina are inaccurate, but the term ‘front hole’ isn’t any more accurate or specific. It’s a euphemism, purposely vague and non-specific, rendering their sexual health education guide effectively useless for 95% of the population that isn’t familiar with the term ‘front hole’ as some people use it to refer to the vagina.

It’s similar to the language used to refer to “individuals with a cervix”. It’s not inclusive, it’s not progressive, it’s not even something woke which is what the thread is about that we can make jokes about, it’s just stupid, patronising and misleading nonsense that’s more confusing and frustrating than it is in any way helpful or educational.

It's way too early to unpack all that, but I think I get the gist of what you mean!

ingalway

Peak Identity politics madness:
https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1402968121250615301?s=19
Privileged white women to blame for wanting men from minorities prosecuted for sexual crimes.

Jimbob1977

The teenager who recorded George Floyd's death was awarded an honorary Pulitzer Prize.

It would have been more helpful if people tried to intervene.

Recording incidents (while doing nothing) is a major character flaw of the 21st century/social media era. The bystander effect.

Oh look - that teenager is getting beaten up and bullied by two older teens! I'll record it.

That person appears to be drowning! But it will look great on Twitter!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

The teenager who recorded George Floyd's death was awarded an honorary Pulitzer Prize.

It would have been more helpful if people tried to intervene.

Recording incidents (while doing nothing) is a major character flaw of the 21st century/social media era. The bystander effect.

Oh look - that teenager is getting beaten up and bullied by two older teens! I'll record it.

That person appears to be drowning! But it will look great on Twitter!

I think that's a bit harsh on the George Floyd case. When you've got police officers who're demonstrating the fact that they're okay with the possibility of killing someone, you'd be crazy to get invovled.

Cordell

ingalway wrote: »

Peak Identity politics madness:
https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1402968121250615301?s=19
Privileged white women to blame for wanting men from minorities prosecuted for sexual crimes.

Well of course. Whites are guilty of privilege hence they are not in any position to judge minority people for anything.
The one without sin should first cast the stone, and being white is the greatest sin.

AllForIt

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aec64082-cbb4-11eb-b575-81b2a16c3be4?shareToken=203864c87d5e4519397c8dea43d8a407

A campaign encouraging Scottish NHS staff to sign a pledge and wear a badge supporting gay, lesbian and transgender people has been criticised after it emerged participation in the scheme will be monitored.

I find all this rarther embrassing personally. A badge ffs.

rightmove

AllForIt wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aec64082-cbb4-11eb-b575-81b2a16c3be4?shareToken=203864c87d5e4519397c8dea43d8a407



I find all this rarther embrassing personally. A badge ffs.

i remember one country that used to make ppl wear badges.. it would have been around 1939ish

Geuze

AllForIt wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aec64082-cbb4-11eb-b575-81b2a16c3be4?shareToken=203864c87d5e4519397c8dea43d8a407

This is nearly becoming frightening.

Employers monitoring personal beliefs


Why don't the NHS deal with waiting times / lists, rather than doing this?

Ri_Nollaig

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Recording incidents (while doing nothing) is a major character flaw of the 21st century/social media era. The bystander effect.

Oh look - that teenager is getting beaten up and bullied by two older teens! I'll record it.

To be fair, that wasn't some other teenager, it was a uniformed police officer.
I don't think many would intervene there, pre/post the ubiquity of smart phones.

Cordell

Geuze wrote: »

This is nearly becoming frightening.

Employers monitoring personal beliefs


Why don't the NHS deal with waiting times / lists, rather than doing this?

Potential employers will absolutely search you online and if your facebook/twitter/whatever shows that you're inclined to wrongthink, guess what.

Ash.J.Williams

remember the 4 poofs and a piano on the jonathan ross show ?

is that wrong now?

Geuze

Geuze wrote: »

This is nearly becoming frightening.

Employers monitoring personal beliefs


Why don't the NHS deal with waiting times / lists, rather than doing this?

There seems to be a growing backlash against this craziness:

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2021/06/mission-protocol.html

"A handful of founders and CEOs—Brian Armstrong of Coinbase, Jason Fried of Basecamp, Shopify’s Tobias Lütke, Medium’s Ev Williams—have said the unsayable. In the face of shop-floor social-justice activism, they’ve decided, business owners should resolve to stick to business.

No hashtag coders. No message-board threads about anti-racism or neo-pronouns. No open letters meant to get someone fired for a decade-old tweet. No politics. As Armstrong put it in his famous (or infamous) September 27th, 2020 blog post, business should be “mission focused.” A software developer explained that the conciliatory approach has become too costly: “The Slack ****, the company-wide emails, it definitely spills out into real life, and it’s a huge productivity drag.”

In October, a pseudonymous group inspired by Coinbase’s Brian Armstrong came together under the banner “Mission Protocol,” with the aim of getting other companies to start “putting aside activities and conversations” outside the scope of their professional missions. (“Mission focus doesn’t mean being apolitical,” they note. “It means being political about the mission. This mission is what you came together to accomplish, and this mission is what you’re fighting for in your work on the project.”) Paul Graham, a famed venture capitalist and “hacker philosopher,” tweeted his support to 1.3 million followers. Melia Russell, who covers the startup beat for Business Insider, noted that startups were jumping into the Mission Protocol threads “with a hell yes.”

MisterAnarchy

Poor old He- Man is getting the Woke makeover

https://twitter.com/StevenWayneArt/status/1396149740589379584

ingalway

ingalway wrote: »

Peak Identity politics madness:
https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1402968121250615301?s=19
Privileged white women to blame for wanting men from minorities prosecuted for sexual crimes.

There's a backlash against women from the ultra politically correct mob.

ingalway

Lurleen wrote: »

There's a backlash against women from the ultra politically correct mob.

Absolutely.
Amnesty, Stonewall, UK Labour Party, Greens, Oxfam, NHS...

No it isn't just right-wing conservatives who object to such insanity. Nice gas-lighting Newsweek:

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-admin-replaces-mothers-birthing-people-maternal-health-guidance-1598343

Maybe many object because they are women/mothers, irrespective of their political persuasion?

Penn

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Poor old He- Man is getting the Woke makeover

https://twitter.com/StevenWayneArt/status/1396149740589379584

https://twitter.com/ThatKevinSmith/status/1404494386281390080?s=20

Dyr

Penn wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ThatKevinSmith/status/1404494386281390080?s=20

It' still alright for He man and Skeletor to go around in their jocks but Evil Lin has to be covered up like she's visiting the Vatican, plus she looks like a bloke

I guess this is why Japanese animation is destroying its American counter part

Rasputin11

UEFA are going with Star of The Match instead of Man of The Match at the Euro's, more nonsense.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Rasputin11 wrote: »

UEFA are going with Star of The Match instead of Man of The Match at the Euro's, more nonsense.

I think you're out-wokibg the woke there with the offemse/anger!

TomSweeney

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

Had a coffee chat with a coworker today. He told me at this last company, he was pulled in by HR because he used the word "lame" on a recored call...

I couldn't roll my eyes enough on that one.

Whats wrong with lame now ?

TomSweeney

AllForIt wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aec64082-cbb4-11eb-b575-81b2a16c3be4?shareToken=203864c87d5e4519397c8dea43d8a407



I find all this rarther embrassing personally. A badge ffs.

I find it disturbing that it will be monitored.
So what happens to people that don't wear the badge ?



Orwellian.