Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

ILoveYourVibes

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

You're probably on track for being woke in the next couple of weeks and then cancelled within the following 1.4 years.

You are no one until you are cancelled.

MoonUnit75

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

It's a classic tactic used by cults to undermine autonomous decision making and critical thought. The penalties for breaking obscure and irrational rules are so severe that people come to depend entirely on the cult leadership for guidance on 'correct' behaviour and thought. It is intended to impact every aspect of how they express themselves or think about the world.

I'd kinda agree... although i think it's more about being a 'victim' cult. When you've focused your whole history, culture, etc around being downtrodden by others, then you need to constantly expand on that victimisation to stay relevant, while at the same time, encouraging the existence of an identifiable enemy. As such the cult persona, or group consciousness despises/condemns anyone who veers away from the victim scenario because it weakens the overall effect. For feminists, the enemy is the male gender. For African Americans, it's white people. A nice generalised enemy without specific form, which can be blamed for all manner of sins.

Double standards are encouraged because it shows their superiority as victims because victims can't be blamed for anything. Ever. They are, who they are, due to external influences beyond their control.

If you listen to how ex-cult members describe how they became totally brainwashed and dependent on the cult they list lots of seemingly irrational and nonsensical rules they are ordered to follow, like men have to shave in the morning by running the blade down instead of up on their necks. It makes no sense and it is actually more painful but that is the point, once you start to accept leadership authority on the little details of behaviour and language you rapidly begin to lose the ability to act rationally and in your own best interests. The cult membership itself becomes a person, everyone in it is just like a hair on the head of the cult persona. When you speak it is the cult that talks.

Agreed.

blinding

blinding wrote: »

Can you not just identify as Black and fire away. Has’t there been cases of white people identifying as black and living as black.

No idea... can't imagine they'd get away with it, in this modern world of ours.

Sure nowadays you can be a man or a woman so why not Black , White , Yellow , Brown.

I think you'll find a massive backlash if you tried that.. as a white person trying to show that they're black. I could be wrong... but I suspect, you'd have to be very careful where you were while doing it.

If you were a dark skinned white man sure you are miles closer to being a Black Man than to any sort of Woman ! !

No idea. I know people who are mixed ethnicity and they've said that they receive a lot of racism from their respective groups. Both Black and white people. It doesn't matter. People will define you based on their own perception of what is black/white...

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I was surprised when I came to this part of the world that Paki is considered an offensive/racist term. Back home it was simply a slang term for Pakistani in the same way that Aussie was for Australian. It was normal to hear it on the radio or TV when people were talking about the Pakistani cricket team. I have been called out a few times when I have used it in Ireland or the UK (by white people) even though I was simply referring to something Pakistani.

In my corner of Ireland, 'Paki' was used non-derogatorily too. This was the '80s and '90s. I was from a place with an unusually high Pakistani population for Ireland and everyone used it, included people of Pakistani descent. There was an annual Paddies vs Pakis hurling match. That's what it was called. The term 'half-caste' was also commonplace and not considered a slur. So even within Ireland, there are little pockets where words aren't considered slurs.

pickarooney wrote: »

Would you not take the hint the first time, in fairness?

Habit and conditioning. I struggle to not use the term 'half-caste' even now because I grew up using it. Words become part of your vocabulary.

bertiebomber

when will wokism end? Most people are fed up wit it & see through it , Its worse than Covid. Liberal lefty ****e is over done and everyone sees this. Move on animals lives matter more than any other lives so smoke that !

Caught a bit of Joe (wash your hands) Duffy today about cervical smear testing for “People with a cervix”. WOKE in the extreme.

ArrBee

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I struggle to not use the term 'half-caste' even now because I grew up using it. Words become part of your vocabulary.

Wait. Half-caste is not OK?

It's really hard to keep up...

blinding

Deleted User wrote: »

Caught a bit of Joe (wash your hands) Duffy today about cervical smear testing for “People with a cervix”. WOKE in the extreme.

T'would really clog top the waiting lists if all of the Men showed up form their Cervical Smear Test ! !

Joe Duffy would probably do all the Male Ones and ask them how they felt as Joe Rooted around looking for their Cervix. Joe would probably slip something else in while he was at it ! !

blinding

ArrBee wrote: »

Wait. Half-caste is not OK?

It's really hard to keep up...

Only for when they have taken half the cast off your leg. You were full cast up until that !

Strumms

blinding wrote: »

T'would really clog top the waiting lists if all of the Men showed up form their Cervical Smear Test ! !

Joe Duffy would probably do all the Male Ones and ask them how they felt as Joe Rooted around looking for their Cervix. Joe would probably slip something else in while he was at it ! !

