Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

biko

John and Yoko waiting for the maid to finish changing their sheets so they could get back to the hard work of protesting the establishment elite.

Cordell

Rage Against the Machine topped that and pretty much everything else.

The members of Rage Against the Machine are well known for their leftist anti-authoritarian and revolutionary political views

It's so easy to be all that while making millions. They're the original wokies, since before it was cool.

jaxxx

Some hospitals in the UK are advising their midwives not to use the term "breast feeding" or "breast milk" anymore, instead to use "chest feeding" in order to not upset some snowflakes.. .. .. FFS kill me now. NOW!

Last I checked: WE ALL HAD BREASTS! FFS!

biko

A English senior civil servant is suing for sex and race discrimination because he was paid £52,000 a year less than a black female colleague in the same job.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/02/17/white-civil-servant-sues-after-learning-black-female-colleague-was-paid-52000-more-14094624/

It's not her fault though
Wendy Williams had been hired on £185,791, despite at first accepting £165,000.
A white man had just been taken on at the higher rate, so offering her less was deemed to ‘risk a legal challenge on grounds of discrimination’, a tribunal heard.

Invidious

So it's a legal risk if the black woman is paid less, but not if the white man is paid less? Interesting...

Kivaro

Invidious wrote: »

So it's a legal risk if the black woman is paid less, but not if the white man is paid less? Interesting...

My head hurts trying to understand this insanity.

MisterAnarchy

What a lovely chap

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9268585/NYC-principal-sent-parents-pamphlet-asking-rate-whiteness.html

New York principal sends parents pamphlet asking them to rate their 'whiteness' and urging them to be 'white traitors' who 'dismantle institutions'

The '8 White Identities' graphic includes a colored meter ranging from red to green, indicating that those who identify in tiers including white supremacists are bad and those who identify as white abolitionists are good.

jam_mac_jam

Dismantling whiteness? That's pretty dark. How camps? Or just shoot them in the street?

Imagine getting that back from your child's school.

Danzy

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

What a lovely chap

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9268585/NYC-principal-sent-parents-pamphlet-asking-rate-whiteness.html

New York principal sends parents pamphlet asking them to rate their 'whiteness' and urging them to be 'white traitors' who 'dismantle institutions'

The '8 White Identities' graphic includes a colored meter ranging from red to green, indicating that those who identify in tiers including white supremacists are bad and those who identify as white abolitionists are good.

This is Pol Pot killing Fields insanity.

Cordell

Dismantling whiteness - sure I guess we don't really need science and medicine and democracy and civilization...

silverharp

^^

A black racist by the looks of it, with a protected account lol, must had got some push back

https://twitter.com/barnor_hesse

jam_mac_jam

A teacher telling a child that their race or the values of their race need to abolished is horrific.

It would be horrible if you are saying it about black people or Jewish people or men, so it's horrible when you say it about white people.

You can't criticise people for things that they cannot control like their race or sex or eye colour. I would have thought that would be completely obvious and certainly not something that I would be teaching children.

If that came home to my house I would be so furious. You try and teach your kids not to treat people differently and they teach that in school.

Salvation Tambourine

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

A teacher telling a child that their race or the values of their race need to abolished is horrific.

It would be horrible if you are saying it about black people or Jewish people or men, so it's horrible when you say it about white people.

You can't criticise people for things that they cannot control like their race or sex or eye colour. I would have thought that would be completely obvious and certainly not something that I would be teaching children.

If that came home to my house I would be so furious. You try and teach your kids not to treat people differently and they teach that in school.

https://www.educatetogether.ie/news/anti-racism-in-our-schools/

This is on the Educate Together website. The first line is

“Hi, my name is Laura and I’m privileged“ – how many conversations start this way? Very few, if any, but they should, particularly if we are about to share our opinion on something that we have little or no experience of, such as racism

I didn't read the whole thing, it may have some good information on there but had to stop here;

Social media can also provide an opportunity to tap into the experiences of people from a range of ethnic backgrounds and identities living in Ireland. Here are some examples:

Dr Ebun Joseph @EbunJoseph1...

I find it quite worrying that a school known for having a wide variety of religions & ethnicities would go down this path of highlighting privilege rather than let children learn that their classmates whether they are Brazilian, Indian, Nigerian, Irish or English are all just their classmates. They are also just children going to school, all the same. Instead Sarah is told that she is different to Xi Lang because she's got a different skin colour.

