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Who thinks Trump will win?

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    #4622
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    cnocbui wrote: »
    It's a fact.

    I'm not a Trump fan but what you've stated is an opinion, not a fact.


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    #4623
    km991148
    Registered Users Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I'm not a Trump fan but what you've stated is an opinion, not a fact.

    Its true - needs to be qualified - there are metrics you could use - but as a statement on its own, it is opinion..


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    #4624
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 20,090 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    So your a fan of Native Americans, me too I love a good western. You must have been delighted with all the work the Trump Administration did for Native Americans .

    Looking to resolve the high murder rate in their communities and granting them $8billion in funding in May.

    https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/trump-administration-establishes-first-cold-case-task-force-office-missing-and

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-protecting-native-american-community-combat-coronavirus/

    And now for the real story about all that: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/03/trump-mount-rushmore-347982


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    #4625
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 20,090 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I'm not a Trump fan but what you've stated is an opinion, not a fact.

    I think Trump's open exhortations to violence, to his right wing good old boys, to overthrow a democratically elected government in Michigan, is on it's own, factual enough to validate my statement.


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    #4626
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    For no other reason than just by looking at the people who are anti-Trump.........I would vote Trump


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    #4627
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,579 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    sonofenoch wrote:
    For no other reason than just by looking at the people who are anti-Trump.........I would vote Trump


    What do you mean?


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    #4628
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,716 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    For no other reason than just by looking at the people who are anti-Trump.........I would vote Trump

    That's exactly why we think people vote for him.

    It is a motivation fueled by hatred of others, more than admiration for one.


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    #4629
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,549 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    What do you mean?

    It’s not worth asking.


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    #4630
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,597 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    For no other reason than just by looking at the people who are anti-Trump.........I would vote Trump

    So you judge people by their looks?


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    #4631
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    cnocbui wrote: »
    I think Trump's open exhortations to violence, to his right wing good old boys, to overthrow a democratically elected government in Michigan, is on it's own, factual enough to validate my statement.

    not really thats just your opinion on one incident, it does nothing to create a factual narrative as to his performance as the 45th POTUS..


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    #4632
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Trump the worst President in US history , now its hardly a fact is it.

    I do agree that Biden (2020) is the worst Democrat candidate in history .
    Biden (2016) would have been better but still probably lost .

    In some sense it is a fact. Especially in terms of the number of Republicans he's convinced to vote for a Democrat candidate.


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    #4633
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    In some sense it is a fact. Especially in terms of the number of Republicans he's convinced to vote for a Democrat candidate.

    well those 25 days went very fast, is the election over.. who won


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    #4634
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    The New York Times have uncovered more dodgy financial practices from Trump's tax returns. It looks like he funneled millions from his hotels and into his election campaign, which is illegal.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/donald-trump-taxes-2016-campaign-las-vegas-hotel-windfall-phil-ruffin-b913934.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1602262134


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    #4635
    Tell me how
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    The New York Times have uncovered more dodgy financial practices from Trump's tax returns. It looks like he funneled millions from his hotels and into his election campaign, which is illegal.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/donald-trump-taxes-2016-campaign-las-vegas-hotel-windfall-phil-ruffin-b913934.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1602262134

    I'm reading Michael Cohen's book at the moment.
    I expect that whatever we hear in the news, is the tip of the iceberg.


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    #4636
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    The New York Times have uncovered more dodgy financial practices from Trump's tax returns. It looks like he funneled millions from his hotels and into his election campaign, which is illegal.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/donald-trump-taxes-2016-campaign-las-vegas-hotel-windfall-phil-ruffin-b913934.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1602262134

    do you mean the election he won in 2016.. is that the campaign your talking about, the one he beat Hilary Clinton in for US President, is that the one , the one he was the rank outsider and defeated everyone mainstream news , fake news, pollsters and The Democrat Party.. that one ..

    If thats the one your talking about I must have a read of the article


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    #4637
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I'm reading Michael Cohen's book at the moment.
    I expect that whatever we hear in the news, is the tip of the iceberg.

    I guess its not enough for anti-Trumpers to have wasted their dreams and hopes and countless hours of their lives on Michael Avenatti, Stormy Daniels , Mueller nothing burgers, they also want to give money to a NY lawyer and fund his legal expenses. Its a free'ish country I guess.


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    #4638
    Hand in Your Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Hand in Your Pants


    If there was anything really dodgy on Trump they would have dug it up the first time around. All of the money and brainpower being thrown at discrediting Trump during the last election and all they could dig up was some ugly locker room talk. With all of the Anthony Weiners doing the rounds on the democrat circuit, Americans will see through the attempts to defame Trump.