That’s a hell of an image right there, ohhh merciful hour. :eek:

whisky_galore

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Caught a bit of Joe (wash your hands) Duffy today about cervical smear testing for “People with a cervix”. WOKE in the extreme.

Naturally we will have to have "people with prostates".

Bloody HSE getting their priorities right as per usual.

whisky_galore

whisky_galore wrote: »

Naturally we will have to have "people with prostates".

Bloody HSE getting their priorities right as per usual.

Nope. They are still classed as “Men”!

MoonUnit75

bertiebomber wrote: »

when will wokism end? Most people are fed up wit it & see through it , Its worse than Covid. Liberal lefty ****e is over done and everyone sees this. Move on animals lives matter more than any other lives so smoke that !

Jonathon Haidt was saying a year or two ago it will start to fall apart in the next couple of years when the next generation coming up through schools associate it with their bosses, parents and corporate speak. They will start to ridicule it and see right through it.

It definitely won’t age well. It will be like when the hippies were killed off in the mid to late 70s when their children realised their idealistic parents and cultural icons were just superficial hypocrites, soon spawning the visceral anger of the punk generation.

the purple tin

bertiebomber wrote: »

when will wokism end? Most people are fed up wit it & see through it , Its worse than Covid. Liberal lefty ****e is over done and everyone sees this. Move on animals lives matter more than any other lives so smoke that !

The biggest problems are the media and stupid politicians.
The media are giving these morons oxygen every chance they get and stupid politicians go out of their way to pander to them so they can look as right-on and 'down with the kids' as possible (probably trying to pick up some extra votes too).

MoonUnit75

the purple tin wrote: »

The biggest problems are the media and stupid politicians.
The media are giving these morons oxygen every chance they get and stupid politicians go out of their way to pander to them so they can look as right-on and 'down with the kids' as possible (probably trying to pick up some extra votes too).

In a way it’s got an upside. It has been festering under the radar in elite universities for decades and it’s only now being scrutinised in the wider public. The problem is there is little downside for politicians and corporations flirting with the woke cult. The voters and consumers who are ‘woke’ respond well and people with more sense don’t really factor it in to their decisions too aggressively yet. That tide should start to turn, the mythical ‘get woke, go broke’ factor is starting to become a reality as people tire of the constant barrage of bullshlt.

JasonStatham

bertiebomber wrote: »

when will wokism end?!

Probably when they fall asleep.

MoonUnit75

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

Jonathon Haidt was saying a year or two ago it will start to fall apart in the next couple of years when the next generation coming up through schools associate it with their bosses, parents and corporate speak. They will start to ridicule it and see right through it.

Except that it's firmly established in US academia, and mainstream second level schools. It also has a solid foundation with the wave of SJWs who graduated from college, and entered psychology. This isn't going to be ended after one, or two generations. It's too firmly entrenched within US society from the student bodies, through to university administrations. The authorities have given in so often, that there's little chance of any resistance growing for some time yet. Oh sure, some comedians are turning against it, and we are starting to see a rise in anti-wokeness online, but there's a big difference between that, and facing a group of woke SJWs shouting you down.

It definitely won’t age well. It will be like when the hippies were killed off in the mid to late 70s when their children realised their idealistic parents and cultural icons were just superficial hypocrites, soon spawning the visceral anger of the punk generation.

Not really. The woke movement is very much attached to feminism, and racial issues in the US, along with the PC culture that still exists throughout most areas of US society. While I agree, that it won't age well, and will come under ever increasing attacks by more sensible people... it still has a lot of people behind it. People love to show their virtue. To be crusaders against their perceived injustices. Social media will fuel that movement for a long time to come, and frankly, so too will the media. It makes good drama, and people love drama. (although a crippling recession could end it all rather quickly... as people turn to being practical, and applying common sense again)

Sir Oxman

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

Jonathon Haidt was saying a year or two ago it will start to fall apart in the next couple of years when the next generation coming up through schools associate it with their bosses, parents and corporate speak. They will start to ridicule it and see right through it.

It definitely won’t age well. It will be like when the hippies were killed off in the mid to late 70s when their children realised their idealistic parents and cultural icons were just superficial hypocrites, soon spawning the visceral anger of the punk generation.

Good spot.
Haidt's on the button with his previous works too.
The societal damage in it's wake will be huge though.

whisky_galore

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nope. They are still classed as “Men”!

For now.

whisky_galore

bertiebomber wrote: »

Move on animals lives matter more than any other lives so smoke that !

