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UK government clamps down on Extinction Rebellion Eco Terrorist Group

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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,819 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    All their personal assets (if any) should be seized and proceeds go to the newspapers for losses incurred.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/05/bitter-battle-raging-control-extinction-rebellion-ideology/

    And ofcourse the mask slips as we can see what the groups real agenda was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    They will all be crying and wondering where it went wrong when they end up with an authoritarian government who crack down on any and all forms of protest.

    They are doing more and more to bring it on themselves and the rest of us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    These are just laws they are creeping in under this guise that can be used to stop people protesting more covid opression


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    These are just laws they are creeping in under this guise that can be used to stop people protesting more covid opression

    conspiracy theory forum is that way --->

    I however thoroughly support laws to break up protests that interfere with traffic or business.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    conspiracy theory forum is that way --->

    I however thoroughly support laws to break up protests that interfere with traffic or business.

    it's a fact


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    it's a fact

    what of the current rules do you think are oppressive ?

    if you say masks I'm done with this tangent completely....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    what of the current rules do you think are oppressive ?

    if you say masks I'm done with this tangent completely....

    Everything, literally everything. Private business can have a policy that insists on mask-wearing but the state should not be making it a requirement


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭growleaves


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/05/extinction-rebellion-facing-organised-crime-curbs/?fbclid=IwAR0GhAeO1nzRfOkdvynHEvIxoirhHIA2nHsJ_3u-JBDD0jV632EE5ASaON0

    Glad to see the UK are standing up to this radical ecofascism , Extinction Rebellion are behaving like a terrorist / organised crime organisation and hurting working peoples lives with their constant climate alarmism driven ‘activism’

    ER were/are an Establishment creation. The UK government actually declared a Climate Emergency in response to ER's call for the declaration of a Climate Emergency.

    Even apart from the ubiquitous fawning publicity ER received from world media, and the 'hands off' treatment from police in all UK cities, does the House of Commons usually take its legislative direction from newly-formed protest groups?

    Same with Antifa, who the other day used their weapons and training to outfight a group of marines. Its been reported that US government contractors who were in Syria and Iraq are members of Antifa. They are a creation of some intelligence agency.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    growleaves wrote: »
    ER were/are an Establishment creation. The UK government actually declared a Climate Emergency in response to ER's call for the declaration of a Climate Emergency.

    Even apart from the ubiquitous fawning publicity ER received from world media, and the 'hands off' treatment from police in all UK cities, does the House of Commons usually take its legislative direction from newly-formed protest groups?

    Same with Antifa, who the other day used their weapons and training to outfight a group of marines. Its been reported that US government contractors who were in Syria and Iraq are members of Antifa. They are a creation of some intelligence agency.

    I definitely believe they're an astroturf group , but I doubt its government intelligence, thats a bit conspiracyish.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭growleaves


    I definitely believe they're an astroturf group , but I doubt its government intelligence, thats a bit conspiracyish.

    Well I don't know for sure, it may be that whatever shady billionaires fund such groups also donate to and influence governments and you get a sort of parallel influence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    what of the current rules do you think are oppressive ?

    if you say masks I'm done with this tangent completely....

    I'd go with drug laws on that one.

    Anywsy - you know as well as I do that protests that don't obstruct are pointless.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,032 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    For consistency then, I assume you think the groups who blocked up the port of Dover yesterday with their anti-immigration protest should be equally sanctioned for “behaving like a terrorist / organised crime organisation and hurting working peoples lives with their constant climate immigration alarmism driven ‘activism’”, and also for interfering with traffic and business at the port.

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/05/anti-immigration-protesters-block-main-road-in-clash-with-police-13227365/


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    I'd go with drug laws on that one.

    Anywsy - you know as well as I do that protests that don't obstruct are pointless.

    corona virus drug laws ?
    or do you mean laws in general, I just wanted to suss if that poster was one of the 'masks are opression' types....sadly.....

    I think most protests are pointless anyway , for media exposure they help somewhat, but were obstructive protesting banned I wouldn't shed a tear.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    For consistency then, I assume you think the groups who blocked up the port of Dover yesterday with their anti-immigration protest should be equally sanctioned for “behaving like a terrorist / organised crime organisation and hurting working peoples lives with their constant climate immigration alarmism driven ‘activism’”, and also for interfering with traffic and business at the port.

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/05/anti-immigration-protesters-block-main-road-in-clash-with-police-13227365/

    absolutely, blocking commerce or traffic is terrible.
    I hoever do think their message that those migrants are not welcome is a sensible one and should be listened to , but its sad that they got to blocking a port to make their 'point'


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    corona virus drug laws ?
    or do you mean laws in general, I just wanted to suss if that poster was one of the 'masks are opression' types....sadly.....
    In general. Sorry - didn't think you meant specific to Corona.
    I think most protests are pointless anyway , for media exposure they help somewhat, but were obstructive protesting banned I wouldn't shed a tear.

    The current one needs to be better organized.