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    #4639
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    do you mean the election he won in 2016.. is that the campaign your talking about, the one he beat Hilary Clinton in for US President, is that the one , the one he was the rank outsider and defeated everyone mainstream news , fake news, pollsters and The Democrat Party.. that one ..

    If thats the one your talking about I must have a read of the article

    You start every post asking me a question then answering it to your own satisfaction. You don't even need to reply to my posts to do that.


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    #4640
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I'm reading Michael Cohen's book at the moment.
    I expect that whatever we hear in the news, is the tip of the iceberg.

    Yes I've seen the segments where he talks about financial transactions that Trump was extremely worried about. Interesting stuff. I'm guessing the Times are holding out on far bigger stories than they're letting on.


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    #4641
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    What do you mean?

    Lots of loony rich kids.

    Pity Trump is so divisive, he could have won by a landslide with a little effort.


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    #4642
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,579 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Danzy wrote:
    Lots of loony rich kids.


    All of them?


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    #4643
    riddles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭riddles


    Trump is probably America’s most despicable president on a human level. If you measure modern presidents in terms of outcomes then Clinton ranks as the most ruinous. The China trade deal and financial deregulation were a disaster. The impact of both are the reason we are in the precarious situation we are in with the global ponsi asset bubble economy and China got its foothold at the top table.

    Although he has at least apologised recently, his treatment of Monica Lewinsky was terrible. And it is not a stretch to suggest his almost full time efforts to deal with his impeachment almost certainly influenced the prioritisation of the US response to Al Qaeda. He also admitted in a speech hours before the 911 attack that he could “have got Bin Laden”.

    As much as it would have been great to have a female president. There was justice at least that kept that two bit huckster Bill out of the place.

    Trump is a terrible person in every facet but he has served at least a very real purpose. He is a representation of the cynical business leaders that are manipulating the rules of law to get ever more wealthy. He represents the challenge women’s rights still need to overcome. He also exposed the level of hate that existed in America and has bubbled to boiling with the advent of social media.

    Ironically media proposition supported by ill informed celebrities that “Trump is everything that is wrong with the country”, has at least brought things to a point where they can be addressed. Unfortunately I don’t expect Biden has vision, energy or enthusiasm to address these things.

    The outcomes of the Clinton presidency will need fixing first.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/grifters-in-chief-1477610771


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    #4644
    MadYaker
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    You’d have a hard job convincing me that the US would be in a worse place right now had ol bill and hillary got back in instead of trump.


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    #4645
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,224 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    MadYaker wrote: »
    You’d have a hard job convincing me that the US would be in a worse place right now had ol bill and hillary got back in instead of trump.

    Latest gallop polls says 56% of voters feel wealthier now than they did last election time...

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314402920474042371?s=20


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    #4646
    Igotadose
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    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Latest gallop polls says 56% of voters feel wealthier now than they did last election time...

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314402920474042371?s=20

    Make it easier to pay for funeral expenses then, eh?


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    #4647
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,549 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Latest gallop polls says 56% of voters feel wealthier now than they did last election time...

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314402920474042371?s=20

    Trump: "Are you guys sure you don't want to rethink the question?"


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    #4648
    km991148
    Registered Users Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    MadYaker wrote: »
    You’d have a hard job convincing me that the US would be in a worse place right now had ol bill and hillary got back in instead of trump.

    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Latest gallop polls says 56% of voters feel wealthier now than they did last election time...


    Maybe that's right at the heart of the problem.. feeling wealthier and actually better off (either financially or as a society or any other measure of better) are very different things.


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    #4649
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I'm reading Michael Cohen's book at the moment.
    I expect that whatever we hear in the news, is the tip of the iceberg.

    Slightly Off topic I know but would you recommend ??? I’ve read others that were fascinating - I think it would be a page turner!!


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    #4650
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,224 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Make it easier to pay for funeral expenses then, eh?

    Keep up the good work...your playing a blinder:)

    Trump's unhinged critics are now just doing his job for him

    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/trumps-unhinged-critics-are-now-just-doing-his-job-for-him-39602953.html


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    #4651
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,224 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    km991148 wrote: »
    Maybe that's right at the heart of the problem.. feeling wealthier and actually better off (either financially or as a society or any other measure of better) are very different things.

    I voted FG as they put more money in my pocket, it was that simple. I'd assume that 56% will do the same.


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