EasyGo public chargers

JohnC.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118969348#Comment_118969348

I think the units only charge 1 car, you just get a choice of cable to use. Even if they had 2 spaces each, they still only charge 1 car each.

Black_Knight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118969489#Comment_118969489

Nope. EasyGo aren't responsible for the power on site. The site owner pays for the power (EasyGo refund them based on whatever deal they negotiate), EasyGo install and operate the charge point.

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118968953#Comment_118968953

All in use except one on a working day. I presume they are for staff and visitors, but may not be accessible out of hours. It's hard to know

zg3409

Progressive forecourt retailers are already adding Electric Vehicle Chargers onto their forecourts. Recently EasyGo have partnered with O’Mahony’s (Maxol – Centra, Mallow) and with Moroil (Texaco – Centra, Galway) to install the latest Tritium 75kW DC chargers that will add over 100km or 65 miles range to a car in as little as 15 minutes.

A major challenge for #EV drivers travelling long distances is the need to charge at some point during their journey. Drivers will typically plan their route to include places that provide access to convenient charging stations.

EasyGo can help garage forecourt owners & operators futureproof their business, attract more customers and generate extra revenue by installing electric vehicle charge points on their sites.

We are currently looking for suitable sites and locations to supply fast DC electric vehicle chargers at a 𝗭𝗘𝗥𝗢 upfront capital cost on a shared revenue basis - where electricity supply is made available for connection.

𝗥𝗲𝗮𝗱 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 👩‍💻 - https://bit.ly/3L75btf

Contact our commercial teams to find out more info...

Dublin - email: email removed to prevent soam | Tel: 01 25 444 56

Belfast - email: xxx | Tel: 028 9099 7734

#EVcharging #EVinfrastructure #electricvehicles #sustainabilty

They opened an NI office recently

Black_Knight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118972866#Comment_118972866

EasyGo are partnered with the Musgrave group, hence the Centra and SuperValu connections.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118971903#Comment_118971903

Surely the speed of the charge is down to the operator though, no?

Black_Knight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975822#Comment_118975822

Nope. EasyGo take whatever power is already on site from what I've heard. So if you pull up while centra is baking all the morning bread and cooking all those chicken fillets, you'll be load balancing against them.

The units might be capable of 75kW (if spec'd that way) but if the site doesn't have enough power that's the weakest link.

Robotfarmer

Lidl Castletroy is shown offline. Is it working?

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119037609#Comment_119037609

Any offline charger from esb or easygo will not work as they cannot authorise the payment, even if free. They are not set to free vend when offline even though this is a relatively easy thing to do and older esb units used to work with a recently used RFID card.

cannco253

email from EasyGo today

First eir and EasyGo Rapid Chargers Now Live in Carlow!

We are excited to announce that eir and EasyGo have now launched the first collection of EV Rapid chargers which are replacing eir telephone kiosks starting in Carlow.

eir, Ireland’s leading telecommunications company joined forces with EasyGo, Ireland’s largest eMobility Service Provider Network to roll-out these 50kW DC Rapid EV chargers in towns and cities across Ireland, and Carlow has proven itself to be the pioneer in adopting this program.

The chargers in County Carlow, have been installed to help Ireland’s growing number of EV drivers charge their cars on the go. These have been installed at ZERO cost to Carlow County Council, with plans in place to install 180 rapid chargers in total in a number of other counties over the next few years...

You can find the 4 new 50kW DC Rapid chargers in the following locations:

• Carlow Town - 2 in Green Lane
• Bagenalstown - Church Road
• Tullow - Tullow Street 

There are also 3 new Dual 22kW AC Destination chargers installed:

• Carlow Town - Kennedy Street and Green Bank Car Park
• Borris - Main Street

All chargers are installed at locations, some awaiting connection to the electric grid soon.

By adding these new chargers, County Carlow has become much more accessible for EV drivers. One major barrier for potential motorists making the move to electric is range anxiety, and having an infrastructure of high quality, fast and visible chargers helps overcome that anxiety, and gives people the confidence to go electric.

The Rapid chargers are Tritium’s world-first, next-generation simultaneous DC Rapid Chargers, adding up to 100km range to an Electric Vehicle and providing up to 80% of the required charge in just 30 minutes. 

The EasyGo network is used by more than 20,000 Irish EV drivers that can find, use, and pay for charging at more than 2,300 charge points nationally. You can view the cost and live status of all charging locations and start & stop charging simply on the EasyGo app.

We hope you enjoy using these new chargers to top up your car next time you are in Carlow.

Happy charging!

MichaelR

So it looks like using ESB chargers via EasyGo might be cheaper than using them directly via ESB at this time. In theory.

In practice I could not do it when I tried at M7 Junction 14:

- I don't have an EasyGO fob or card.

• Phone RFID does not seem to work, in fact it does start a charge, but neither the EasyGo nor the ESB app show the charge, and the phone can't be used to end the charge (the "card" is claimed invalid for the purpose).
• I tried the EasoGy app but could not work out which charger is which. There are 9 or more chargers at that point. The codes for them that are shown in the app, for example IE*ESB*E2030*3486, do not correspond to the codes displayed on the chargers themselves, for example C7YCD.  Attempts at guessing did not yield any results.

So how do I start a charge on an ESB charger via my EasyGo account? Apart, that is, from ordering a card.

loopymum

I was in Bantry Co Cork at the weekend & there is a new Tritum fast charger on the pier there. I had a look & it isn't active yet.

I know that by looking at it & checking the app.

Nice green ev spaces. It was Iced bothe days I passed. The second day I passed, the ice was actually parked across both spaces.

They would not have known it hadn't been commissioned yet.

Things are really improving in West cork though

innrain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068890#Comment_119068890

Honestly even with the RFID there is no guarantee it will work. They had so many issues with ecars interoperability. Plugsurfing which also has interoperability with ecars lists this ones RFID only. Hec ecars has issues with it's own chargers now knowing their status at a given time.

You can map out the connectors by checking their usage:

IE*ESB*E2066*3565 is C7YCD CHAdeMO2 (left)
IE*ESB*E2066*3564 is C7YCD CCS2 (Left)
IE*ESB*E2066*3567 is C8HL4 CHAdeMO

I was in Athy yesterday and we stopped at Clanard Court Hotel. They have a Tritium 50kW and a dual 6kW AC. Very nice setup. Great amenities charger close to the hotel entrance. Didn't really need to charge but still did it while having dinner. Left with 95% SoC and got home with 80%

Easygo updated the app. I was low in funds and added money after the charging session started. Charging didn't stopped as previously. Kudos.

slave1

eCars let you go negative on their PAYG model too to allow you finish off the charge, until you clear it you will not be able to charge again though

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119070329#Comment_119070329

I couldn't start a charge on a DC unit back in December because my account balance was less that a certain figure! €10 maybe?

I called them up assuming something was wrong on their end, but it turned out it was my fault! and the guy topped my account up there and then..

innrain

Just got an email that they are increasing their prices.

Due to the continued increases in energy costs over the past several months, please be advised that the costs for charging your electric vehicle on EasyGo owned public chargers in Ireland will be changing from Wednesday 18th May, the new price will be changing to 49c per kW, (inc. VAT).

Black_Knight

Do they follow this thread?

innrain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119072224#Comment_119072224

I believe so. The price increase it was expected though.

shanec1928

If they do can they sort there pos app out. I’ve a case open with them for the past month or so we’re the app shows I don’t have any rfid card but the website shows my rfid card.

Black_Knight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119072374#Comment_119072374

Have you tried clearing your app data?

shanec1928

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119072397#Comment_119072397

re installed several times. There support is pretty poor.

MichaelR

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119069479#Comment_119069479

Thanks, but could you please elaborate on "map out the chargers by checking their usage"? I could not decipher it from your example?

zg3409

Looks like easygo trying to put chargers in Drogheda but no agreement with council

Black_Knight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119110688#Comment_119110688

"Not everyone has an electric car, but everyone has to go to the toilet somewhere" - Louth CC

MichaelR

Question: how can I make sure the prices in my EasyGo app are up to date? (Well, apart from driving to a charger).

The price increase happened circa two weeks ago now, But when I look at the chargers I am likely to need on road trips:

• The EasyGo slow chargers at Decathlon: 0.26 EUR/Access, 0.26 EUR/kWh
• The ESB fast chargers on junction 14: 0.24+VAT/Access, 0.35+VAT/kWh ; assuming VAT at 9% this is still cheaper than the ESB app
• The EasyGo CCS charger at Tipperary Town Lidl: 0.26 EUR/Access, 0.27 EUR/kWh

Is this all true? And if it is, then to what chargers did the increase apply?

(I could not resolve my code issue but I did get the key fob and I hope that will work).

cython

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119147193#Comment_119147193

The price hike only applied to chargers owned by EasyGo, where presumably the ones you're talking about are owned by someone else, even if they are EasyGo branded. In the app, if you open a charger and click on the access instructions it should say who owns it, and you'd be surprised just how many chargers even in EasyGo's own network are owned by someone else and only operated on their behalf by EasyGo.

All the EasyGo chargers in Lidl car parks, for example, fall into this category.

Old diesel

Can all these Lidl rapid chargers be used even if you don't go in the store to shop.

Or do Lidl enforce rules to say you must shop there in order to use the chargers.

innrain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119148158#Comment_119148158

Yes. On the app it says charger accessible 24h which is not the case for the shop. using the Lidl paid charger you are already a customer. :)

MichaelR

Ah yeah, I looked in the app and the Ikea and Decathlon chargers are owned by Ikea and Decathlon!

But Ikea only has 2 and Decathlon has 10. When I was there a couple of weeks ago, the Ikea ones were occupied (by two Teslas!) and I went for Decatholon That time we did need to get something in Decathlon, but I wonder if Decathlon enforces the "Decathlon customers only" limitation, as many people would probably just be going to Ikea!

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119152018#Comment_119152018

It’s a decent walk to ikea especially if you are carrying a wardrobe. Would people park In Decathlon to go to ikea?

Black_Knight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119152101#Comment_119152101

I used decathlon units when I went to IKEA once, though I wasn't alone, so I left our IKEA haul with my wife while I got the car from decathlon. Last time I used the IKEA units themselves. Neither are sufficient enough that I could top up fully in my time in IKEA, but it's a bit of a pity the IKEA ones are 7kW, and only 2 of them.

As I left the last time, a PHEV BMW pulled up and plugged into the IKEA unit. Never started charge, just wanted the convenient parking... there was lots of alternative convenient parking.

JC 3.14159

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119152101#Comment_119152101

Yep, I've done it a few times. It's good to know that there will definitely be available, decent-ish chargers available. I've only ever seen 2 or 3 occupied out of 10 or 12 or whatever they have. For me it means I can make it back home without a second charging stop if I stay in Ikea for 2 hours or so.

I have no qualms using them whether I'm going to Decathlon or not (although I generally have bought a few bit in there too) - they are paid chargers and Decathlon are presumably getting their cut from Easygo, I view it as a separate business that Decathlon are running. The new higher Easygo rates have a pretty decent margin built in compared to business electricity prices, I don't think either party is losing money there.

The free Easygo ones in Lidl etc as something different - I only use them when I am shopping there. Lidl are paying for that electricity, it's reasonable to do some shopping there if availing of that.

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119152814#Comment_119152814

With the new rapid chargers going into Lidl you DO actually pay 26 cent per Kwh

cython

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119152101#Comment_119152101

You say that, but where Decathlon and/or its car park now exist used to simply be a further away car park for IKEA, so it's not that far in the grand scheme of things. As other posters have mentioned, it's definitely easier if there's someone else with you and the car can be brought to the cargo rather than lugging everything to Decathlon, but people must have done the equivalent at one point all the same.

MichaelR

The new EasyGo rates don't seem to affect the Decathlon chargers if the EasyGo app is to be trusted. The current rate is probably "break even" or so for Decathlon. And for me there is no difference between a 7 kWh and a 22 kWh charger (the Soul EV can only do single-phase 7 kWh AC charging from either). But I guess many people already use Decathon's chargers when Ikea's are occupied :)

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119148158#Comment_119148158

Typically lidl has no barriers to prevent entry outside of opening hours. The 50kW+ chargers are pay to use so you should be able to access and pay. In some premium city sites they have parking rules/clamping signs, but in general most 50+kW should be accessible.

Easygo also have chargers at DCU etc that are public and available 24/7.

In terms of personal security lidl can be very quiet outside of opening hours, and some are in dodgy areas so lock doors and consider not leaving car unattended. Boy racers often meet there outside of opening hours.

Red Silurian

Impressing price comparison from easygo 🤣🤣🤣

https://easygo.ie/roaming-savings/

UID0

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119215549#Comment_119215549

I was really unimpressed by the email they sent about this. At 22kWh per month, the ecars PAYG is at most €121.70 (all at >50kW stations), which is €16.78 less than easygo. They also mentioned Ionity at several points in the email and on the page with the price comparison, but at no point do they mention the price that they charge for Ionity stations (€0.26 access and €0.76/kWh).

I actually think it's the most misleading marketing I have seen in a long time. There hasn't even been an attempt to ground it in reality.

ELM327

Yes they are very economical with the truth I find. Pity

cython

As of a week's time (July 8th) the Lidl chargers operated by EasyGo will become markedly more expensive:

• Republic of Ireland:
• AC Chargers 40c per kWh
• DC Chargers 45c per kWh
• Northern Ireland:
• AC Chargers 36p per kWh
• DC Chargers 41p per kWh

In ROI that's up from free for AC (widely abused, admittedly), and 27c per kWh for DC. I assume access fees will also be introduced given it's EasyGo.

While something had to give around the AC chargers being abused, I can't help but think this will see Lidl lose customers who previously picked them over other retailers for the free AC charging, or very reasonably priced DC charging. Certainly I tended towards them over Aldi for it.

ted1

AC charging at a supermarket just doesn’t appeal to me. Like it’s generally a local lifl people go to.

ddarcy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276003#Comment_119276003

Unfortunately had to happen. Not being too mean and doesn’t apply to all but the biggest entitled See you next Tuesdays I’ve seen are E car drivers around something free or was free. Still doesn’t stop people from plugging in and leaving for days though ( seen this a few times at lidls). From my experience e car drivers are way worse than ice drivers.

cython

I think it's been done to death here about AC charging at Lidl, but if I'm going to find myself in there for a spell doing a large shop, being neutral or up on charge at no extra cost by the time I get home is a nice perk, nothing more, nothing less. Had I a car capable of 22 kW charging then it'd be all the sweeter, obviously, but I don't.

At 40c/kWh, on the other hand, I can see the AC chargers ending up grossly underutilised from next weekend onwards though, it's more expensive than the same service from eCars after all, and vastly more expensive than home charging, and as you say people are generally visiting them as a local trip, not really needing to charge there.

cython

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276118#Comment_119276118

Unfortunately had to happen. Not being too mean and doesn’t apply to all but the biggest entitled See you next Tuesdays I’ve seen are E car drivers around something free or was free. 

Oh, I'd agree with a lot of this. I've regularly plugged in while getting some shopping and the other connector on the charger is plugged into another BEV with 40+ kWh and counting taken on. Given the cars involved, and that the units ticked up at a similar rate to my own (car still there when I was leaving), that means the car was there for 4 hours minimum. Or another instance where a 221 Ioniq (not 5) seemed to have the same taken in when I started and when I left, suggesting it was well full and the owner had abandoned it there who-knows-how-long prior to that.

I think the fairest way of working chargers as an "incentive" to shop (if that is the aim, which it seemed to be up to now) would be if they could operate it somewhat like parking validation, where spending X in the shop gets you up to the value/duration of a reasonable (AC - 30 mins of DC could deliver a lot, after all) charging session waived.

ddarcy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276194#Comment_119276194

Totally agree. Tesco in some spots gives you 2 hours parking free when you spend 30 euro (maybe more now, been a while). Maybe spend 30 euro and get an hours charging free. But would need integration in the a add pp to scan the code etc .

ive literally seen tourists plug in on a Friday night drink the whole weekend and unplug on Monday morning. Quite annoying

innrain

I personally welcome this. They can gauge the demand which now would be genuine. Also they can do a section on their app where they can give some points/vouchers towards the charging if they want to reward their customers.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119215896#Comment_119215896

I was very impressed that somebody in easygo's marketing dept had the balls to put those calculations together, gave me a good laugh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276003#Comment_119276003

I mainly use the DC chargers at my local, which will soon be 45c per kWh... My home rate is 22c so 27c/unit to guarantee a decently charged battery in the morning, while doing the shopping was well worth it in my books. Now I'll be shopping in Aldi

society4

Roughly how much would it cost if you charged for 45 mins at a lidl charger with an onboard charger of 6.6kw?

Comer1

6.6x.75x.4=1.98

innrain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276385#Comment_119276385

6.6kW*.75h*40c=198c => 2quid