Irishman facing 25 years prison in Oz

ChikiChiki

mandrake04 wrote: »

Probably came on a Working Holiday visa, it’s only self declaration of a criminal history as it only a holiday visa. If it was a permanent visa you need a Gardaí certificate.

This is the case, the Ozzies could do with some more stringent checks. That self declaration is ridiculous. A lot of our vermin run over there. The majority of Irish there are good people but it's an easy place for the vermin to to.

mandrake04

ChikiChiki wrote: »

This is the case, the Ozzies could do with some more stringent checks. That self declaration is ridiculous. A lot of our vermin run over there. The majority of Irish there are good people but it's an easy place for the vermin to to.

Too much hassle, GDPR and all that rubbish when 99.99% of 10m visitors per year are no problem. Sure there’s two Irish guys currently on trial for kicking an old aboriginal man to death for a bit craic, afaik they didn’t have a criminal history before they came here so stringent checks wouldn’t have made a difference.

paul71

colm_mcm wrote: »

She’s a belter.

No, a skank caked in make up.

macpaccrack

mandrake04 wrote: »

Too much hassle, GDPR and all that rubbish when 99.99% of 10m visitors per year are no problem. Sure there’s two Irish guys currently on trial for kicking an old aboriginal man to death for a bit craic, afaik they didn’t have a criminal history before they came here so stringent checks wouldn’t have made a difference.

It's a strange one though. A lot of Irish are viewed by the general public in Australia as having a propensity to crime, violence and excessive drinking.

Things like not serving Irish groups, bars shutting on St.Patricks Day, extra stringent checks in Irish bars, police at a higher rate coming into known Irish drinking spots with sniffer dogs all happen.

So if your constantly treated like you're a criminal or have the potential to be violent then a lot of people even subconsciously start to act out. The Irish have a really poor reputation in Australia but I feel sometimes when you constantly categorise someone as dangerous and treat them accordingly then don't be surprised when they start to act like how you treat them

Granadino

colm_mcm wrote: »

She’s a belter.

A belter? A scumbag dollied up, but that's what scumbags love. It's all about appearance... fur coat, no knickers job...

mandrake04

macpaccrack wrote: »

It's a strange one though. A lot of Irish are viewed by the general public in Australia as having a propensity to crime, violence and excessive drinking.

Things like not serving Irish groups, bars shutting on St.Patricks Day, extra stringent checks in Irish bars, police at a higher rate coming into known Irish drinking spots with sniffer dogs all happen.

So if your constantly treated like you're a criminal or have the potential to be violent then a lot of people even subconsciously start to act out. The Irish have a really poor reputation in Australia but I feel sometimes when you constantly categorise someone as dangerous and treat them accordingly then don't be surprised when they start to act like how you treat them

ummm Intresting...15 years living here and that's not really my experience. Sure a lot of issues if you can call them that is drink related, a reputation of being violent criminals couldn't be further from the truth... excessive drinking and doing dumb shit and making a fool out of yourself maybe but not really hardened criminals.

Maybe back 10 years ago when there were a lot young Irish people escaping from the recession on working holiday visas there was one or two incidents on St Patricks days at places like cock'n'bull where there was fights broke out etc the cops came but that's about it except it hit the irish media and joe Duffy etc. They are really just kids on holiday and the same as places like Spain once they are out of the parrish they can make fools out of themselves very easily. Although most dont.

Sniffer dogs and police checking pubs is normal policing in Australia, at times when when big crowds are present its ripe picking to bring in the dogs in any pub not just those frequented by Irish people. People are not being constantly treated like criminals.

I work in Healthcare and there are lots of Irish Doctors and Nurses who all have professional registrations and any sort of criminality or use of drugs would mean possible refusal to practice, son considering that healthcare and hospital settings is one of the wider industries that most Australians will have interactions with Irish people which I expect it to be mostly positive.

80,000 Irish people in Australia no way the police is harassing them to a life of crime.

JP Liz V1

PespiChallenge wrote: »

How the hell did he get a visa to get into Australia after serving time for manslaughter in Ireland.

Yes how

Pauliedragon

macpaccrack wrote: »

It's a strange one though. A lot of Irish are viewed by the general public in Australia as having a propensity to crime, violence and excessive drinking.

Things like not serving Irish groups, bars shutting on St.Patricks Day, extra stringent checks in Irish bars, police at a higher rate coming into known Irish drinking spots with sniffer dogs all happen.

So if your constantly treated like you're a criminal or have the potential to be violent then a lot of people even subconsciously start to act out. The Irish have a really poor reputation in Australia but I feel sometimes when you constantly categorise someone as dangerous and treat them accordingly then don't be surprised when they start to act like how you treat them

I don't know what part of Australia you're in but I lived there for nearly 20 years and managed multiple pubs in Sydney. There was no ill will from the public or the cops towards irish people in fact it was the opposite in my experience. I could name 3 or 4 different cultures that are 10 times more difficult to deal with than Irish people.

Galwayguy35

macpaccrack wrote: »

It's a strange one though. A lot of Irish are viewed by the general public in Australia as having a propensity to crime, violence and excessive drinking.

Things like not serving Irish groups, bars shutting on St.Patricks Day, extra stringent checks in Irish bars, police at a higher rate coming into known Irish drinking spots with sniffer dogs all happen.

So if your constantly treated like you're a criminal or have the potential to be violent then a lot of people even subconsciously start to act out. The Irish have a really poor reputation in Australia but I feel sometimes when you constantly categorise someone as dangerous and treat them accordingly then don't be surprised when they start to act like how you treat them

Nobody subconsciously engages in scumbag behaviour or as you say yourself acts out, its a decision they have made to get in a fight or do criminal damage.

Brock Turnpike

macpaccrack wrote: »

It's a strange one though. A lot of Irish are viewed by the general public in Australia as having a propensity to crime, violence and excessive drinking.

Things like not serving Irish groups, bars shutting on St.Patricks Day, extra stringent checks in Irish bars, police at a higher rate coming into known Irish drinking spots with sniffer dogs all happen.

So if your constantly treated like you're a criminal or have the potential to be violent then a lot of people even subconsciously start to act out. The Irish have a really poor reputation in Australia but I feel sometimes when you constantly categorise someone as dangerous and treat them accordingly then don't be surprised when they start to act like how you treat them

Honestly would love to know where in Australia you have seen pubs closing on St Patrick's day. Lived there for the best part of a decade and never once heard of anything like that.

You're coming across as if looking to blame terrible behavior by people, who happen to be Irish, on others.

Pauliedragon

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Honestly would love to know where in Australia you have seen pubs closing on St Patrick's day. Lived there for the best part of a decade and never once heard of anything like that.

You're coming across as if looking to blame terrible behavior by people, who happen to be Irish, on others.

Well said. Pubs love St Patricks day over there. It puts a fair amount of cash in the till. The festival at hyde park was always great. A few dopes will always be around but try running a pub on Australia or Anzac day. Aussies are just as bad as us.

ChikiChiki

macpaccrack wrote: »

It's a strange one though. A lot of Irish are viewed by the general public in Australia as having a propensity to crime, violence and excessive drinking.

Things like not serving Irish groups, bars shutting on St.Patricks Day, extra stringent checks in Irish bars, police at a higher rate coming into known Irish drinking spots with sniffer dogs all happen.

So if your constantly treated like you're a criminal or have the potential to be violent then a lot of people even subconsciously start to act out. The Irish have a really poor reputation in Australia but I feel sometimes when you constantly categorise someone as dangerous and treat them accordingly then don't be surprised when they start to act like how you treat them

You've never been in Oz have you?

Mango Joe

Errashareesh wrote: »

But she's hot.

She reminds me of The Predator with that scary fivehead and that face.

If you saw her without makeup you'd sh1t yourself......

StackSteevens

mandrake04 wrote: »

Sure there’s two Irish guys currently on trial for kicking an old aboriginal man to death for a bit craic, afaik they didn’t have a criminal history before they came here so stringent checks wouldn’t have made a difference.

Both found not guilty of murder and/or manslaughter earlier today.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8754369/Irish-tradies-CLEARED-murdering-homeless-pensioner-booted-Sydney-pub.html

Errashareesh

Mango Joe wrote: »

She reminds me of The Predator with that scary fivehead and that face.

If you saw her without makeup you'd sh1t yourself......

The lengths people go to to convince themselves that a woman they don't fancy is unsightly.

corks finest

StackSteevens wrote: »

Both found not guilty of murder and/or manslaughter earlier today.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8754369/Irish-tradies-CLEARED-murdering-homeless-pensioner-booted-Sydney-pub.html

Scum

Joe Don Dante

corks finest wrote: »

Scum

correct, two w**kers from Malin

happyoutscan

Joe Don Dante wrote: »

correct, two w**kers from Malin

Can't say I know too much about this case, but it seems they were attacked first with a pipe?

Galwayhurl

Not sure if it's been discussed on the thread already but look at this article about another guy called Patrick Farrell:


Farrell was previously caged in Ireland for three years for the killing of 20-year-old Andrew Dolan.

Dolan died ten days after being beaten up in an unprovoked attack in Mullingar, Co Westmeath in December 2011.

Farrell also was alleged to be one of four people involved in an unrelated stabbing attack in Randwick near Sydney in August this year.


https://www.thesun.ie/news/6232606/irish-thug-pleads-guilty-one-punch-attack-australia/

So Patrick Farrell:

a. served 3 years for the death of an innocent man in Mullingar in an unprovoked attack (happened 2011)

b. knocked a man unconsicious as told in the article linked above (happened 2019)

c. was involved in the incident that is the subject of this thread (happened 2020)



Jesus wept. If he had been given a proper sentence for the the killing in Mullingar, the 2 incidents in Australia wouldn't have happened.

Why can't our lawmakers understand that?

ohnonotgmail

happyoutscan wrote: »

Can't say I know too much about this case, but it seems they were attacked first with a pipe?

fortunately for them the only person who could give evidence to the contrary is dead.

corks finest

Galwayhurl wrote: »

Not sure if it's been discussed on the thread already but look at this article about another guy called Patrick Farrell:


Farrell was previously caged in Ireland for three years for the killing of 20-year-old Andrew Dolan.

Dolan died ten days after being beaten up in an unprovoked attack in Mullingar, Co Westmeath in December 2011.

Farrell also was alleged to be one of four people involved in an unrelated stabbing attack in Randwick near Sydney in August this year.


https://www.thesun.ie/news/6232606/irish-thug-pleads-guilty-one-punch-attack-australia/

So Patrick Farrell:

a. served 3 years for the death of an innocent man in Mullingar in an unprovoked attack (happened 2011)

b. knocked a man unconsicious as told in the article linked above (happened 2019)

c. was involved in the incident that is the subject of this thread (happened 2020)



Jesus wept. If he had been given a proper sentence for the the killing in Mullingar, the 2 incidents in Australia wouldn't have happened.

Why can't our lawmakers understand that?

They've no appetite for any changes,keep the gravy train a running is their dole motto,
More money for their sidekick's in the judiciary.

Them 2 bucks need culled