Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

AdrianBalboa

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

13 years after the publication of Mein Kampf. If only someone had protested peacefully about that in 1925.

Sorry... but no... that's an utterly retarded comparison, completely ignorant of the way the world was like then, or the attitudes of people in general.

In any case, Andy Ngo's book criticises Antifa.. and you're comparing that with the promotion of hate of various races? You really have lost all sense of scale. Which actually does suggest that you are a supporter of Antifa. Fits the profile.

(Disclaimer: retarded comparison, refers to your post, not you. Just in case, you don't notice the difference.)

AdrianBalboa

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sorry... but no... that's an utterly retarded comparison, completely ignorant of the way the world was like then, or the attitudes of people in general.

In any case, Andy Ngo's book criticises Antifa.. and you're comparing that with the promotion of hate of various races? You really have lost all sense of scale. Which actually does suggest that you are a supporter of Antifa. Fits the profile.

You need to calm down. I’m pointing out that Antifa protesting a book being sold in one shop isn’t akin to Nazi Germany’s mass censorship by making a similarly absurd comparison between this book and Mein Kampf. Neither of them are comparable is my point.

RandRuns

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

13 years after the publication of Mein Kampf. If only someone had protested peacefully about that in 1925.

:D:D

Like all the opinions I've seen you express, you've this one @rse over elbow.

Hitler wrote Mein Kampf in prison. He became the "celebrity" he did after the publication of Mein Kampf because the German state supressed his opinions, and therefore built him into a folk hero.

Opinions you disagree with should be debated, not supressed. Supressing contrary opinions never works. History is littered with dictators who used the early suppression of their opinions as the springboard that propelled them to power - both Hitler and Stalin used it very effectively.

Supression is the tool of the weak intellect.

EmmetSpiceland

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Rupert Murdoch is not Jewish.

Correct, but he does have Jewish contacts, but their religion is not really important, their business interests however are quite important as it shapes how he runs his business.

AdrianBalboa

RandRuns wrote: »

:D:D

Like all the opinions I've seen you express, you've this one @rse over elbow.

Hitler wrote Mein Kampf in prison. He became the "celebrity" he did after the publication of Mein Kampf because the German state supressed his opinions, and therefore built him into a folk hero.

Opinions you disagree with should be debated, not supressed. Supressing contrary opinions never works. History is littered with dictators who used the early suppression of their opinions as the springboard that propelled them to power - both Hitler and Stalin used it very effectively.

Supression is the tool of the weak intellect.

Hitler was imprisoned for being the leader of a failed coup that killed 20 people, not for "his opinions."

Curse These Metal Hands

I wouldn't bother engaging. Dragging the thread way off topic and turning it into a mess of tit for tat bickering is their tactic to get the thread locked. That's why these types always post in packs.

RandRuns

RandRuns wrote: »

:D:D

Like all the opinions I've seen you express, you've this one @rse over elbow.

Hitler wrote Mein Kampf in prison. He became the "celebrity" he did after the publication of Mein Kampf because the German state supressed his opinions, and therefore built him into a folk hero.

Opinions you disagree with should be debated, not supressed. Supressing contrary opinions never works. History is littered with dictators who used the early suppression of their opinions as the springboard that propelled them to power - both Hitler and Stalin used it very effectively.

Supression is the tool of the weak intellect.

Also called the Barbra Streisand effect, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Curse These Metal Hands

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

I wouldn't bother engaging. Dragging the thread way off topic and turning it into a mess of tit for tat bickering is their tactic to get the thread locked. That's why these types always post in packs.

Best to continue the discussion without them, they hate that.

AdrianBalboa

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

I wouldn't bother engaging. Dragging the thread way off topic and turning it into a mess of tit for tat bickering is their tactic to get the thread locked. That's why these types always post in packs.

Playing the victim again. Conspiracy theories. "They're posting in packs to get this thread locked."

I hope this thread never gets locked. It brings me immense joy to see the right-wing apologists moaning like grandads impotently about rainbow shoe laces and comparing everything "the left" does to Nazi Germany. It's absolutely hilarious.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

So a shop needs to stock every single book every printed in your eyes in order not to “ban” anything?

