Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

Mike Murdock

Count Basie wrote: »

Joss Whedon has been accused of being abusive by a Buffy actress. He's about to be cancelled.

Let this be a lesson to male feminists everywhere, simping won't save you.

Never trust a man that openly christens himself a Male Feminist.

Mike Murdock

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Never trust a man that openly christens himself a Male Feminist.

Yup. Just call yourself a feminist. I don't see many people calling themselves female feminists.

I know quite a few guys who would be feminists. Proper feminists, as opposed to this modern radical feminism crap. They're not simping or looking for attention. It's just what they believe in, which is grand.

Whereas I'm more of an egalitarian (although I'm aware of the problems/limitations with that viewpoint too)

conorhal

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Never trust a man that openly christens himself a Male Feminist.

As soon as you hear 'I'm a male feminist and ally of women' you can pretty much start the countdown to a #meetoo moment....

stefanovich

conorhal wrote: »

As soon as you hear 'I'm a male feminist and ally of women' you can pretty much start the countdown to a #meetoo moment....

I wonder do tactics like this actually have success? How often does your average male feminist get laid?

Quazzie

LINK

"A hospital trust has become the first in the UK to adopt gender inclusive language for its perinatal services, including referring to "breast/chestfeeding" and "human milk".

No matter how much I tried to chestfeed my son, it appears only my wife could do it as she was the one with breasts. I didn't realise it was possible to get milk from a chest.

1800_Ladladlad

Quazzie wrote: »

LINK



No matter how much I tried to chestfeed my son, it appears only my wife could do it as she was the one with breasts. I didn't realise it was possible to get milk from a chest.

Other changes include referring to the "co-parent" or "second biological parent".

As in the Father ..... It's the end of the world as we know it.

Mike Murdock

conorhal wrote: »

As soon as you hear 'I'm a male feminist and ally of women' you can pretty much start the countdown to a #meetoo moment....

Example: The King of Woke World Leaders: Justin Trudeau

The editorial asked: "Shouldn't the son of a former prime minister be aware of the rights and wrongs that go along with public socialising? Didn't he learn, through his vast experiences in public life, that groping a strange young woman isn't in the handbook of proper etiquette, regardless of who she is, what her business is or where they are?'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/justin-trudeau-canada-sexual-harassment-female-reporter-creston-british-columbia-a8428201.html

WrenBoy

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

As in the Father ..... It's the end of the world as we know it.

"Happy anniversary of Emergence offspring! "

"Thank you, second biological parent"

jam_mac_jam

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

People who say there is no cancel culture make me irrationality angry. It's just lying right to my face. How can you even argue with it.

If you are going to do something at least admit to it. Stop lying all the time.

It's like how the SJW types call those who believe white people will be outnumbered in the US or London in the future "paranoid" and "deranged" and pour scorn and condescension on them.

Then you read news articles after every Census that celebrates the "browning of America" and featuring all demographic projections that prove that whites will be a minority in 10/20 years (whatever it is).

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I saw a girl eating a Yorkie bar today

I'm frightened

I'm hungry. Mmmmm Yorkie........

Invidious

Deleted User wrote: »

I know quite a few guys who would be feminists. Proper feminists, as opposed to this modern radical feminism crap. They're not simping or looking for attention. It's just what they believe in, which is grand.

I'm happy to support women's rights where needed, as they definitely still are in many parts of the world. Honor killings? Female genital mutilation? Forced marriage? Denying education to girls or the vote to women? Sure, count me in as opposing such practices on humanitarian grounds.

But nobody could convince me that women in a modern Western country like Ireland are "oppressed by the patriarchy." The only reason these claims continue is that many women are making a good living perpetuating such nonsense via academia or through NGOs. Modern feminism has become a lucrative cottage industry, but its claims have little basis in lived reality when it comes to the West. When you see the Guardian publishing women's rights pieces like "Is it legal for your boss to make you wear a bra to work?" then you know the bottom of the barrel is being scraped.

MisterAnarchy

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gizmodo/status/1359701272409047041

Abhorrent, unacceptable and anti semitic comments it seems

Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views,” she wrote.