Rothko

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

What a lovely chap

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9268585/NYC-principal-sent-parents-pamphlet-asking-rate-whiteness.html

New York principal sends parents pamphlet asking them to rate their 'whiteness' and urging them to be 'white traitors' who 'dismantle institutions'

The '8 White Identities' graphic includes a colored meter ranging from red to green, indicating that those who identify in tiers including white supremacists are bad and those who identify as white abolitionists are good.

Stuff like that makes me think that some people must be living in a parallel universe or something. Seriously, wtf?

WrenBoy

Nokotan wrote: »

https://www.educatetogether.ie/news/anti-racism-in-our-schools/

This is on the Educate Together website. The first line is



I didn't read the whole thing, it may have some good information on there but had to stop here;



I find it quite worrying that a school known for having a wide variety of religions & ethnicities would go down this path of highlighting privilege rather than let children learn that their classmates whether they are Brazilian, Indian, Nigerian, Irish or English are all just their classmates. They are also just children going to school, all the same. Instead Sarah is told that she is different to Xi Lang because she's got a different skin colour.

People that site advises people to learn from on Social Media, Top of the list
1. Ebun Joseph
2. Hazel Chu

I cant imagine these ideas wont filter down to kids in the classroom.

Elmo

Nokotan wrote: »

I find it quite worrying that a school known for having a wide variety of religions & ethnicities would go down this path of highlighting privilege rather than let children learn that their classmates whether they are Brazilian, Indian, Nigerian, Irish or English are all just their classmates. They are also just children going to school, all the same. Instead Sarah is told that she is different to Xi Lang because she's got a different skin colour.

Educate Together are atheist schools, they aren't actually about Educating Together. (This isn't a bad thing but I am just calling a spade a spade, in the same when I went to a Catholic-ish school, we had RE that was about it).

Much of this isn't bad to learn about but most children (I am not talking about Teenagers) don't really care about many of these issues because they are children. It also is very black and white.

It's also very bad to suggest to predominately mixed schools to seek out an experience of racism or of disablism.

White privilege is just not something that exists in Ireland, and many people come from unprivileged backgrounds, due to their class or where they come from. It is really snobbery.

To me this is very much an American import, important in America because of the race divide, but less so in other countries.

biko

Baltimore activist's idea to bring down murder rate: pay killers not to kill
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/city-in-crisis/a-baltimore-activists-idea-to-bring-down-murder-rate-pay-killers-not-to-kill

But it’s been tried before, in Richmond, California, the city tracked who they identified as the most likely to shoot or be shot
and gave them cash. The city saw its lowest murder rate in over 30 years.

So threaten to kill = get paid.

Invidious

Nokotan wrote: »

This is on the Educate Together website.

That is absolutely insane. Teaching Irish kids aged 5 to 12 to recognize their own white privilege? And we the taxpayers are funding this nonsense?

My friends' children attend an Educate Together school. Their parents are currently unemployed. But their eldest daughter has a school friend whose father is a Sudanese doctor. According to the logic laid out here, the girl with the white unemployed parents who can't currently pay their mortgage is more "privileged" than the daughter of a financially well-off doctor? Nonsense, honestly.

MisterAnarchy

Rothko wrote: »

Stuff like that makes me think that some people must be living in a parallel universe or something. Seriously, wtf?

If a professor in a college came out with those documents 10-15 years ago not only would they be sacked and never get a job in academia again but the police would probably be consulted and also the local asylum.

Nowadays it will earn you a promotion.

1800_Ladladlad

Im losing the will ......



knj bhbj

Biafranlivemat

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Im losing the will ......



knj bhbj

Yet another reason to De fund RTE.

I don’t think Ashley O’Donoghue knows what equality of outcome means. Unless she’s on median wage she’s not living it either.

Sir Oxman

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Im losing the will ......



knj bhbj

I was hopeful for a second that at least they were using equality instead of equity then they actually said equality of outcome.

Danzy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don’t think Ashley O’Donoghue knows what equality of outcome means. Unless she’s on median wage she’s not living it either.

No one who thinks that Woke is on anything like the median wage.

It screams out 6 figure income.

kildare lad

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Im losing the will ......



knj bhbj

I hope she pushes for a better gender balance so there are more female bin men or bin persons as they should be called . I'm sick to death of men outside in all weather collecting rubbish while women don't get a look in . And while they're at it I hope to see more black bin persons collecting rubbish in the future , The racist and sexist bias of only employing white men screams of privilege and must be ended right now .

