What will history say about the world's reaction to Covid19?

drunkmonkey

TonyMaloney wrote: »

yes, that's exactly what he is if he's writing articles for Russia Today

Does it not strike you as odd were not using evidence to base our laws on.
A business can be shut down for someone standing up instead of sitting down. You really believe laws like that will reduce cases by any meaningful way. I'd love to see the real world science that was based on, yet you accept, propaganda works.

I don't know about history but I will remember it with anger, as we lost our mum (not because she contracted covid) but because the stress of it while recovering in a convalescence ward and been without contact from her family for months destroyed her emotionally I think.

This led to a massive stroke, and her last few days was her looking at us in masks and her struggling to say something to us which we couldn't understand, and that will haunt me for the rest of my days.

Thats my memory of it, what was mam trying to tell us.

I hope the government and governments learn from this and never go to the lengths of restrictions that we previously endured.

drunkmonkey

Criminal Jack, absolutely horrible what they put people through. Heart goes out to you, it'll get easier but will take time. That rage isn't going to subside in a hurry and I don't blame you.
If your going through hell keep going, only advice I can give, been there done that.

weldoninhio

froog wrote: »

I also wonder where all these outraged people were when we first locked down, cause as i recall the lockdown was widely supported by the public.

The point being its fine being a bunch of captain hindsights now, but when we knew f all about this thing other than the horrific scenes in china and italy, everyone agreed the lockdown was the right (and only) thing we could do.

The first lockdown was done with the explanation of “flatten the curve”. The curve flattened out months ago, we are still being nanny-stated. The rest of Europe is getting back to business and we’re still faffing about, talking about new lockdowns etc.

MadYaker

People will always have opinions but objectively speaking this pandemic was curbed and suppressed to a greater extent than any in history. It’ll be hard to compare to other pandemics as they only seem to happen once a century so there isn’t loads of data.

circadian

I wonder if we will continue down the path of idiocracy and any valuable lessons or knowledge of this time will be lost.

Hopefully not, and it will be remembered as a time of great hardship, and remembered with such a volume of information that future pandemics can be handled more effectively.

This time could be remembered for the significant number of dumbasses believing anything they find on Facebook or YouTube and not realising that the algorithms will continue to cater to what it thinks they want.

growleaves

Wallander wrote: »

What worries me is I think societies are developing an obsession for the moment as we get avalanched with news on social media etc. Brexit was everywhere and everything for a few years and then Covid became everything and everywhere. Both historically important things, but gearing everything to Covid and infection rates to the point it seemingly becomes an international competition to have the smallest second wave is too much.

I saw a parallel in the Netflix documentary on Cuba. In 1969 the Cuban government targeted getting a world record sugar cane harvest of 10 million tonnes. It was meant to show national might and advance them economically but their propaganda machine went out of control and suddenly everything and everyone in the country was geared towards this target. All the schools and offices closed so every able man and child could go out and help with the harvest. In the end they got to 9 million tonnes and collapsed their economy by neglecting everything non-sugar related.

Monomania.

trixi001

History will not look favourably on the worlds reaction to a relatively minor virus.

I can understand governments and people panicking at the start when we looked at the horror stories coming out of China and Italy, and the aim to flatten the curve.

The curve has been flattened so we shouldn't have restrictions now...at least not to the level we do. The world needs to continue - Humans are social by nature, so we need to socialise on the real world again.

As more and more became known about Covid, its not as dangerous as initial predictions suggested, the governments should not be afraid to say they were wrong....lift the restrictions now.

It is crazy that some industries have been closed for 6 months, many never to re-open unfortunately.

There was never joint up thinking about Covid - it became the obsession, deaths from cancer, suicide etc, don't matter anymore.
Food Hygiene doesn't matter anymore - any pub can serve food.
The Economy doesn't matter any more.

There needed to be a proper joint government response, that considered more than just covid - a joint board, that was willing and able to look at everything.

suicide_circus

Very hard to know. I think large swathes of the population will have PTSD due to the relentless Project Fear being piped into our homes.

Wanderer78

suicide_circus wrote:

Very hard to know. I think large swathes of the population will have PTSD due to the relentless Project Fear being piped into our homes.

There's no project fear, our governments are just trying to do their job of protecting us. History will probably look at all our paranoia, and say idiots, it was a bloody pandemic, of course you have to be extremely careful with it

suicide_circus

When i say project fear, i'm not saying there is no reason to be fearful. I'm saying the relentless nature of it will have long term psychological impact on many.

Alf Veedersane

nthclare wrote: »

Well the fact that people were undermined and not trusted to behave themselves and adhere to the suggestions is a big factor.

To be fair, there are plenty of people who couldn't be trusted to not adhere to guidance.

Tell me how

Depends on just when that history is written.

I expect that it will focus as much on the societal reactions there was to it, how some governments showed their apathy for their electorate in adopting strategies which were always likely to result in excessive deaths, how it was Politicised by the holder of the most powerful office in the world who only ended up showing his own ineptitude in dealing with it, how the efficacy of restrictions were undermined with the narrative that that meant the restrictions weren't needed in the first place.

They will probably go on to say that it didn't bode well for asking people to listen to the science in terms of climate action when during the same summer we saw Iowa lost a third of its crops from a hurricane, there were torrential floods, in August, in Clifden, record temperatures worldwide and Canadas last intact ice shelf collapsed while people became epidemiologists and health strategists overnight and suggested to those qualified or working in such roles didn't have a clue what they are on about.

They might even say that this biggest impact of Covid in 2020 was that when a more deadly virus emerged some years later, that the sense amongst many that they had over reacted in 2020 meant that implementing restrictions was much more difficult and ultimately meant that there was a greater impact than there should have been.

But really, who knows.

Oranage2

The history books will say corona virus originated in Wuhan, it quickly spread across the world, some countries had a lockdown others had no restrictions. The death waves ended in 2024 after the virus mutated.

More locally it will say that whilst other countries had a lockdown and the people had no social welfare or a source of income, Irish people were paid 350 euro a week and even then they moaned everyday about wearing masks and not being able to go to pubs.

ShineOn7

The history books:

"And looking at Ireland's reaction to Covid, a strong trait of the Irish was also their downfall"