There is nothing wrong with calling Trump a Nazi though or all his supporters racist white supremacists

randd1

Invidious wrote: »

I'm happy to support women's rights where needed, as they definitely still are in many parts of the world. Honor killings? Female genital mutilation? Forced marriage? Denying education to girls or the vote to women? Sure, count me in as opposing such practices on humanitarian grounds.

But nobody could convince me that women in a modern Western country like Ireland are "oppressed by the patriarchy." The only reason these claims continue is that many women are making a good living perpetuating such nonsense via academia or through NGOs. Modern feminism has become a lucrative cottage industry, but its claims have little basis in lived reality when it comes to a country like Ireland.

Quite the opposite in some cases in fact. In many ways modern society is set up for women.

- Most public sector jobs are filled by women because of the benefits it offers in regards to family life.
- Most people doing social science course at third level are women and are encouraged to do them. However, these courses tend to need a public pay packet as most of the qualifications are useless in the private sector.
- Fathers are usually treated worse than the mothers by the authorities in matters around children.
- Men are likelier to do more time than women for the same criminal offence.

Most of the feminism/oppressed by the patriarchy nonsense of today is peddled by people who make money off of it.

I would also say most women are smart enough to ignore it for the crap talk it is. Any woman I know has no real time for it, mostly because when they get passed their college years and join the real world they learn to think for themselves, and realise blaming the patriarchy isn't going to keep a roof over your head or food in your belly. You can afford to think like that when Mammy and Daddy are picking up the bill.

Mike Murdock

Invidious wrote: »

I'm happy to support women's rights where needed, as they definitely still are in many parts of the world. Honor killings? Female genital mutilation? Forced marriage? Denying education to girls or the vote to women? Sure, count me in as opposing such practices on humanitarian grounds.

But nobody could convince me that women in a modern Western country like Ireland are "oppressed by the patriarchy." The only reason these claims continue is that many women are making a good living perpetuating such nonsense via academia or through NGOs. Modern feminism has become a lucrative cottage industry, but its claims have little basis in lived reality when it comes to the West. When you see the Guardian publishing women's rights pieces like "Is it legal for your boss to make you wear a bra to work?" then you know the bottom of the barrel is being scraped.

There are now more women than men working in Law, Medicine and Pharmacology. Professions traditionally dominated by men.

Patriarchy my ass.

And yet the grifters compare Ireland to ****ing Gilead...

RandRuns

randd1 wrote: »

Quite the opposite in some cases in fact. In many ways modern society is set up for women.

- Most public sector jobs are filled by women because of the benefits it offers in regards to family life.
- Most people doing social science course at third level are women and are encouraged to do them. However, these courses tend to need a public pay packet as most of the qualifications are useless in the private sector.
- Fathers are usually treated worse than the mothers by the authorities in matters around children.
- Men are likelier to do more time than women for the same criminal offence.

Most of the feminism/oppressed by the patriarchy nonsense of today is peddled by people who make money off of it.

I would also say most women are smart enough to ignore it for the crap talk it is. Any woman I know has no real time for it, mostly because when they get passed their college years and join the real world they learn to think for themselves, and realise blaming the patriarchy isn't going to keep a roof over your head or food in your belly. You can afford to think like that when Mammy and Daddy are picking up the bill.

I was at a meeting recently between a local authority, an engineering company, a main contractor, and some funders. All attendees would have been senior management and technical people.
Of the 12 people attending, 9 were women.

It's a similar story in most large engineering & construction projects at the upper management and engineering level.
Yet when you walk out on the site, all the hard manual jobs (with lower wages) are almost exclusively men.

Feminism has a blind spot when it comes to real equality - they will complain constantly that board rooms, engineers, managers, etc. still have a higher percentage of men (ignoring the percentage that are actually being appointed now), but they'll never complain about the lack of equality in building laborers, block layers, or plasterers.

Mike Murdock

RandRuns wrote: »

I was at a meeting recently between a local authority, an engineering company, a main contractor, and some funders. All attendees would have been senior management and technical people.
Of the 12 people attending, 9 were women.

It's a similar story in most large engineering & construction projects at the upper management and engineering level.
Yet when you walk out on the site, all the hard manual jobs (with lower wages) are almost exclusively men.

Feminism has a blind spot when it comes to real equality - they will complain constantly that board rooms, engineers, managers, etc. still have a higher percentage of men (ignoring the percentage that are actually being appointed now), but they'll never complain about the lack of equality in building laborers, block layers, or plasterers.

Feminism is now about Selective Equality.

MisterAnarchy

RandRuns wrote: »

It's a similar story in most large engineering & construction projects at the upper management and engineering level.
Yet when you walk out on the site, all the hard manual jobs (with lower wages) are almost exclusively men.

That goes someway towards explaining why most projects in this country run way over budget and behind schedule.

BattleCorp

I can't see any sense in the language used in the link below.

The hospital said "We are on a journey towards gender inclusive care for everybody during pregnancy, birth and afterwards." On a journey to stupidity more like.

No need to be inventing stupid terminology.

Birthing people = women
Chestfeeders = brest feeding = women

https://news.sky.com/story/hospital-trust-becomes-first-in-uk-to-adopt-gender-inclusive-language-for-perinatal-services-12214018

jam_mac_jam

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

That goes someway towards explaining why most projects in this country run way over budget and behind schedule.

You are undermining the point somewhat there that there is so sexism.

Mike Murdock

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

That goes someway towards explaining why most projects in this country run way over budget and behind schedule.

Projects in this country have been going way over budget and behind schedule for decades.

Nothing to do with Women - just collective bad strategic planning and the "It'll do" mentality of the country.

RandRuns

RandRuns wrote: »

Feminism has a blind spot when it comes to real equality.

Feminism is not about equality. It's not a blind spot. Feminism relates to women's rights... The claim to equality is a PR stunt to make their demands more reasonable, but it's simple propaganda. History has shown that each time actual equality has been reached, they've marched past it expecting more rights, supports and more protections.

Paddigol

LOLZ at all the poor snowflakes in this thread triggered by those horrible nasty dangerous woke types. Is there anything worse than a bitter snowflake? Gimme a woke-ist any day.

stefanovich

Paddigol wrote: »

LOLZ at all the poor snowflakes in this thread triggered by those horrible nasty dangerous woke types. Is there anything worse than a bitter snowflake? Gimme a woke-ist any day.

Being mean and being woke appear to manifest in the same individuals.

Cordell

Paddigol wrote: »

LOLZ at all the poor snowflakes in this thread triggered by those horrible nasty dangerous woke types. Is there anything worse than a bitter snowflake? Gimme a woke-ist any day.

Wokies only come in bitter snowflake flavour. The only time you can see a wokie being happy is when a conservative minded person had its life destroyed.

MisterAnarchy

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

You are undermining the point somewhat there that there is so sexism.

I was being sarcastic. :rolleyes:

RandRuns

Paddigol wrote: »

LOLZ at all the poor snowflakes in this thread triggered by those horrible nasty dangerous woke types. Is there anything worse than a bitter snowflake? Gimme a woke-ist any day.

Howya Emma, we missed you.

MisterAnarchy

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Projects in this country have been going way over budget and behind schedule for decades.

Nothing to do with Women - just collective bad strategic planning and the "It'll do" mentality of the country.

Plus the brown envelope culture

stefanovich

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Plus the brown envelope culture

And complete disregard for the taxpayer from our elected superiors.

conorhal

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Feminism is now about Selective Equality.

It's equality for me but not for thee.


You'll also never hear about the need for gender quotas in the teaching profession, which is overwhelmingly female, and one place a 50/50 quota would be beneficial to young boys.

Paddigol

Paddigol wrote: »

Is there anything worse than a bitter snowflake? Gimme a woke-ist any day.

Yeah, I can think of something a lot worse. A person who dismisses the negative changes in society until its far too late to do anything about it, and then complains that nobody warned them of the possible dangers. Oh, no, these changes will never affect someone like you.. until they do.

I find the willful ignorance far more contemptible. The assumption that the people who engage in activism will stop when they've achieved their goals. History has shown that very few causes or activism stops when it's primary goals are reached, and tend to extend into further changes, since they've gained the momentum.

But hey, nobody is asking you to accept us bitter snowflakes. (Although I have no idea what I'm supposed to be bitter about.. since none of those arguing/bitching against us, has managed anything like a coherent argument)

Paddigol

Paddigol wrote: »

LOLZ at all the poor snowflakes in this thread triggered by those horrible nasty dangerous woke types. Is there anything worse than a bitter snowflake? Gimme a woke-ist any day.