Sometimes some bookshops need to make the retailing equivalent of editing and choose which books to sell. In this case the market told them it wouldn’t be welcome.

Did the market tell them that? A picket isn’t indicative. Anyway, these protests are often counter-productive, resulting in more people being aware of the book than if the protest hadn’t occurred.

kildare lad

biko wrote: »

Lovely crowd. News of that the shop had to evacuate customers through the back made it all the way to Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CegccR1dbUc

The irony of it is , he'll sell more books now , go antifa...how did I know there's always someone with pink or blue hair protesting...

Sir Oxman

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

I wouldn't bother engaging. Dragging the thread way off topic and turning it into a mess of tit for tat bickering is their tactic to get the thread locked. That's why these types always post in packs.

Yup, a few spicy stormtroopers the last day or so.

Sir Oxman

Delicious.

https://twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/status/1355008766870233096

AdrianBalboa

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Did the market tell them that? A picket isn’t indicative. Anyway, these protests are often counter-productive, resulting in more people being aware of the book than if the protest hadn’t occurred.

Well the protest was about that shop selling the book, not about nobody reading it anywhere. So it doesn't matter if "more people are aware of it."

Also a picket is indicative of the market. Local people picketing their local bookshop.

RandRuns

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Hitler was imprisoned for being the leader of a failed coup that killed 20 people, not for "his opinions."

Which is why I didn't say he was......

biko

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Rupert Murdoch is not Jewish.

Hmm, seems you're right https://matzav.com/rupert-murdoch-i-am-not-jewish-but.
Thanks for correcting that.

SnazzyPig

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Well the protest was about that shop selling the book, not about nobody reading it anywhere. So it doesn't matter if "more people are aware of it."

Also a picket is indicative of the market. Local people picketing their local bookshop.

Really?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Well the protest was about that shop selling the book, not about nobody reading it anywhere. So it doesn't matter if "more people are aware of it."

Also a picket is indicative of the market. Local people picketing their local bookshop.

A picket can be five people. Indeed it can be two people. And in an urban area, it would need to be a big crowd to give any indication of it being a widely shared sentiment in that location. I’m not hearing many voices in that clip. (Portland population: 645,000 - similar to Dublin. That picket in Dublin would tell me precisely nothing about the general population’s feeling on the book). Indicative of the market? Sure, Jan.

But the publicity will probably boost the book’s sales. Numpties.

AdrianBalboa

biko wrote: »

Hmm, seems you're right https://matzav.com/rupert-murdoch-i-am-not-jewish-but.
Thanks for correcting that.

You should apologise to me for insinuating that I was being anti-Semitic.

Danzy

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Well the protest was about that shop selling the book, not about nobody reading it anywhere. So it doesn't matter if "more people are aware of it."

Also a picket is indicative of the market. Local people picketing their local bookshop.

Local rich kid tossers are not the demographic it was for. Their picket shouldn't matter, they can still picket, not just because their daddy's lawyer is backing them but because people have a right to.

People should also be allowed buy books.

Danzy

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

Here's something that will blow your mind, I'm on the left and love having a laugh at ridiculous far left ideology. It's almost at if everything isn't black or white and there's actual nuance in the world? Mad really.

Now if you'd excuse me I'm off to practice not calling people "pigs" anymore incase actual pigs get their feelings hurt.

There are probably more Left leaning people driving this thread than right leaning.

AdrianBalboa

Danzy wrote: »

Local rich kid tossers are not the demographic it was for. Their picket shouldn't matter, they can still picket, not just because their daddy's lawyer is backing them but because people have a right to.

People should also be allowed buy books.

People are allowed to buy books. The book is still available to buy, even from that retailer’s own website.

AllForIt

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

....The book is still available to buy, even from that retailer’s own website.

Then what difference does it make if a retailer stocks it.

Ted_YNWA

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

A ridiculous statement. Risible. The majority of views on this thread are nowhere near “the middle”.

Angry men, with a couple of Aunt Lydia types, trawling through twitter, and other message board sites, looking for something to get upset about, under the guise of “laughing”.

You even have users posting up fake stories designed to get other, desperate contributors, their irate “fix”.

This thread is a blight on AH and should be blasted off into “Current Affairs” where it belongs.

Mod
Don't like it!

Don't post in it again

biko

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

You should apologise to me for insinuating that I was being anti-Semitic.

Yeah sorry about that. I was sure he was Jewish and it did sound like you were going all conspiracy theory on him.

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Yeah the Murdochs made sure they saw it in Australia alright. It’s in their best interests.

AdrianBalboa

AllForIt wrote: »

Then what difference does it make if a retailer stocks it.

I don’t know, I don’t care if they sell it or not.

I’m only responding to these ideas that the protests were somehow comparable with the atrocities in Nazi Germany.

Ted_YNWA

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

You need to calm down.

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

You should apologise to me for insinuating that I was being anti-Semitic.

Mod

Listen to your own advise & knock the aggressive posting levels down a notch if you want to continue posting here.

Ted_YNWA

Mod

Things have been getting very heated here.

Can everyone relax.

There has been multiple cards handed out & posted deleted.

AllForIt

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

I don’t know, I don’t care if they sell it or not.

I’m only responding to these ideas that the protests were somehow comparable with the atrocities in Nazi Germany.

To follow on from my point, since it makes no difference whether the store stocks the book or not then what they are doing is harassing the store owner and identifying them as an enemy in their community. Maybe not Nazi level activities but not admirable peaceful protesting either. Actually I think they're pure scum, I don't why I'm holding back.

It's simple enough. We have laws. We also have government agencies who will monitor what books are published and can censor material should they determine it's dangerous for society. It's kinda funny because the people wanting to prevent the sale of this book, will likely be the people who'd complain about their own interests being regulated.

We don't need private citizens deciding what others should or should not read. Fine. Make suggestions on a website. Pay for an article in a newspaper or magazine. Make your opinions known in such a manner, that those who want to listen, can listen.

But this protesting in front of a store.. no.. I don't like it. Antifa have been up repeatedly for violence being associated with their protests. They have a reputation, and even when they do protest peacefully, that reputation serves to intimidate others. And that's wrong. Utterly.

I don't like this desire by various groups to censor information, and control the behavior of others. I've seen "the culture of silence", and the fear that happens in China, where people are afraid to voice their opinions, because of who, in society, might possibly, find some nugget of controversy to get the speaker in trouble. It's horrible.. and Antifa (and others) are encouraging such a culture to become established in the West. Not coming from the government, but by militant groups.

Invidious

The irony, of course, is that by kicking up such a fuss over this book, and trying to prevent people from buying or reading it, they're only generating publicity around it. The book will get far more attention thanks to its would-be censors.

Ash.J.Williams

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I don’t really fancy withholding period products from preteen girls, do you?

There’s people who can’t afford school books and clothes so period products are definitely on the list too

Potential-Monke

This thread used to be better when it was just posting the over-woke nonsense. I wish it was like that again.

AdrianBalboa

Potential-Monke wrote: »

This thread used to be better when it was just posting the over-woke nonsense. I wish it was like that again.

A safe space?

Abel Ruiz

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

A safe space?

Yawn

biko

Potential-Monke wrote: »

This thread used to be better when it was just posting the over-woke nonsense. I wish it was like that again.

I'll try

https://twitter.com/ReaICosy/status/1355634035238842373?s=20

AdrianBalboa

biko wrote: »

I'll try

https://twitter.com/ReaICosy/status/1355634035238842373?s=20

What’s “woke” about that?

Sir Oxman

biko wrote: »

I'll try

https://twitter.com/ReaICosy/status/1355634035238842373?s=20

That's more like it :D

doublejobbing 2

Aodhan O'Riordan reminding us that if he caught me in bed with his wife he would ask if I wanted a go on his sister when I was finished:

https://twitter.com/AodhanORiordain/status/1161676012071137280


Imagine this fella being your dad.

biko

biko wrote: »

I'll try

Ah.. they're just ripping that off..