RandRuns

Danzy wrote: »

No one who thinks that Woke is on anything like the median wage.

It screams out 6 figure income.

It's even stranger than that - loads of the permanently unemployed arts degree types are woke - if fact it seems most of them are. I'm not sure if they realise that the policies they support will keep them that way.

kildare lad

kildare lad wrote: »

I hope she pushes for a better gender balance so there are more female bin men or bin persons as they should be called . I'm sick to death of men outside in all weather collecting rubbish while women don't get a look in . And while they're at it I hope to see more black bin persons collecting rubbish in the future , The racist and sexist bias of only employing white men screams of privilege and must be ended right now .

I would really like to hear how these "equality uber allas" people would react to a rural job offering and all the candidates are white males as only local white males applied, no females (they didn't like the thought of doing that job) no people of other ethnic backgrounds (none in the area).
It seems that common sense escapes some people.

Wibbs

Deleted User wrote: »

I would really like to hear how these "equality uber allas" people would react to a rural job offering

90% of these eejits are urban, usually suburban, usually middle class, usually White, usually women, with "careers" either funded by family money, or in universities, or corporate middle management HR departments. For all their talk of "privilege" they're about the single most protected and cosseted demographic on the planet. It's why you hear them come out with guff like "microaggressions" and the like, they're so cosseted from actual aggression even the slightest thing gets them reacting, or they need to invent such things to feel they're "victims". A rural job wouldn't even register, much like rural areas themselves save for the family weekend holiday home in Wicklow.

Salvation Tambourine

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Im losing the will ......

It seems like all that could be boiled down to "Hire someone and treat them well"

She also seems to think all recruitment staff are probably male because we need quotas to stop them hiring people similar to them. Where I work there are five recruiters and four or them are female. The manger is female. So do we need male quotas to counteract those bias? Obviously not but in other circumstances it seems it's an absolute requirement.

Gruffalux

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Im losing the will ......



knj bhbj

This is Bullshyte. I cannot bring my ''authentic and true self to work''. Right now I am wearing a huge long cardigan that looks like Joseph's coat of many colours, baggy hareem pants of rainbow hues, and my hair is in a big tangled bun on the top of me head. I can assure you I do not bring ''my authentic and true self'' to work when I have to go in :pac:

storker

WrenBoy wrote: »

People that site advises people to learn from on Social Media, Top of the list
1. Ebun Joseph
2. Hazel Chu

I cant imagine these ideas wont filter down to kids in the classroom.

Expecting someone to start a conversation with an acknowledgement of their race and an acceptance that because they are of that race, their opinions must be given less weight. We are now so far down the rabbit hole that we're likely to hit magma very soon.

(Isn't it odd how "anti-racists" seem to bang on about race more than...you know...actual racists...?)

rightmove

thats some article. I suppose its hard pretending to be a victim whilst being able to write in the main national broadcaster. So the article is written by a woman and the picture related to it is primarily women and a man or two in the corner (pushed to one side). But lets keep the show on the road....Give us a break! I think there should be more diversity on the trawlers leaving killybegs. Or maybe more women in sewers. i never hear the woke crowd asking to rename manholes to something gender neutral. Funny THAT

Rodney Bathgate

WrenBoy wrote: »

People that site advises people to learn from on Social Media, Top of the list
1. Ebun Joseph
2. Hazel Chu

I cant imagine these ideas wont filter down to kids in the classroom.

Race baiting grifters.

RandRuns

rightmove wrote: »

i never hear the woke crowd asking to rename manholes to something gender neutral. Funny THAT

Ya think.......?

Berkeley California bans manholes, manpower, and fireman

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I would really like to hear how these "equality uber allas" people would react to a rural job offering and all the candidates are white males as only local white males applied, no females (they didn't like the thought of doing that job) no people of other ethnic backgrounds (none in the area).
It seems that common sense escapes some people.

This wasn't the exact example of what I was thinking when I posted the message above, but someone comes along and advocates it!

rightmove wrote: »

thats some article. I suppose its hard pretending to be a victim whilst being able to write in the main national broadcaster. So the article is written by a woman and the picture related to it is primarily women and a man or two in the corner (pushed to one side). But lets keep the show on the road....Give us a break! I think there should be more diversity on the trawlers leaving killybegs. Or maybe more women in sewers. i never hear the woke crowd asking to rename manholes to something gender neutral. Funny THAT

Are you seriously suggesting that a Killybegs boat owner leaves a vacancy open until he can "fill his quota!"

RandRuns

One of the interesting aspects of the above Berkeley decision is that, like a lot of this rubbish, it was driven by (now fromer) California Governor Jerry Brown. Brown is a perfect example of where the left has completely lost it's head over the past few decades.
When he was first elected Governor of California in the 1970's, the left hated him, and saw him as a right-wing fascist. So much so, that he is the subject of the famous Dead Kennedys song California Über Alles, which paints him as fascist dictator, who will take over the United States.
Despite being a Democrat, Brown blocked further Vietnamese immigrants from coming to California, famously saying “There is something a little strange about saying ‘Let’s bring in 500,000 more people’ when we can’t take care of the 1 million (Californians) out of work.”
His environemental and fiscal policies were seen at the time as akin to those of the Third Reich, and frequently compared to them.
Yet over the years since then, the left has fallen in love with Brown and his policies, so much so that they relected him in 2011.

A man whom the left considered a far-right fascist in the 80's, was considered a bastion of mainstream left opinion by 2011, despite not changing his main policies. Says it all.

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

90% of these eejits are urban, usually suburban, usually middle class, usually White, usually women, with "careers" either funded by family money, or in universities, or corporate middle management HR departments. For all their talk of "privilege" they're about the single most protected and cosseted demographic on the planet. It's why you hear them come out with guff like "microaggressions" and the like, they're so cosseted from actual aggression even the slightest thing gets them reacting, or they need to invent such things to feel they're "victims". A rural job wouldn't even register, much like rural areas themselves save for the family weekend holiday home in Wicklow.

Yup.
Looking at the wokies on my FB page...
Chick fecked off to Canada in her 20s, married, divorced (likely did well out of it), came home, settled with someone else who has his own business and she raises her kids all "natural". Nice when you don't need to worry about money.
Chick left Ireland about 10 years ago to move to SE Asia. Lives ling a queen among peasants because she's white. Doesn't seem to see any issue with that.
I saw posts in the last few days from one of them and unfollowed. I've unfollowed the vast majority of people I'm friends with on Facebook.

Actually reminds me of likely the best one. Flitted through college (was super smart, like could have got 550 in the LC type smart), wants to work in acting and such nonsense. Moved away (not too far), over the years has posted looking for somewhere to crash for a while, petitions about drama people not being paid enough in the new country she's in. Oh and the kicker, literally went to clown college at one point.

It's mostly people who either don't want to grow up or never need to.

kildare lad

RandRuns wrote: »

Ya think.......?

Berkeley California bans manholes, manpower, and fireman

"In recent years, broadening societal awareness of transgender and gendernonconforming identities has brought to light the importance of non-binary gender inclusivity,"

And that's the reason you cant use the word manholes in Berkeley anymore. These people are on another planet .

kildare lad

kildare lad wrote: »

"In recent years, broadening societal awareness of transgender and gendernonconforming identities has brought to light the importance of non-binary gender inclusivity,"

And that's the reason you cant use the word manholes in Berkeley anymore. These people are on another planet .

While at the same time forgetting that the "man" in manhole is short for "maintenance", "mainhole" has a completely different meaning!

biko

Deleted User wrote: »

While at the same time forgetting that the "man" in manhole is short for "maintenance", "mainhole" has a completely different meaning!

Amen, and awoman, to that

rightmove

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you seriously suggesting that a Killybegs boat owner leaves a vacancy open until he can "fill his quota!"

being a fisherMAN he should be used to dealing with quotas

rightmove

kildare lad wrote: »

"In recent years, broadening societal awareness of transgender and gendernonconforming identities has brought to light the importance of non-binary gender inclusivity,"

And that's the reason you cant use the word manholes in Berkeley anymore. These people are on another planet .

Honestly they must have nathin to thinking about. !!!!

https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2021/0219/1198128-mi6-apology/

The chief of Britain's Secret Intelligence Service, MI6, has issued a public apology for the agency's past treatment of LGBT+ people.

Richard Moore said that a security bar on LGBT+ individuals serving in the intelligence agencies, which remained in place until 1991, was "wrong, unjust and discriminatory".

....

Although same-sex relationships were decriminalised in 1967, the ban on LGBT+ people serving in the agencies and the diplomatic service stayed following a series of Cold War spy scandals.

Two of the Cambridge spies, Guy Burgess and Anthony Blunt, were gay while a third, Donald Maclean, may have been bisexual.