I was a bit dismayed when I saw comments on an article about a cattle boat sinking with just one crew member found alive on a life raft. More people were upset and in mourning about the bloody cattle than the crew.

morebabies

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

Jonathon Haidt was saying a year or two ago it will start to fall apart in the next couple of years when the next generation coming up through schools associate it with their bosses, parents and corporate speak. They will start to ridicule it and see right through it.

It definitely won’t age well. It will be like when the hippies were killed off in the mid to late 70s when their children realised their idealistic parents and cultural icons were just superficial hypocrites, soon spawning the visceral anger of the punk generation.

I hope so, because non compliance to the woke brigade at the moment is resulting in stalking, sackings and death threats.

the purple tin

Very interesting interview with Douglas Murray about the Reading stabbings and how the media tried to play it down...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX8u9-asJpA

The Woke-brigade have said that Murray isn't gay anymore because he has been shining a light on how ridiculous they are.

They say he is now gay 'in name only' :rolleyes:

myshirt

That snooker should be banned due to the imagery of the white ball supremacist going around the table killing off the other balls.

blinding

myshirt wrote: »

That snooker should be banned due to the imagery of the white ball supremacist going around the table killing off the other balls.

And ya Notice that they are always after the Black Ball and chasing it down Holes and ya get more points for getting the Black Ball in the Ball Bag ! !:eek:

blinding

the purple tin wrote: »

Very interesting interview with Douglas Murray about the Reading stabbings and how the media tried to play it down...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX8u9-asJpA

The Woke-brigade have said that Murray isn't gay anymore because he has been shining a light on how ridiculous they are.

They say he is now gay 'in name only' :rolleyes:

Douglas Murray ~ ~ Perhaps the One True Voice of Sanity in the world today ! !

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

blinding wrote: »

Douglas Murray ~ ~ Perhaps the One True Voice of Sanity in the world today ! !

Arrah, I don’t know. He’s interesting and makes some good points but he does have his own blind spots and hobby horses. He’s quite the media whore also.

But I do appreciate that he doesn’t make his being gay front and centre. He rarely mentions it and doesn’t use it to make points.

blinding

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Arrah, I don’t know. He’s interesting and makes some good points but he does have his own blind spots and hobby horses. He’s quite the media whore also.

But I do appreciate that he doesn’t make his being gay front and centre. He rarely mentions it and doesn’t use it to make points.

He is an interesting fella ~ ~ Nobody has to be right on everything not even in 2020 :eek::D:eek::D

topper75

Deleted User wrote: »

Caught a bit of Joe (wash your hands) Duffy today about cervical smear testing for “People with a cervix”. WOKE in the extreme.

I caught that yesterday too. Box office stuff. Some interesting WOKE versus WOKE too at one stage.

A) HSE wokist stupid inclusivity thing taken too far, calling women 'people with a cervix'

V

another wokist concerned about immigrants not being able to speak English well not presenting for screening etc. if they don't see plain language like 'women' (Hello! our system is failing Irish; its purpose isn't to treat blown-in chancers from around the world)

I wouldn't have much sympathy for people like Rowling who was happy enough to live by the woke twitter sword before. Ultimately they just eat their own.

evil_seed

Spotify staff are going on strike in NY because they think Joe Rogan is transphobic.

What utter BS!

Sir Oxman

evil_seed wrote: »

Spotify staff are going on strike in NY because they think Joe Rogan is transphobic.

What utter BS!

Yep, seen something earlier about this.:D
Ten, that's TEN internal 'standup' meetings by the LGBTQAI+/allies (and yes, that's the Spotify internal moniker, no consistency in arguments or bloody abbreviations) employees council or some such sh1t.

The day won't be far away when companies, even the tech giants who revel in this crap, will say to themselves would ya ever fook the fook away!

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

evil_seed wrote: »

Spotify staff are going on strike in NY because they think Joe Rogan is transphobic.

What utter BS!

Oh my word. Joe Rogan has a lot of clout. This won't go well for them.

nthclare

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Oh my word. Joe Rogan has a lot of clout. This won't go well for them.

It'll be an own goal for them.
Shower of losers if that's the straw they're clutching to.

Sure sign these SJW vvankers are going to self implode.

Can't wait for the emergence of subcultures from the liberal crowd.
It'll be some circus, although I've aquainteaes who are SJWs and liberals they're not the worst I'll say that but no way would I talk politics or sociology with them.

FFS where will I get my organic vegetables and fruits from...

Rodney Bathgate

nthclare wrote: »

It'll be an own goal for them.
Shower of losers if that's the straw they're clutching to.

Sure sign these SJW vvankers are going to self implode.

Can't wait for the emergence of subcultures from the liberal crowd.
It'll be some circus, although I've aquainteaes who are SJWs and liberals they're not the worst I'll say that but no way would I talk politics or sociology with them.

FFS where will I get my organic vegetables and fruits from...

Start keeping your faeces and use it to grow your own fruit and veg.

nthclare

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Start keeping your faeces and use it to grow your own fruit and veg.

I've no farm animals at the moment, but thinking of getting a few donkeys.

Rodney Bathgate

nthclare wrote: »

I've no farm animals at the moment, but thinking of getting a few donkeys.

I can post manure down to Clare. Do you use Parcel Motel?

Achebe

People on this site use "woke" like children who discovered a swear word for the first time.

the purple tin

Achebe wrote: »

People on this site use "woke" like children who discovered a swear word for the first time.

Did you not say that before on another thread?
Somebody did anyway, it's even less funny the second time round if you can imagine that.

Achebe

the purple tin wrote: »

Did you not say that before on another thread?
Somebody did anyway, it's even less funny the second time round if you can imagine that.

I did, and somebody linked to this idiotic thread full of old farts loudly not understanding things.

.anon.

Achebe wrote: »

People on this site use "woke" like children who discovered a swear word for the first time.

'Woke' seems to have taken over from 'SJW' as the favourite term of absolute crushing bores. A few decades ago, these people would've been standing on railway platforms in the rain, writing down numbers of trains into a well-thumbed feint-ruled notebook, but the internet has given them lots of new and equally dull shit to obsess over. Hard not to read their posts in a John Major-esque nasal monotone.

the purple tin

Achebe wrote: »

I did, and somebody linked to this idiotic thread full of old farts loudly not understanding things.

Hmmm.
How to respond to this witty and incisive comment...
Oh I know..

EmmetSpiceland

Achebe wrote: »

I did, and somebody linked to this idiotic thread full of old farts loudly not understanding things.

I don’t believe it’s that they don’t understand things, A. It’s really more of a “case” of wilful ignorance.

With a dash of anger and stupidity, of course.

blinding

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Yep, seen something earlier about this.:D
Ten, that's TEN internal 'standup' meetings by the LGBTQAI+/allies (and yes, that's the Spotify internal moniker, no consistency in arguments or bloody abbreviations) employees council or some such sh1t.

The day won't be far away when companies, even the tech giants who revel in this crap, will say to themselves would ya ever fook the fook away!

Its amazing how many of these groups just don’t like Working! !:D:eek:

blinding

Achebe wrote: »

People on this site use "woke" like children who discovered a swear word for the first time.

We Got A Live One:D:eek::D

MoonUnit75

.anon. wrote: »

'Woke' seems to have taken over from 'SJW' as the favourite term of absolute crushing bores. A few decades ago, these people would've been standing on railway platforms in the rain, writing down numbers of trains into a well-thumbed feint-ruled notebook, but the internet has given them lots of new and equally dull shit to obsess over. Hard not to read their posts in a John Major-esque nasal monotone.

Woke hasn't replaced SJW, SJW is the congregation and Woke is the religion. SJWs were using the term 'woke' completely un-ironically about people they admired for expressing their faith in public.

blinding

Achebe wrote: »

I did, and somebody linked to this idiotic thread full of old farts loudly not understanding things.

:D:D

blinding

Achebe wrote: »

I did, and somebody linked to this idiotic thread full of old farts loudly not understanding things.

“ Why doesn’t everybody agree with me about everything ~ ~ meanies " :D

Sir Oxman

Say whaaa'?

.anon.

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

Woke hasn't replaced SJW, SJW is the congregation and Woke is the religion. SJWs were using the term completely unironically about people they admired for expressing their faith in public.

Thanks for the clarification. I always thought 'woke' was a verb, then people (mainly Americans and people who consume too much American stuff) started using it as an adjective, and now it's become a noun - a proper noun, no less. On here though, it has definitely replaced SJW as the favourite overused term of the dullest and most repetitive men on the internet.

.anon.

.anon. wrote: »

Thanks for the clarification. I always thought 'woke' was a verb, then people (mainly Americans and people who consume too much American stuff) started using it as an adjective, and now it's become a noun - a proper noun, no less. On here though, it has definitely replaced SJW as the favourite overused term of the dullest and most repetitive men on the internet.

Impressive. I didn't realise boards counted that much against the internet.

Anyway, SJW is still used a lot. Woke is used to include people who might not, necessarily, be considered SJW. So, it's perhaps a phrase with a wider scope.

Hangdogroad

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I didn't know that Abo was considered offensive. It's a term I use. I'll have to tell my Aussie mates that. They'll probably tell me to **** off 😆

An (Irish) guy I worked with who had spent time in Australia used to say it in a disparaging manner. In fairness he was a genuinely racist and ignorant individual.