Leinster v Ulster Pro14 Final Sept 12th 7.35pm Build Up

Rigor Mortis

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

The fact that TG4 are showing this game and not RTE shows that no one is taking it seriously.

Or maybe its the fact that TG4 hold the rights to broadcast it and RTE don't !

mfceiling

Second string Ulster side but should be more than enough to absolutely destroy that rabble that Leinster have selected.

Ulster by 60.

Dwarf.Shortage

Deleted User wrote: »

Or maybe its the fact that TG4 hold the rights to broadcast it and RTE don't !

You're not the most observant

Squidgy Black

Dwarf.Shortage wrote: »

You're not the most observant

Jesus you've a bit of a short temper.....

Clegg

I watched Murray Kinsella's and Sean Holley's preview of tomorrow's final. They threw out some very interesting stats. When Leinster get into the opposition 22 they score points 61% of the time compared to Ulsters's 22%.

And when Leinster are defending in their 22 they stop trys being scored 78% of the time compared to Ulster's 37%.

On defence in general they highlighted how selective Leinster are in commuting players to the breakdown. 54% of the time they have 14 players on their feet in defence compared to Ulster's 32% They're very quick to tackle, get back on their feet and fold around in defence. They'd rather have a defensive line spread across the field than compete for a ball on the deck. Ulster are the opposite.

On that evidence you'd think Leinster should win this game. They've a tighter defence and a more efficient attack. But if you look at the penalty stats since the restart Leinster have conceded 12 more than Ulster. They're finding it especially tricky to not infringe at the ruck on their own attacking ball. 14 of their penalties conceded since the restart have come when they were in attacking positions. Haven't adapted at all well to the new interpretations. If Ulster can punch a hole in Leinster's defence and keep their discipline at the breakdown they've a great chance at winning.

Buer

Clegg wrote: »

On defence in general they highlighted how selective Leinster are in commuting players to the breakdown.

My understanding is this occurs when a ruck is so under resourced, you could drive a bus through it.

Some Yoke

Clegg wrote: »

I watched Murray Kinsella's and Sean Holley's preview of tomorrow's final. They threw out some very interesting stats. When Leinster get into the opposition 22 they score points 61% of the time compared to Ulsters's 22%.

And when Leinster are defending in their 22 they stop trys being scored 78% of the time compared to Ulster's 37%.
On defence in general they highlighted how selective Leinster are in commuting players to the breakdown. 54% of the time they have 14 players on their feet in defence compared to Ulster's 32% They're very quick to tackle, get back on their feet and fold around in defence. They'd rather have a defensive line spread across the field than compete for a ball on the deck. Ulster are the opposite.

On that evidence you'd think Leinster should win this game. They've a tighter defence and a more efficient attack. But if you look at the penalty stats since the restart Leinster have conceded 12 more than Ulster. They're finding it especially tricky to not infringe at the ruck on their own attacking ball. 14 of their penalties conceded since the restart have come when they were in attacking positions. Haven't adapted at all well to the new interpretations. If Ulster can punch a hole in Leinster's defence and keep their discipline at the breakdown they've a great chance at winning.

But with their best goal kickers on the bench are they potentially missing a trick to capitalise on this?

Paul Smeenus

Game day.

Ulster supporters 101: it's the hope that kills you.

SUFTUM

jacothelad

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Game day.

Ulster supporters 101: it's the hope that kills you.

SUFTUM

It used to be the 'hopeless' players and coaches we signed that killed the team....:D


I now don't expect anything, just hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Buer

Beautiful, bright day in Dublin. Bit blustery. Perfect conditions for attacking rugby and keeping it in hand.

VANG1

Great to see starting xv all Irish qualified and all 23 except Fardy.

salmocab

VANG1 wrote: »

Great to see starting xv all Irish qualified and all 23 except Fardy.

Lowe not quite yet I think.

The Lost Sheep

salmocab wrote: »

Lowe not quite yet I think.

Not qualified until November

PTH2009

Leinster by 20

ionadnapokot

Ive a feeling Ulster are going to give this a good go.
Like last years 1/4 final.

Guessing that Ulster are 100% focused on this week & Leinster are 100% focused on European Cup.

21 v 18 again!

Larbre34

Leinster 32 - 13 Ulster

Buer

One score game in Leinster's favour. Have a feeling there's gonna be a moment of magic from the Ulster back three at some point to score a try.

Clegg

Ryan has put on some size.

He's massive.

StevenToast

Oh liam toland is on commentary for eir sport...

Thank god for TG4...

mfceiling

Toner just standing in the offensive line. Blocking?

mfceiling

HUME!!

Get in.

crisco10

Lowe done fairly easily there

Squidgy Black

That was shocking stuff from Lowe.

The Lost Sheep

Great start for Ulster
Lowe did very poor there

mangobob

Brilliant try.

I have a bad feeling about this.

mangobob

Just a litany of sloppiness from Leinster. Don't look focused at all.

mfceiling

Lowry not calling the mark.

crisco10

Lots of sloppiness so far from Leinster

thomond2006

What a start to this.

mfceiling

He mightn't be able to tackle but he knows where the try line is.

Squidgy Black

Hopefully that'll bring down Ulster's spirits a bit.

crisco10

Gibson park loves that pass. Good for it in most games

A-Train

Much better play from Leinster

Clegg

The phases leading up to that try were Leinster's best since the restart

Dave_The_Sheep

Clegg wrote: »

The phases leading up to that try were Leinster's best since the restart

Indeed, real sense of relentless inevitability about that.

mangobob

Great kick.

ScrubsfanChris

Who's this ko-etzai Toland keeps talking about?

:rolleyes:

Buer

Clegg wrote: »

The phases leading up to that try were Leinster's best since the restart

Absolutely robotic inevitability about that passage.

Ulster are here to play though. They showed great defence at times in the first half against Edinburgh. They're let down by individual errors. But that was just a relentless march from Leinster.

Bench will have a say.

mfceiling

Can never understand why Ireland never use those little dinks in behind.

Lol MILES forward

Squidgy Black

Mathewson's box kicks are an absolute nightmare for our back three, every single one has been perfect so far in terms of contestability

A-Train

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Lol MILES forward

I was wondering was I the only one to see that

Buer

Ulster had the overlap if Coetzee had passed. Would have been through the hands for a walk in.

Clegg

Very impressive from Ulster. Leinster s defence is generally excellent if you give them.a split second to set. But the offloads keep us retreating and bit able to make a proper line.

Pelezico

What's with the weird language for commentary?

crisco10

Henshaw has to smash mccloskey there and he did. Walk in try otherwise.

Ulster attack looking good. So much quick ball.

mfceiling

Good game so far.

Buer

Huge hit from Kelleher to force that penalty.

Mathewson gives Ulster a dimension they haven't had since Pienaar in his pomp. He's looking tired already though. Almost 35 and bugger all rugby in 2020 is showing.

crisco10

3 out of 4 or 5 line outs for Leinster have been a mess

ongarite

Herring off, shoulder injury?