Mr Moore said it was down to a "misguided" belief that LGBT+ people were more susceptible to blackmail.

The last line is a clear example of history being rewritten, back in the 60s through to the 80s being gay still had a real stigma attached to it and it was most certainly a lever that can be (and was) used to blackmail civil servants into providing information to the opposition.

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yup.
Looking at the wokies on my FB page...
Chick fecked off to Canada in her 20s, married, divorced (likely did well out of it), came home, settled with someone else who has his own business and she raises her kids all "natural". Nice when you don't need to worry about money.
Chick left Ireland about 10 years ago to move to SE Asia. Lives ling a queen among peasants because she's white. Doesn't seem to see any issue with that.
I saw posts in the last few days from one of them and unfollowed. I've unfollowed the vast majority of people I'm friends with on Facebook.

Actually reminds me of likely the best one. Flitted through college (was super smart, like could have got 550 in the LC type smart), wants to work in acting and such nonsense. Moved away (not too far), over the years has posted looking for somewhere to crash for a while, petitions about drama people not being paid enough in the new country she's in. Oh and the kicker, literally went to clown college at one point.

It's mostly people who either don't want to grow up or never need to.

Its always the "system " that is wrong

Snickers Man

Interesting article in the New Statesman (no rabid right-wing publication that!!) about gender neutral language and how it might be "Exclusionary" to a greater number of people than it is trying to "Include".

The author is a pregnant woman and dealing with maternity services in an era of covid.

Excerpt: "the Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust became the first in the UK to officially adopt gender-inclusive language in its perinatal services. This means avoiding feminine pronouns where applicable, referring to the “birthing person” (formerly known as “mother”), and removing the word “breast”, recommending instead the terms “chest-feeding” and “human milk”.

She continues:
"No one bothered to ask my husband if he might be the “birthing person” when he showed up at our maternity unit, and rightly so.

After all, the number of people who will benefit from this move is truly tiny: specifically, we are concerned here with trans or non-binary people, who are biologically female, and able to bear a child following any surgical or hormonal interventions undergone as part of sex reassignment, and decide to do so, and care about squabbles over vocabulary. "
(Italics are as they appear in the original publication)

Here's the one that made my goggle. In the following case the emphasis is mine.
".. rather than ask that “women” present themselves for a smear test, NHS letters and poster campaigns might use gender-neutral language and direct the appeal instead to “individuals with a cervix”, the phrase used by the American Cancer Society. This kind of language is feted as “more inclusive”, but the question we should be asking is, inclusive of whom?"

If I'd read in the Daily Mail or Sun that the American Cancer Society now calls women "people with a cervix" I would not have believed it. But as it is written in the New Statesman........

Crazy stuff. Anyone offended by being called a woman, even if they don't want to be one, should have a look at themselves.

PS You can read the entire NS article here although it is behind a partial paywall, for which you will need to register.

stefanovich

Really is this worth complicating medical matters?

Snickers Man

Rothko wrote: »

Stuff like that makes me think that some people must be living in a parallel universe or something. Seriously, wtf?

I've had a look around for this and the sources that have publicised it are the New York Post (Murdoch rag) and the Daily Mail (Shriek! Shriek! There are brown people in the neigbourhood. What's the world coming to?")

I admit, the chart looks like some loonie Social Scientist went mad with his Excel Chart Wizard to concoct some spurious rubbish about ill-defined "identity groups" but that's what loonie Social Scientists do. Has he really got any more clout than that?

I would with hold peak anger until I had a more reliable report on the extent to which this "Questionnaire" has been distributed.

Rothko

Snickers Man wrote: »

I've had a look around for this and the sources that have publicised it are the New York Post (Murdoch rag) and the Daily Mail (Shriek! Shriek! There are brown people in the neigbourhood. What's the world coming to?")

I admit, the chart looks like some loonie Social Scientist went mad with his Excel Chart Wizard to concoct some spurious rubbish about ill-defined "identity groups" but that's what loonie Social Scientists do. Has he really got any more clout than that?

I would with hold peak anger until I had a more reliable report on the extent to which this "Questionnaire" has been distributed.

I hope you're right and that he doesn't have any influence. I just don't understand people who think like that. I don't get it at all.

statesaver

Madness if it's true.

https://twitter.com/DrKarlynB/status/1362774562769879044

MisterAnarchy

Those images are racist propaganda.
Be less white .:rolleyes: