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Who thinks Trump will win?

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    #4892
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Trump is going to increase his black vote and his hispanic vote.

    Yeah, can see him telling people that he was going to protect the suburbs by not allowing low income housing there would really have appealed to the demographics who commonly live in low income housing.


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    #4893
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Tell me how wrote: »
    No I didn't.

    Yes you did:
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Are all ancestors of the Confederates (who would like those statues to remain) bad people?
    Tell me how wrote: »
    No.

    The implication of admitting that such people are not all bad people is admitting they are (or at least can be) fine people, naturally. Not sure why you are running from this now. Are you really going to argue that saying someone is not bad is not the same as saying they are fine?


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    #4894
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Yes you did:





    The implication of saying that such people are not all bad people is admitting they are fine people, naturally. Not sure why you are running from this now. Are you really going to argue that saying someone is not bad is not the same as saying they are fine?

    Nope.

    Not even close.


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    #4895
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Yeah, can see him telling people that he was going to protect the suburbs by not allowing low income housing there would really have appealed to the demographics who commonly live in low income housing.

    Typical racist attitude there...plenty of blacks live in the suburbs...plenty of non black live in social accommodation.


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    #4896
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    TheRepentent wrote: »
    Educated guess...non whites supporting racist a$$holes would be the exception not the rule.

    Which racists have I supported?

    Oh don't tell me, Donald Trump - right? :rolleyes:


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    #4897
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    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Typical racist attitude there...plenty of blacks live in the suburbs...plenty of non black live in social accommodation.

    You must have missed the word 'commonly' in my post.

    Check out the concept of redlining and its impact over decades.


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    #4898
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Tell me how wrote: »
    You must have missed the word 'commonly' in my post.

    Check out the concept of redlining and its impact over decades.

    And this is Trumps fault right?

    I didn't miss anything in what you said...you were loud and clear.


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    #4899
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Nope. Not even close.

    That is what you said. They are your words. You admitted that such people were not all bad and that is all that Donald Trump did.

    YOU may not want to admit that such people were there that day, and push the notion that everyone there protesting against the statues removal were Nazis, but that doesn't make it so.

    Now if you want to take back that you said, about how not all people in confederate groups are bad, do so, but don't pretend you didn't say it.


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    #4900
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    That is what you said. They are your words. You admitted that such people were not all bad and that is all that Donald Trump did.

    YOU may not want to admit that such people were there that day, and push the notion that everyone there protesting against the statues removal were Nazis, but that doesn't make it so.

    Now if you want to take back that you said, about how not all people in confederate groups are bad, do so, but don't pretend you didn't say it.

    As you said, I, as others, believe that those at Charlottesville were supporting the ideals of white supremacy under the guise of resisting statues removal.

    An argument used because it was suggested by the President of the US.


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    #4901
    TheRepentent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Which racists have I supported?

    Oh don't tell me, Donald Trump - right? :rolleyes:
    President Turd and that w@nkstain that set up EDl....whats his name?

    Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!

    http://tinyurl.com/2ksb4ejk


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

    https://www.btselem.org/



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    #4902
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Ah yes, I remember you from the TR thread not being able to back up your accusations there either.

    Welcome.


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    #4903
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Tell me how wrote: »
    As you said, I, as others, believe that those at Charlottesville were supporting the ideals of white supremacy under the guise of resisting statues removal.

    ... being the operative word but it mattes not what you believe, it matters what is logical and it is not logical that everyone at that protest who was against the statues being removed was also a Nazi. You may as well be saying the Dukes of Hazzard was a a racist show because the car was called the General Lee and had a Confederate Flag on the roof.

    Amazes me how you can admit that some in confederate groups are decent/good/fine/ not bad people but struggle with the fact they may have been there that day. Truth is that you know fine well that there was decent people there who, whilst they didn't want statues removed, don't/didn't support or share the views of Neo-Nazis.


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    #4904
    TheRepentent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Ah yes, I remember you from the TR thread not being able to back up your accusations there either.

    Welcome.
    lulz:rolleyes: We know what you are Pete :o You made a stage exit left on that thread...or should I say goose stepped off the stage.


    Still having a senior moment here...whats his name again ?

    Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!

    http://tinyurl.com/2ksb4ejk


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

    https://www.btselem.org/



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    #4905
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Suggesting users like me are racist or Nazis just undermines you and those like you who throw around such accusations like confetti but sure keep crying wolf, it only strengthens my contention, not yours.


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    #4906
    TheRepentent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Suggesting users like me are racist or Nazis just undermines you and those like you who throw around such accusations like confetti but sure keep crying wolf, it only strengthens my contention, not yours.
    blah blah blah:rolleyes:


    You're fooling no one. And again I'll ask you who founded the EDL and why do you support him ?

    Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!

    http://tinyurl.com/2ksb4ejk


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

    https://www.btselem.org/



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    #4907
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    ... being the operative word but it mattes not what you believe, it matters what is logical and it is not logical that everyone at that protest who was against the statues being removed was also a Nazi. You may as well be saying the Dukes of Hazzard was a a racist show because the car was called the General Lee and had a Confederate Flag on the roof.

    Amazes me how you can admit that some in confederate groups are decent/good/fine/ not bad people but struggle with the fact they may have been there that day. Truth is that you know fine well that there was decent people there who, whilst they didn't want statues removed, don't/didn't support or share the views of Neo-Nazis.

    I never said that some in confederate groups are decent/good/fine. Stop suggesting I did.

    I'm suggesting that everyone who went to participate in a 'Unite the right rally' organised by a neo-Nazi, white supremacist and anti-semitic conspiracy theorist possesses at least some white supremacist, anti-semitic conspiracy theory views.


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    #4908
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Came across this interesting tidbit - early voting in Democratic counties that include Memphis and Nashville, Tennessee is running at 226% and 200% compared to 2016. Obviously TN is not in play for the presidential election, but it does show that Democrats are energised to go vote.


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    #4909
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
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    It's funny that this poll (on a lefty snowflake forum:P), is actually forecasting the likely result of this election more accurately than many other mainstream polls.

    Although the confidence in a Trump win, does not appear to be well represented in the balance of comments. Much more people think Trump will win. But more of the people who don't, like to tell everyone about it... interesting! :)


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    #4910
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Yawn. Been down this road a million times with you and others.

    There were multiple groups there from Confederate groups, Civic Nationalist groups and locals and of course alt-right groups. They were not all Neo-Nazis no more than the other side were all Antifa.

    Can you please name some actual people. You've basically offered the vaguest response. You neither name a group or person.


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    #4911
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    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    It's funny that this poll (on a lefty snowflake forum:P), is actually forecasting the likely result of this election more accurately than many other mainstream polls.

    Although the confidence in a Trump win, does not appear to be well represented in the balance of comments. Much more people think Trump will win. But more of the people who don't, like to tell everyone about it... interesting! :)

    If Boards polls were to be trusted, Peter Casey would be living in Áras an Uachtaráin right now.

    He's not, they're not.


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    #4912
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
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    Tell me how wrote: »
    If Boards polls were to be trusted, Peter Casey would be living in Áras an Uachtaráin right now.

    He's not, they're not.

    It also possibly indicates something else too... Trump has quite a lot of closet fans in this country. (Something I've always suspected)

    Just like over in the US, they don't all run around with MAGA hats on shouting it from the rooftops!

    Some revolutions are silent and hidden! ;)


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    #4913
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    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    It also possibly indicates something else too... Trump has quite a lot of closet fans in this country. (Something I've always suspected)

    Just like over in the US, they don't all run around with MAGA hats on shouting it from the rooftops!

    Some revolutions are silent and hidden! ;)

    Hardly a revolution when hoping to be returned as President is it?

    I suspect many of the votes for Trump on this poll have come from accounts which are sadly no longer with us.


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    #4914
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    hirondelle wrote: »
    Are you saying that all her questions are invalidated then?

    No. Just be aware of the bias while watching.


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    #4915
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Hardly a revolution when hoping to be returned as President is it?

    I suspect many of the votes for Trump on this poll have come from accounts which are sadly no longer with us.

    That is the democrat's voters you are thinking of and the reason Trump does not trust mail in voting.


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    #4916
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    It's funny that this poll (on a lefty snowflake forum:P), is actually forecasting the likely result of this election more accurately than many other mainstream polls.

    Probably due to the reregs haha


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    #4917
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    TheRepentent wrote: »
    You're fooling no one. And again I'll ask you who founded the EDL and why do you support him ?

    Fooling no one about what? Spit it out and stop being so afraid to say what you think.

    As for saying I "support" TR, I don't - I just bumped heads with some lefties who were lying about him is all. Sure if I was such a big fan I'd hardly of said the following about him:
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Anyone that sucker punches someone is a cowardly cunt, don't care what they've done.

    The way the left lie about both men is quite similar though. It's almost as if they are not as bad as they wish they were and so are left with no option given they want so badly for society to hate them as much as they so obviously do. Well, maybe if they were the bogey men you'd all have us believe them to be, you'd wouldn't have to resort to lying about them all the time claiming they have done and said things which they have not.


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    #4918
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I never said that some in confederate groups are decent/good/fine. Stop suggesting I did.

    I'm suggesting that everyone who went to participate in a 'Unite the right rally' organised by a neo-Nazi, white supremacist and anti-semitic conspiracy theorist possesses at least some white supremacist, anti-semitic conspiracy theory views.

    Not outright no - but you did by implication, can't understand how you don't get that.

    You conceded that not all those who had family that were Confederates are bad people and given these are the very people who largely make up confederate groups, then you are thereby effectively admitting that confederate groups could have members who are fine people. Why run from this?

    Look, yes or no - do you think there could be fine people in confederate groups?


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    #4919
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Look, yes or no - do you think there could be fine people in confederate groups?


    The Confederates were pro-slavery so no.


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    #4920
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users Posts: 895 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    circular flexing wrote: »
    The Confederates were pro-slavery so no.

    The world is not that simple.


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    #4921
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    The world is not that simple.


    Of course not. But the main reason for the existence of the Confederacy was to protect slavery. If you join a group that is pro-Confederacy then you are by implication pro-slavery and you cannot be a fine person if you support slavery.


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