    Protests brought down communism back in the 89, but they didn't do it by being cooperative and staying out of the way.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    In general. Sorry - didn't think you meant specific to Corona.



    The current one needs to be better organized.

    Protests brought down communism back in the 89, but they didn't do it by being cooperative and staying out of the way.

    Correct.

    Communists didn't like it though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    All their personal assets (if any) should be seized and proceeds go to the newspapers for losses incurred.
    But sure Marxists would love to have their assets seized!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,303 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I don't know why this lot are loathed by Journal commenter types so much. They're right in that things can't go on as they are or the Earth is f*cked, even if climate change isn't real we're still commuting ecocide at the moment with the destruction of nature and polluting everything. And Governments are doing nothing about it.
    They've caused very little disruption here in Ireland. I think people just like shouting hippy at people that look different, and like to assume they're all filthy rich trustafarians with nothing better to do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Article is behind a paywall, can you copy/paste it's contents?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    RWCNT wrote: »
    Article is behind a paywall, can you copy/paste it's contents?

    another non paywalled source for similar : https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/climate-change-protests-london-extinction-rebellion-latest-coronavirus-b404407.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I don't know why this lot are loathed by Journal commenter types so much. They're right in that things can't go on as they are or the Earth is f*cked, even if climate change isn't real we're still commuting ecocide at the moment with the destruction of nature and polluting everything. And Governments are doing nothing about it.
    They've caused very little disruption here in Ireland. I think people just like shouting hippy at people that look different, and like to assume they're all filthy rich trustafarians with nothing better to do.

    Because they get in the way of the establishment.

    If you see someone you like getting killed, you don;t just stand beside them and politely ask the murderer to stop; but you have a case here where people are sideing with the murderer because the victim spilt blood on the pavement.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,330 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    For consistency then, I assume you think the groups who blocked up the port of Dover yesterday with their anti-immigration protest should be equally sanctioned for “behaving like a terrorist / organised crime organisation and hurting working peoples lives with their constant climate immigration alarmism driven ‘activism’”, and also for interfering with traffic and business at the port.

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/05/anti-immigration-protesters-block-main-road-in-clash-with-police-13227365/
    absolutely, blocking commerce or traffic is terrible.
    I hoever do think their message that those migrants are not welcome is a sensible one and should be listened to , but its sad that they got to blocking a port to make their 'point'

    Yes, you are consistent. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Melanchthon


    I don't know why this lot are loathed by Journal commenter types so much. They're right in that things can't go on as they are or the Earth is f*cked, even if climate change isn't real we're still commuting ecocide at the moment with the destruction of nature and polluting everything. And Governments are doing nothing about it.
    They've caused very little disruption here in Ireland. I think people just like shouting hippy at people that look different, and like to assume they're all filthy rich trustafarians with nothing better to do.

    It's because they are about more than just stopping climate change they have social/political goals that aren't relevant to the global warming.

    Also what they are campaigning for doesn't make sense for what they predict.

    If they truly believe that anthropogenic climate change is going to have a major impact in the next 10-15 years you would be talking about massive investment in flood defenses, environmentally hardened nuclear power stations, rejigged infrastructure and GMO crops that are drought and frost tolerant as well as pushing hard to make the UK self sustainable in relation to food, energy etc.

    Because if it's going to be as bad as they say that's what's going to be needed soon and these type of projects take a long time to build so either they don't give a sh_t about people in the UK or they don't believe their own predictions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭growleaves


    It's because they are about more than just stopping climate change they have social/political goals that aren't relevant to the global warming.

    Also what they are campaigning for doesn't make sense for what they predict.

    If they truly believe that anthropogenic climate change is going to have a major impact in the next 10-15 years you would be talking about massive investment in flood defenses, environmentally hardened nuclear power stations, rejigged infrastructure and GMO crops that are drought and frost tolerant as well as pushing hard to make the UK self sustainable in relation to food, energy etc.

    Because if it's going to be as bad as they say that's what's going to be needed soon and these type of projects take a long time to build so either they don't give a sh_t about people in the UK or they don't believe their own predictions.

    For some reason prices around coastal beachfront properties haven't taken a hit. Is it the estate agents or the buyers who are confused?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman




  • Registered Users Posts: 29,099 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    No problem with protests being loud and being paraded around with a police escort, but would draw the line at vandalism and violence.

    Not sure grafitti is in the same class as mass shootings and plane hijacking when it comes to "terrorism" though.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    No problem with protests being loud and being paraded around with a police escort, but would draw the line at vandalism and violence.

    Not sure grafitti is in the same class as mass shootings and plane hijacking when it comes to "terrorism" though.

    theyve been declared an eco terrorist group which I'd think is pretty accurate but they absolutely are violent protestors.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    theyve been declared an eco terrorist group which I'd think is pretty accurate but they absolutely are violent protestors.

    I said "terrorism" just as you wrote "terrorism" but nonetheless - who has declared graffit writers as "violent"?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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