Tbf its as much craic watching the anti-woke getting worked up over harmless enough stuff aswell



One time,it was woke,who were silly and put out by pointless stuff,seems gone full circle and nearly every bit as irrational on far side now.

BattleCorp

Deleted User wrote: »

Tbf its as much craic watching the anti-woke getting worked up over harmless enough stuff aswell

One time,it was woke,who were silly and put out by pointless stuff,seems gone full circle every bit as irrational on far side now.

Ah sh1t's going too far.

People will be fired/sued for using the wrong pronoun the way things are going. The auld lad leading the Olympics is going to have to resign for saying that meetings involving women go on too long. Funny yeah, but on the other hand, it's someone losing their job for saying something harmless.

JeffreyEpspeen

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gizmodo/status/1359701272409047041

What is wrong with what she said?

BattleCorp

BattleCorp wrote: »

Ah sh1t's going too far.

People will be fired/sued for using the wrong pronoun the way things are going. The auld lad leading the Olympics is going to have to resign for saying that meetings involving women go on too long. Funny yeah, but on the other hand, it's someone losing their job for saying something harmless.

Sh1te like that is too far (seriously dont understand,whole.pronoun thing).

But from what i seen,the scottish rugby last weekend some took knee (pointless imo!!) and some didnt.....

The only people i seen discuss it online were anti-woke folk,who got worked up over a preceived large scale backlash about to occur,that simply didnt happen

If they find emselves imagining up scenarios to get outraged about,i feel them presenting as anti-woke is then a form of satire.......and no harm,if it is

Biker79

Paddigol wrote: »

LOLZ at all the poor snowflakes in this thread triggered by those horrible nasty dangerous woke types. Is there anything worse than a bitter snowflake? Gimme a woke-ist any day.

You could power a small town with the bitterness and rancour from a handful of Wokies.

Also, Boots are doing a 2 for 1 special on blue hair dye. You're welcome.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

If they find emselves imagining up scenarios to get outraged about,i feel them presenting as anti-woke is then a form of satire.......and no harm,if it is

Well, here's the thing. I don't get all worked up over the woke stuff. I've noticed people tend to throw that around, like we're all frothing at the mouth. Outrage. Hysterical. All descriptions intended discredit people. There's little requirement on being passionate if you wish to oppose something. TBH, that's more the case with the woke activists, who scream their opposition. (which is well documented in videos online.. far less so with those who oppose the woke movements)

I oppose this woke nonsense because it has been changing societies, and in turn, has real life consequences for people. While it's presence hasn't been felt much in Ireland yet, it does exist in other countries. It's well established in the US, and has made inroads into the UK. Both of which are nations, that tend to have a lot of influence on Irish culture over time. The reaction to BLM in Ireland and Europe has been a fair sign of that..

I don't need to imagine or create fantasies about how this woke stuff will affect society, because I can simply look at the US, or look at some of the policies or sponsored initiatives put forward by various governments. Whether it's the requirements on pronouns, the Trans 'debate', or whatever. There's plenty of choose from that exists in the world.. without needing to be created by us.

Cyclonius

Biker79 wrote: »

You could power a small town with the bitterness and rancour from a handful of Wokies. True story.

Also, Boots are doing a 2 for 1 special on blue hair dye. You're welcome.

Regarding the wokies, I always assumed that the hair dye had seeped into the brain somewhat...

Do we really want to leave them worse with the 2 for 1 special?

Sir Oxman

The Critical Drinker bang on the money again re- the cowardly, obnoxious cancel culture (that definitely doesn't exist and if you say so yer a nazi) from the horrible, wokey crowd.
Great storyboard for a film too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha9gO_i8B-g

Rothko

Sir Oxman wrote: »

The Critical Drinker bang on the money again re- the cowardly, obnoxious cancel culture (that definitely doesn't exist and if you say so yer a nazi) from the horrible, wokey crowd.
Great storyboard for a film too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha9gO_i8B-g

Brilliant.

stefanovich

Article in the journal (comments disabled) about trans children in Ireland not having access to “treatment”.
Entire article littered with made up words and terminology.
Scary.

COVID

stefanovich wrote: »

Article in the journal (comments disabled) about trans children in Ireland not having access to “treatment”.
Entire article littered with made up words and terminology.
Scary.

Finnegans Woke!

ingalway

stefanovich wrote: »

Article in the journal (comments disabled) about trans children in Ireland not having access to “treatment”.
Entire article littered with made up words and terminology.
Scary.

All articles in the journal that are trans related always have the comments turned off. No one is allowed any wrong thought/speak. Imagine if someone said that puberty blockers are not reversible, that most 'trans' children are perfectly fine as they are and many may eventually realise they are gay or not gay. If someone said that Self ID is a ridiculous thing or that trans identifying males should never be allowed to compete in female sports let alone be in the showers with them. Imagine that people were allowed to freely respond.

ingalway

ingalway wrote: »

All articles in the journal that are trans related always have the comments turned off. No one is allowed any wrong thought/speak. Imagine if someone said that puberty blockers are not reversible, that most 'trans' children are perfectly fine as they are and many may eventually realise they are gay or not gay. If someone said that Self ID is a ridiculous thing or that trans identifying males should never be allowed to compete in female sports let alone be in the showers with them. Imagine that people were allowed to freely respond.

I don't think it would change anything... these kind of journalists (like most politicians) are more interested in what they, themselves, think... than what other people do. Especially when it comes to the Internet, where it's easy to dismiss opinions as being extreme.

We really need to be voicing our objections offline in the real world if we want anything to change. It's how the woke movement became successful.. before when they were solely online (or on university campuses), it was easy to dismiss them, but they've since spread to the media, and protesting/marching, making themselves be heard, irrespective of the dismissal of most people thinking them to be loony. It works.

The Trans debate is the perfect example of this because there is no actual debate going on. Protests/marches, and media articles are making a seriously small issue into a major one, which has gained remarkable recognition in the last few years.

Dyr

stefanovich wrote: »

Article in the journal (comments disabled) about trans children in Ireland not having access to “treatment”.
Entire article littered with made up words and terminology.
Scary.

Dont go near the journal is the answer there

JeffreyEpspeen

https://www.thecut.com/2021/02/game-of-thrones-actor-esme-bianco-marilyn-manson.html

Read all of this and there are so many red flags about her accusations. The definition of what consent entails seems to change on a monthly basis.

stefanovich

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with calling Trump a Nazi though or all his supporters racist white supremacists

He’s well liked in Israel for a Nazi

Kivaro

stefanovich wrote: »

He’s well liked in Israel for a Nazi

It's very odd. I see one commentator compare the woke left and the rest of society as that of intelligence versus stupidity.

Kivaro

Interesting article on the New York Times on how France is trying to reject the woke culture imported from the USA. It states: "Politicians and prominent intellectuals say social theories from the United States on race, gender and post-colonialism are a threat to French identity and the French republic." French intellectuals have now joined together to speak out against: "what they regard as contamination by the out-of-control woke leftism of American campuses and its attendant cancel culture."

Unfortunately this contamination has reached Irish shores with great speed, but I do not really hear our Irish intellectuals or politicians (no great surprise) speaking out about this cancel culture. There is the fear here that if you do speak out, you will be cancelled, even though this woke contamination is almost as bad as the other virus doing the rounds currently.

Count Basie

Count Basie wrote: »

But Jews are even more protected than women.

As they should be.
I see the common thread of victim-claiming among the woke and "anti-woke" unfortunately. The "anti-woke" claim to acknowledge that we're not all equal/the same yet complain when that plays out. When it comes to Jews there was a concerted effort to wipe them out less than a century ago, nations across an entire continent turned their backs (and far worse even aside from the Germans) on them and were prepared to allow a culture present in Europe longer than Christianity to be completely erased.
So yeah, Jews are more protected than women and anyone who has a problem with that can either **** off or grow up.

As for Carano, she was generally being an arsehole. She was likely warned but continued on. Fair enough, her choice. Posting conspiracies (ticking the boxes for the pandemic and the election) is a nonsense and the comparing poor little Republicans to the Jews who were destroyed in their millions less than a century ago is a pathetic. Anyone who doesn't (or pretends to not) see the issue with her tweets can also **** off.

Ash.J.Williams

i agree that neckties are a phallic symbol that literally scream "look at my immense penis" and have no place in modern society