That was done a few years ago..

RandRuns

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Aodhan O'Riordan reminding us that if he caught me in bed with his wife he would ask if I wanted a go on his sister when I was finished:

https://twitter.com/AodhanORiordain/status/1161676012071137280


Imagine this fella being your dad.

I had to look him up after reading your post because I had always assumed Aodhan was married to a guy.
He's married to a woman, and he has a child?
Would never in a million years have guessed that.

doublejobbing 2

As someone once said, in 2021 there are only two types of fascists'.

The fascists, and the anti fascists.

COVID

Potential-Monke wrote: »

This thread used to be better when it was just posting the over-woke nonsense. I wish it was like that again.

Tom O Neil wrote: »

Aodhan is the type of lad who wouldn't ask any questions if the baby came out half black.

JeffreyEpspeen

Anyone else find it ironic that there's a false narrative going around of there being a problem with racism in this country because of one person getting stabbed by a courier defending himself and another person getting shot by the guards after refusing to put down a weapon having committed an assault that sent someone to A&E, yet nobody seems to have a problem with South American, predominantly Brazilian, couriers being targeted for assaults and theft?

Biker79

Re: Aodhan O'Riordan....Something slightly off about people who change their name to its gaelic version.

I've yet to meet one who is well versed in Irish history and can actually speak the language - which you might well expect they would be able to do. They seem to be claiming a sort of authenticity without doing anything to earn it.

Of course with such vigorous virtue signalling, you would expect them to be male feminists as well.

Biker79

Biker79 wrote: »

Re: Aodhan O'Riordan....Something slightly off about people who change their name to its gaelic version.

I've yet to meet one that is well versed in Irish history and can actually speak the language - which you might well expect they would be able to do. They seem to be claiming a sort of authenticity without doing anything to earn it.

Of course with such vigorous virtue signalling, you would expect them to be male feminists as well.

I dunno. I don't see a problem with it myself if they (and their ancestors) were Irish. I grew up speaking Irish fluently, but now in my 40s, I'd struggle to have anything more substantial than a few minutes of a fairly basic conversation. Although, admittedly, the only time I ever use my full name in Irish, is when I want to confuse foreigners. There's little point nowadays otherwise.

Now, if it was a Black lady with a very Irish surname, then I'd be a little bemused. I met a black woman recently with the same surname as mine, and my surname (in Irish) isn't terribly common (the English is common enough in my local area, but still, it would be weird to meet a non-white person with it). Made me do a double take.

Invidious

Biker79 wrote: »

Re: Aodhan O'Riordan....Something slightly off about people who change their name to its gaelic version.

I've yet to meet one that is well versed in Irish history and can actually speak the language - which you might well expect they would be able to do. They seem to be claiming a sort of authenticity without doing anything to earn it.

Of course with such vigorous virtue signalling, you would expect them to be male feminists as well.

Aodhán Ó Ríordáin ... having no fewer than four fadas in his name must make him feel very special.

Sir Oxman

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1356053018677047299

kildare lad

Sir Oxman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1356053018677047299

Wow..... Congratulations you've survived the accident, we gave you a blood transfusion but unfortunately you got aids now .

Biker79

Deleted User wrote: »

I dunno. I don't see a problem with it myself if they (and their ancestors) were Irish. I grew up speaking Irish fluently, but now in my 40s, I'd struggle to have anything more substantial than a few minutes of a fairly basic conversation. Although, admittedly, the only time I ever use my full name in Irish, is when I want to confuse foreigners. There's little point nowadays otherwise.

Now, if it was a Black lady with a very Irish surname, then I'd be a little bemused. I met a black woman recently with the same surname as mine, and my surname (in Irish) isn't terribly common (the English is common enough in my local area, but still, it would be weird to meet a non-white person with it). Made me do a double take.

Yeah it is a tricky one. It is ripe for hijacking by the right-on, ID politics brigade though.


It's enough to generate a bleep on my Woke Radar Alerting system. :pac: