terminator 2

Psychiatric Patrick

S.M.B. wrote: »

I believe Henricksen was Cameron's initial idea and he actually helped greenlight the movie by attending the pitch as The Terminator.

The studio then wanted Schwarzenegger to play Kyle Reese and someone like OJ Simpson or Mel Gibson to play the Terminator. Cameron hated the idea of Arnie playing Kyle Reese so went to the meeting with the sole intention of picking a fight with him so he wouldn't want the role. Cameron ended up really liking Arnie, thought he'd be perfect for the T-1000 and then had to convince him to play a bad guy with only a few lines.

Good oral history of it here.

I thought everyone wanted Arnie for the hero role and that he wanted and had to argue for being the Terminator - because of the minimal dialogue and the personality suited his "minimal acting skills" (I thought he said that or something like it himself).

ManOfMystery

I remember seeing a trailer for Terminator 2 back in 1991 when I was 13 and being blown away, the hype was unreal (despite the lack of internet then). As a rock fan, I was also into Guns and Roses so when they released "You could be mine" and the music video not only had clips from the film but Arnie himself, it escalated. I managed to sneak into a cinema viewing when the film was released and left in awe.

T1 & T2 perfectly bookend each other IMO. What T1 lacks in budget and sophistication, it makes up for in atmosphere . To this day, the slow movements of the Terminator as it moves through a busy nightclub before settling eyes on Sarah Connor remains chilling. It really did feel unstoppable.

T2 took a very different approach and was much more of a spectacle, but what a spectacle it was - perfectly marring action, sci-fi, great leads, and a truly iconic villain. What I really liked about it too was that it was of the first modern era films to cast a female in a lead action role, with Linda Hamilton famously going to great lengths to get herself into prime shape for the role.

Subsequent Terminator films have been disappointing. For the most part they've tried to mimick the fundamental story premise of the first - robot-from-future-travels-back-in-time-to-save-humanity's-saviour - but with different bells and whistles. None have ever managed the same tone, and injecting humour into a few has ruined them. Salvation is a very flawed film, but IMO it's aged well and remains the only one I really respect for trying to do something different, actually taking us into the post-apocalyptic universe of the Terminator franchise.

Psychiatric Patrick

ManOfMystery wrote: »

I remember seeing a trailer for Terminator 2 back in 1991 when I was 13 and being blown away, the hype was unreal (despite the lack of internet then). As a rock fan, I was also into Guns and Roses so when they released "You could be mine" and the music video not only had clips from the film but Arnie himself, it escalated. I managed to sneak into a cinema viewing when the film was released and left in awe.

T1 & T2 perfectly bookend each other IMO. What T1 lacks in budget and sophistication, it makes up for in atmosphere . To this day, the slow movements of the Terminator as it moves through a busy nightclub before settling eyes on Sarah Connor remains chilling. It really did feel unstoppable.

T2 took a very different approach and was much more of a spectacle, but what a spectacle it was - perfectly marring action, sci-fi, great leads, and a truly iconic villain. What I really liked about it too was that it was of the first modern era films to cast a female in a lead action role, with Linda Hamilton famously going to great lengths to get herself into prime shape for the role.

Subsequent Terminator films have been disappointing. For the most part they've tried to mimick the fundamental story premise of the first - robot-from-future-travels-back-in-time-to-save-humanity's-saviour - but with different bells and whistles. None have ever managed the same tone, and injecting humour into a few has ruined them. Salvation is a very flawed film, but IMO it's aged well and remains the only one I really respect for trying to do something different, actually taking us into the post-apocalyptic universe of the Terminator franchise.

Salavation used the right time period but had a terrible story and focused on the wrong characters. Plus I'm tired of the post-apocalypse world being a desert.

I like Rise of the Machines and Genisys but they are just T2 mixed with the plot of the TV series.

The TV series was the best sequel of the lot. Would have if that had got to tell it's full story.

Psychiatric Patrick

o1s1n wrote: »

Henrickson would have also made a great T-1000. Robert Patrick was perfect, but there's something about Henrickson that I think would really suit that role too.

Is it this?



Or perhaps this?



Or?

dan1895

Concept art from the eighties showing Lance Henricksen as the Terminator.

CatFromHue

When you think about it Henriksen would have been a better terminator. Arnie stands out, which for an infiltration unit is daft, and like Jai Courtney in Genisys just can't have that physique in a post apocalypse future where food is scarce.

larva

The Commodore 64 game for TT2 was just EPIC. I think I cleared it if I recollect

Psychiatric Patrick

CatFromHue wrote: »

When you think about it Henriksen would have been a better terminator. Arnie stands out, which for an infiltration unit is daft, and like Jai Courtney in Genisys just can't have that physique in a post apocalypse future where food is scarce.

Thanks for ruining the whole bloody thing for me, man!!!

:pac::pac:

Psychiatric Patrick

larva wrote: »

The Commodore 64 game for TT2 was just EPIC. I think I cleared it if I recollect

My sister had a Commodre 64 and I didn't know any of the games looked that good. It was "for college" but there was free games in the box. We used to take it while she was out

larva

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

My sister had a Commodre 64 and I didn't know any of the games looked that good. It was "for college" but there was free games in the box. We used to take it while she was out

Ill bet she went all "Sarah Connor" on you when she found out

Ive been looking for a you tube clip of the game where John is being chased by the T1000 in the truck, dont know why but I remember having great fun with that level lol

larva

Oh and BTW the first Terminator is the superior movie simply because of two words...Michael Biehn!

Heres Johnny

larva wrote: »

Ill bet she went all "Sarah Connor" on you when she found out

Ive been looking for a you tube clip of the game where John is being chased by the T1000 in the truck, dont know why but I remember having great fun with that level lol

I think that game was on the Amiga of that helps your search.

Edit: here it is

https://youtu.be/baxvJ-kUnvM

Psychiatric Patrick

larva wrote: »

Ill bet she went all "Sarah Connor" on you when she found out

Ive been looking for a you tube clip of the game where John is being chased by the T1000 in the truck, dont know why but I remember having great fun with that level lol

She'd rant and shout but we'd take it anyway.

She tried hiding it but was terrible at it. She must have given up at some point.

CastorTroy

larva wrote: »

The Commodore 64 game for TT2 was just EPIC. I think I cleared it if I recollect

Ha! A full playthrough video for a game that only lasts about 20 minutes. Imagine the uproar if a game was that long today.
Yet I've finished more games these days than I did back in the day of the Spectrum

larva

Id say the most memorable character of all the Terminator movies is...the Garbage man!

How he didnt get nominated for an Oscar is beyond belief?! What the hell?!

walshb

gimli2112 wrote: »

i'm a very simple type of guy
I don't get really artsy movies that intelligent people love, like that swedish director with death and chess
bill and ted's adventure 2
but I have to say I love this, I think it's a classic and survives the test of time
Cameron's a genius

This movie remains for me the greatest cinema movie experience ever...

I remember, as a young teen leaving the cinema in a daze. It was that magnificent!

There was simply nothing like it before, or since..

Truly epic movie..

I still prefer The Terminator, but T2 is just absolute magic..

pah

walshb wrote: »

This movie remains for me the greatest cinema movie experience ever...

I remember, as a young teen leaving the cinema in a daze. It was that magnificent!

There was simply nothing like it before, or since..

Truly epic movie..

I still prefer The Terminator, but T2 is just absolute magic..

As an 18 year old that's how I felt about The Matrix. I was too young to see T2 in the cinema on release although I have in recent times. First saw it when I was about 14 I'd say. Blew my mind even on 4:3 vhs

Skerries

Mad_maxx wrote: »

looks nothing like her ?

they browned her up to look hispanic

Greyfox

For me it's far better than any other action film, they simply don't make films this good anymore. As already said the film doesn't have any slow points, it's straight into the action, and action that still looks great today. Also the films story was amazing. I remember the first time I watched that scene where Sarah attempts to kill Dyson in order to save 3 billion people, it was absolutely mindblowing.

gimli2112

watching it now
no fate!!!!!
mom mom
bonding moment
bum bom bub bom bom

unhappys10

gimli2112 wrote: »

watching it now
no fate!!!!!
mom mom
bonding moment
bum bom bub bom bom

Just rewatching The Lord of the Rings Gimli

ManOfMystery

larva wrote: »

Id say the most memorable character of all the Terminator movies is...the Garbage man!

How he didnt get nominated for an Oscar is beyond belief?! What the hell?!

On that note, thought this was interesting.

Church on Tuesday

It's simply a masterpiece, when cinema had a backbone.

El Gato De Negocios

Random bump but I came across this

https://www.theringer.com/movies/2021/6/30/22555687/terminator-2-judgement-day-t2-oral-history

An oral history of T2, well worth reading.